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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:DSCF0000 (74).JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Eddy1992 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic B (talk) 00:30, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:17, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 17:19, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:DSCF0000 (75).JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Eddy1992 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic B (talk) 00:30, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I really want to known what this and File:DSCF0000 (74).JPG were intended to be used for. ----DanTD (talk) 16:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: moved to Commons. All of the Stoneygate Pumping Station photos are now located on Commons in the category Stoneygate Pumping Station. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:56, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Car 001.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nikrape (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, insufficient context to determine encyclopedic use. B (talk) 00:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. No information as to subject, purpose, or intended use.  JGHowes  ^talk 17:39, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep identified based on deleted contribs as Stoneygate Pumping Station, Sunderland, which seems to be some sort of historical building so that the photos could eventually be useful. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename and Move to Commons for the same reasons Calliopejen1 wants to keep it. As I've stated below, I found a related link right here. And apparently there are some others. ----DanTD (talk) 22:28, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: moved to Commons. All of the Stoneygate Pumping Station photos are now located on Commons in the category Stoneygate Pumping Station. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:56, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Car 004.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nikrape (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, insufficient context to determine encyclopedic use. B (talk) 00:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. No information as to subject, purpose, or intended use.  JGHowes  ^talk 17:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep identified based on deleted contribs as Stoneygate Pumping Station, Sunderland, which seems to be some sort of historical building so that the photos could eventually be useful. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename and Move to Commons for the same reasons Calliopejen1 wants to keep it. As I've stated below, I found a related link right here. And apparently there are some others. ----DanTD (talk) 22:28, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: moved to Commons. All of the Stoneygate Pumping Station photos are now located on Commons in the category Stoneygate Pumping Station. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:56, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:DSCF00051.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nikrape (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, insufficient context to determine encyclopedic use. B (talk) 00:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep identified based on deleted contribs as Stoneygate Pumping Station, Sunderland, which seems to be some sort of historical building so that the photos could eventually be useful. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename and Move to Commons for the same reasons Calliopejen1 wants to keep it. As I've stated below, I found a related link right here. And apparently there are some others. ----DanTD (talk) 22:29, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: moved to Commons. All of the Stoneygate Pumping Station photos are now located on Commons in the category Stoneygate Pumping Station. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:56, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:DSCF00061.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nikrape (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, insufficient context to determine encyclopedic use. B (talk) 00:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep identified based on deleted contribs as Stoneygate Pumping Station, Sunderland, which seems to be some sort of historical building so that the photos could eventually be useful. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename and Move to Commons for the same reasons Calliopejen1 wants to keep it. As I've stated below, I found a related link right here. And apparently there are some others. ----DanTD (talk) 22:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: moved to Commons. All of the Stoneygate Pumping Station photos are now located on Commons in the category Stoneygate Pumping Station. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:56, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:DSCF00081.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nikrape (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, insufficient context to determine encyclopedic use. B (talk) 00:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep identified based on deleted contribs as Stoneygate Pumping Station, Sunderland, which seems to be some sort of historical building so that the photos could eventually be useful. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Found a related link right here. And apparently there are some others. ----DanTD (talk) 17:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 11:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Car 007.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nikrape (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, insufficient context to determine encyclopedic use. B (talk) 00:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Oppose - This and many of the other images posted by Nikrape are all of the "Stony Gate Pumping Station Sunderland," wherever that is. They look like some nice pics of an Industrial Revolution-era water pumping station that's being preserved. The preferable alternative would be to find out where the site is, rename all the images apporpriatley, and even if there's no article on the place, add it to the commons. ----DanTD (talk) 03:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Move to Commons. This appears to be a building of some sort in England based on Googling "Stoneygate pumping station Sunderland". Without pulling out my crystal ball (since it's kind of in a box and buried under a few things in the closet right now, ya know?), I can foresee a few potential educational uses for it. So let's give this and any similar files a good, solid name, and then send them over to Commons. SchuminWeb (Talk) 09:11, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • And why wait? I've moved it now: File:Stoneygate Pumping Station Sunderland.jpg. SchuminWeb (Talk) 09:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:DSCF0022dd.3.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Patrick Cowsill (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, too small to be useful B (talk) 00:35, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. unidentified generic plant at low-res. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:25, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:DSCF0044.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Skyzombie (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, subject is unidentified B (talk) 00:35, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:26, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:DSCF0084.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Regulator d (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic B (talk) 00:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:DSCF4314.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lewes (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, quality is too poor to be useful B (talk) 00:38, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rename and Move to Commons. This may be a show car, but it's a real one. ----DanTD (talk) 22:34, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, as this is unsalvagably poor quality. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:23, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:00, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jaanapada Jaatre.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Niri.M (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Nominating for file deletion, since it is already uploaded at following location: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jaanapada.jpg . Thank you. Niri / ನಿರಿ 00:38, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:PollyKlaas.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by WhisperToMe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:14, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Michaela565.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Zara565 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:16, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Johndavidgosch.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chris Stangl (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:16, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Amyphoto.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TheColdestCase (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:20, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Samantha Runnion.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Karppinen (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:21, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Charlie Keever.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Adnghiem501 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:21, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: No Consensus. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 00:37, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Adam-Walsh.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jelligraze (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:22, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. This particular file is the rare instance when an image becomes a cause celebre in its own right, thereby rising to the level of "iconic". The appeal of the Adam Welsh imagery has distinguished this case of an abducted/murdered child in the public eye from the many others and has led to the ongoing TV series, etc., and galvanized support for Adam Walsh-related legislation. As such, its fair use in this article is essential to "significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic" per NFCC, to adequately grasp how this image evoked such unprecedented public response.  JGHowes  ^talk 14:50, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Without sourced commentary about the photo itself, this boils down to WP:ILIKEIT, and "iconic" is not currently provided for in WP:NFCC. Thus it still fails WP:NFCC#8 despite your assertion. Bottom line is still that we don't need a photo to convey the information in this article. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please rectify argument this against WP:NFCC#8. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jacob wetterling.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TripleH1976 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:24, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please rectify argument this against WP:NFCC#8. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Christina marie williams.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Trulyscrumptious (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:25, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please rectify argument this against WP:NFCC#8. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Derrion Albert.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Justmeherenow (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:25, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please rectify argument this against WP:NFCC#8. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Nixzmary Brown.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Karppinen (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:25, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please rectify argument this against WP:NFCC#8. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Mollybish.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Fanficgurl (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

No reason to believe that this image is actually released into the public domain as stated. Additionally, if treated as a non-free image, it would fail WP:NFCC#8, as it is not necessary to see a photo of the victim to understand the subject of the article where the image is currently used. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:28, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:26, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Marcus Fiesel.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Karppinen (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:31, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:26, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please rectify argument this against WP:NFCC#8. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Preciousdoe.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Arundhati bakshi (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:JesseDirkhising.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by WhisperToMe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Elyse.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by M3tal H3ad (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Newmaker.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Karrmann (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:37, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please rectify argument this against WP:NFCC#8. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• keep Re above. Context. The image of the person unlawfully killed provides an immediate impact, particularly in view of her young age. 8. says "significantly increase understanding" not "in order to understand". Anybody can understand a 10 year old was killed. The photo makes it personal to the specific victim and the significance of such a youngster being exposed to the dangers of a traumatic "therapy".Fainites ^barleyscribs 01:34, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:MarthaMoxley.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by WhisperToMe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:37, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:29, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:SylviaLikens.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Barbados66 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:38, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:StephanieKuhen.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by WhisperToMe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:38, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: After reviewing the case that got the precedent, Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2011_July_8#File:Caylee_anthony.jpg, I noticed from the closing user:

"[...]Many assertions were made that removing the image would be detrimental to reader's understanding, for example: "part of the reason [people cared] about the murder trial" was the photo; that her health as evidenced in the photo was an important part of the trial; or that she was a white girl and this was the reason for the coverage; but no secondary and reliable sources have been brought forth to support these assertions. The onus is on the defenders of non-free content to prove why it should remain, and no one in the discussion below did so."

Problem is, this case has RSes of people who say "This girl was White, so therefore the case got media attention" and counterclaims from people who disagree. The people need this image as it illustrates the "missing white girl" aspect of the case.

As a note, I already found RSes of people who argue that the Caylee Anthony case was a "missing white girl" syndrome, so if it is determined that the "missing White girl" argument is enough to need a photo illustrating the person, then the Caylee Anthony photo may be coming back.

WhisperToMe (talk) 02:45, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Since when is a photo needed to indicate somebody's skin color? (unless you're Stephen Colbert, because he doesn't see race). –Drilnoth (T/C) 14:27, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - if the only thing you need a photo for is to "prove" that the victim was white, you can say that in text. Non-free photos are NOT used to prove assertions in the article - to prove an assertion in the article, you provide a reference to a reliable source. Non-free photos are used because they substantially enhance a user's understanding of a topic and their omission would be detrimental to that understanding. --B (talk) 12:40, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• I should point out that precedent would only really work if the cases are the same. I'm not sure they are or not. As to whether the coverage Whisper found meets NFCC, I'm not sure that's the case but that's not an issue for this FFD. As B points out race and to a lesser degree attractiveness is easy to state in text. Whisper I suggest you A) beef up the FUR for this image and then B) post the sources here for appraisal. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 14:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Added more to the Kuhen FAR.
  • The source is:
    • Noble, Kenneth B. "Child Is Slain, and a Neighborhood Voices Its Frustrations." The New York Times. September 22, 1995.
  • I'll see if I can find additional info about the photo itself and/or the "missing white girl" phenomenon relating to Kuhen
  • WhisperToMe (talk) 00:25, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete unless the article can contain sourced commentary on this photo itself. The fact that she is white can be stated in pure text. —teb728 t c 05:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:31, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Anna-Svidersky-2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tyrenius (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:40, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:31, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:KelseySmith.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Captain Phoebus (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:42, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Keep. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 00:39, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Emmett Till.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by QzDaddy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:41, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: According to:
  • Pickett, Debra. "50 YEARS AGO TODAY." Chicago Sun-Times. August 30, 2005. Retrieved on July 16, 2011.
• This photo was given to distribute to newspapers after reports that Till was missing popped up. This isn't a random photo, but a photo that became iconic of Till due to the usage in media reports.
• WhisperToMe (talk) 02:52, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Iconic" is not part of the non-free content criteria. Realize that if this were a free image, it wouldn't make a difference. But since this is non-free, no can do. I still don't see this image's being the subject of critical commentary, nor is it necessary to see an image of Till to understand the concept of his death. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In that case I'll see if I can find critical, sourced commentary about the photo. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://books.google.com/books?id=fLC2Ei-VvuoC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=Emmett+Till+%22Christmas+photo%22&source=bl&ots=95E1gcBdbG&sig=EokBLgzqeUuso9PBZCvGPdqt8PU&hl=en&ei=l2AiTs_EBcyDsALRysXBAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Emmett%20Till%20%22Christmas%20photo%22&f=false - And I think I found some. Adding to the article WhisperToMe (talk) 04:10, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Iconic" images are listed under WP:FAIR#Acceptable use as an acceptable reason to use an image. --B (talk) 12:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Key here being "as subjects of commentary". Thus iconic by itself is not a good reason, but subject of sourced commentary is. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:29, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Now it has sourced commentary - having sourced commentary specifically about the image and its significance is a reason to keep it. A book describes how this particular photograph, when it ran in the Mississippi press, humanized Emmett Till's image in the minds of Mississippians. The book describes the photo in text, and it stated that the story that ran the photo was one of the most positive portrayals of Till in the Mississippi press. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I agree with WhisperToMe's reasoning that the photo seems highly relevant to the story. --B (talk) 12:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• keep it certainly helps my understanding of what the victim looked like. not likely to find free photo of deceased person, but if found then delete Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:33, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please rectify argument this against WP:NFCC#8. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." - The image enhances the readers' understanding of how Emmett Till was humanized in the news media, particularly in the Mississippi media (as the source I found said) - the humanization of Till was instrumental in the outrage that resulted in learning of the details of the case. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:52, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Caplanhouse.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Pepso2 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

WP:NFCC#8. Image itself not the subject of critical commentary, nor is the image necessary to understand the subject. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• keep image adds to understanding of critical sourced commentary. please don't delete the image from the article before the outcome is settled here. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Repeating from nomination: "WP:NFCC#8. Image itself not the subject of critical commentary, nor is the image necessary to understand the subject." Please identify sourced commentary about this specific image. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:50, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:GrimesCrimeScene.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by ColdCase (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Appears to fail WP:NFCC#8, as this image itself is not the subject of critical commentary itself, nor is it otherwise necessary to understand the subject of the article. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:30, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The picture illustrates how police and press are trampeling the crime scene. This was also in the description of the picture but seems to have been removed from the article at some stage. This considerably hindered the investigation at a later point because the crime scene was thereby altered by press and police. You can also see the alignment of the bodies when they were found, this is hard to describe in words and seeing it in a picture helps. So I think WP:NFCC#8 is thereby fulfilled. ColdCase (talk) 04:12, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't think you need a picture to demonstrate the trampling, particularly if the article doesn't even mention it. Nothing can be conveyed in the picture that can't be said with "members of the press trampled the crime scene six feet from the bodies". I would be more inclined to say that the photos of the bodies themselves are relevant to the topic, but you can barely see them in this picture ... so I don't know that this photo really helps your understanding. --B (talk) 12:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If the only avaliable crime-scene photo of a murder case isn't contextual significant, I don't know what is. A crime-scene photo is always important, hence the many pictures made today by investigators of such a crime scene. The alignment of the bodies is extremly important in that case, still hard to explain with words... a pictures says more than a thousand words, and that's especially true in this case I think. I think you can see enough on this picture, yet I'm glad that you can't see every detail, like their faces, as I think this would be unnecessary inappropriate. ColdCase (talk) 10:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're getting different concepts confused. It is one thing for a photo of a crime scene to be necessary to help solve a crime. It is another matter entirely for us to be permitted to use an image through free licensing or fair use, and here, I don't think we have it. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:52, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment the Grimes sisters are dead, so no new free photos can be taken of those two... (our article is called "Grimes sisters", so 'should' be biographical (though in reality, is a crime article, so should probably be renamed) ) 65.93.15.213 (talk) 06:58, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Merit badge group.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vanished 6551232 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

A collage of multiple non-free images is almost never accepted as fair use. I know this is pretty, but I can't think of any reasonable justification for this being used. There are plenty of other (non-free) images being used on this page already to illustrate the subject. I don't object to those, it's just that this one is gratuitous. Sven Manguard Wha? 05:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The rest of the images at History of merit badges (Boy Scouts of America) are also collages. --98.249.32.186 (talk) 14:27, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and no. Yes, they are technically two separate non-free images in one picture. However it's the front and the back of same object, where both sides are discussed in the article, so it's not the same as the one up for deletion, which is five different objects, all of which are already in the article already. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:08, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where are the guidelines on collages? Whet defines a collage? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't a "collage", it's single picture with multiple items in it. If every photo with more than one item in it were a "collage", then nearly all photos would be "collages" which is not true. North8000 (talk) 00:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, it's a "picture with multiple items in it". Now that that's out of the way, how about we discuss whether or not it meets the NFCC requirements? I say it dosen't. I've yet to see anyone say that it does. Sven Manguard Wha? 08:05, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have poked around and can't find any criteria related to collages. All of the individual images are sourced to and owned by the same organization. You say it doesn't meet the criteria, I'm asking please show me. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:05, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

At issue are criteria #3a (Minimal usage: Multiple items of non-free content are not used if one item can convey equivalent significant information.) and more importantly, criteria #8 (Contextual significance: Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding.)

In other words, because all of the items in that lead image are already in the article elsewhere this adds nothing to the article which is not already gained by the other images that are in that article. I should have made this clearer earlier. Sorry about that. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:31, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And those are rationales I can understand and agree with. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 01:23, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Whether one wants to call it a collage or not is immaterial. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:36, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:1977Talladega500DavidPearson.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GVnayR (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free, random low-quality snapshot from a car racing event in the 1970s. Fails NFCC#8, doesn't convey any concrete visual information that is crucial for understanding the article. Purely decorative use. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:15, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:1980Firecracker400.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GVnayR (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free, extremely small and low quality snapshot from a car racing event. Fails NFCC#8, as it doesn't convey any concrete visual information that is crucial for understanding the article. Purely decorative use, but really too small to be useful even just as a decoration. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:21, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:1966Firecracker400.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GVnayR (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free, extremely small and low quality snapshot from a car racing event. Fails NFCC#8, as it doesn't convey any concrete visual information that is crucial for understanding the article. Purely decorative use, but really too small to be useful even just as a decoration. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:1965Southern500NASCAR.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GVnayR (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free, extremely small and low quality snapshot from a car racing event. Fails NFCC#8, as it doesn't convey any concrete visual information that is crucial for understanding the article. FUR claims that it shows some specific aspect of the race, but that is not the object of discussion in the article. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:CobWeb Queen 1778.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Splendora magico (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unidentified subject. Google search for "cobweb queen" sheds no light. — This, that, and the other (talk) 08:18, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Rafial Magigico 1779.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Splendora magico (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Same reasons as for the nomination immediately preceding this one. — This, that, and the other (talk) 08:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Bugatti Galibier 16c.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Камалян001 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I have strong doubts about the copyright ownership of the uploader. This car is a prototype which has only been shown in car shows but is not on the road. This looks like a cropped version of a press image Hektor (talk) 10:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete user has been uploading tons of copyvios on commons, including photos of critically endangered snakes grabbed from random websites. The rest of his uploads should also be assessed. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:38, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Hope College1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Steliosmegelios (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, statement of permission sounds dubious, "Permission Granted on 3/15/2006 from Hope College Public Relations to use this image in Wikipedia" B (talk) 14:01, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Srbac BiH.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ajdebre (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, File:Srbac municipality.svg is a much better image, no indication of where the blank map came from B (talk) 14:02, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Sins.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Doran . (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic, statement of permission sounds dubious - "Author Pip (aschloss@gmail.com) has given permission for his images to be used on wikipedia from www.sincomics.com" B (talk) 14:02, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Thesins.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Doran . (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic, statement of permission sounds dubious - "Author Pip (aschloss@gmail.com) has given permission for his images to be used on wikipedia from www.sincomics.com" B (talk) 14:03, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Sinsnames.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Doran . (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic, "Image is copyright of Pip (Adam Schlosser) of www.sincomics.com" B (talk) 14:03, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Virtues.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Doran . (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic, "Images copyright Adam Schlosser of www.sincomics.com" B (talk) 14:03, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:UNTL.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Andrew lepper (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, insufficient context to determine encyclopedic use, description page gives a source URL (which is now a dead link), but no indication of permission nor even a claim that the uploader is the author B (talk) 14:05, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Archive version of source url[1] does not indicate that it is a free photo. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Wikifur14july2006.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DeVandalizer (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned screenshot of WikiFur website. The screenshot contains, among other things, a copyrighted screenshot from the Daily Show (which I assume they are using under a claim of fair use). B (talk) 14:07, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, logo for article Biotechcellence, which was deleted four years ago, claim of GFDL license is dubious B (talk) 14:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, unencyclopedic B (talk) 14:12, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Cham albanians gallery.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Balkanian`s word (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Per Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_files/2011_March_30#File:Cham_refugee_camp_in_Albania.jpg, which is one of the images included in this gallery, which makes the image's use here non-free. Orphaned. –Drilnoth (T/C) 14:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Yup. Delete. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:54, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Victoriaboarding.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Marokwitz (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free historic photograph of a ship taken during a naval raid. While the historic event is no doubt notable, the image doesn't add anything concrete to its understanding. Purely decorative use, fails NFCC#8. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:46, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to understand how having an actual image of the raid itself in the article "doesn't add anything concrete to its understanding". You are misinterpreting "purely decorative". If we inserted a generic image of a ship, this would be a "purely decorative" use. This in contrast is a unique, rare image of the historical event described in the article, showing the ship being intercepted by a Saar-5 corvette, as described in the article. Marokwitz (talk) 14:56, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It may be an authentic image of the event, but it doesn't increase my understanding of the event. It simply shows two ships sailing next to each other. I can visualize two ships sailing next to each other just fine, without seeing an image of them. Show me any random photograph of the Victoria, and any random photograph of a corvette, and I can imagine them sailing next to each other even better. But nothing in the visual detail of this particular photograph helps me to actually understand better how the interception worked. The text (which is pretty well written) helps me to understand it a lot. The image just doesn't. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A well written article always covers the details shown in the photographs, so if we use your strict criteria we would have no fair use photos remaining - it is always possible to simply describe them. Perhaps the text is enough for you, but many people would find an actual photograph of an event instrumental. This type of use clearly qualifies as Fair use under U.S. and Israeli copyright laws. Furthermore, the IDF Spokesperson has released this video to the public, and explicitly specified in their terms of use that fair use is permitted. Lets see what other editors have to say. Marokwitz (talk) 04:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I don't see how the photo adds value. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete This isn't really as illustrative as File:Victoriaweapons.png is. I'm not seeing anything here except for two ships. It dosen't say "raid" to me, it says "two ships near each other". Sven Manguard Wha? 16:12, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Ok. I disagree, but consensus seems to be against me, so I withdraw my objection to delete. Marokwitz (talk) 22:00, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Fancruft — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, unencyclopedic, uploaded by a vandalism-only account B (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, unencyclopedic, uploaded by a vandalism-only account B (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, logo for Storybender, which was deleted four years ago B (talk) 16:04, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, unencyclopedic, words fail me B (talk) 16:05, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, unencyclopedic B (talk) 16:06, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, uploaded only for deleted article James Brydon B (talk) 16:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, purports to be a CD cover so possibly a copyvio B (talk) 16:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, purports to be a CD cover, so possibly a copyvio B (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, purports to be a CD cover, so possibly a copyvio B (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, purports to be a CD cover, so possibly a copyvio B (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, purports to be a CD cover, so possibly a copyvio B (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, unencyclopedic B (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:My school pic.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Davidzx (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic, possible copyright problems. Acather96 (talk) 17:46, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:MisterAlcohol StatesVisited.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mister Alcohol (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Personal file of an inactive user. Since it just shows Virginia highlighted, no real encyclopedic use that other images don't already serve. –Drilnoth (T/C) 22:17, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:N9ne steakhouse.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Pvisi111 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Looks like a non-free logo, not GFDL as stated, and I can't think of a valid FUR for it if it is non-free. –Drilnoth (T/C) 22:38, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: No Consensus. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 00:41, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:RachelJ.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JGHowes (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Citing precedent set at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 July 8#File:Caylee anthony.jpg, it is not necessary to show a non-free photo of the victim to understand the content of the article, per WP:NFCC#8. If this were a free photo, it would be perfectly fine to include a photo of the victim. However, since it is non-free, it must meet all ten non-free content criteria, and it would appear to fail one of them. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. The precedent cited does not apply, because this image is a book cover of the deceased person's biography and writings, which the article goes on to use extensively in discussing the ongoing youth movement and organization that was founded based on the book. NFCC policy, it should be noted, specifically allows "Cover art from various items, for identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary)". While the extent or degree of "critical commentary" is necessarily subjective and, hence, subject to differing views, in this instance the standard is certainly met. It identifies the book for the reader, and confirms for the reader that the article in which it is used is about the same person pictured in this iconic image that is used in numerous publications and mailings distributed by the organization founded in the victim's memory. The organization's widespread use of this specific image to appeal to the public and galvanize support for its goals makes its fair use in this article essential to "significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic" per NFCC #8. In summary, the image as used in this instance meets all 10 tests for non-free content.  JGHowes  ^talk 14:36, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:NFC#UUI #9 This is a cropped book cover used to illustrate an article on the person whose photograph is on the cover, where the cover itself is not the subject of sourced discussion in the article. Indeed, the article barely mentions the book. And the cropping of the cover image makes it worthless to identify the book. —teb728 t c 05:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Regardless of anything else, 99 times out of 100 non-free book covers are not permitted on any Wikipedia page except for that of the book the cover is of. Sven Manguard Wha? 16:41, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• keep picture of victim adds to my understanding. unlikely to find free image of deceased. or if you want me to write the book article to show the cover infobox, i will. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:44, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ok done: Rachel's Tears: The Spiritual Journey of Columbine Martyr Rachel Scott. Slowking4: 7@1|x 15:38, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Since the image is cropped, it is not appropriate to identify the book article. —teb728 t c 15:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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