The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete . ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Josef Schmalz[edit]

Repeatedly submitted for review at AFC without any substantial changes and better sourcing. Numerous IPs have repeatedly played us for fools by posting the draft on Talk:Josef Schmalz which led to Josef Schmalz being created, just to get deleted at AFD as non-notable. Sam Sailor 01:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In support of the deletion. It doesn't pass any of AfC's criteria. EROS ^message 06:34, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Given that the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josef Schmalz was delete on grounds of notability I don't see how we'd expect any other outcome for a draft which is substantially identical. Those that believe the subject is notable would need to produce additional sources. Their rationale that sources are hard to find because the subject pre-dated the Internet is hard to swallow given that we have great articles on Plato, Socrates or Bach with no shortage of references indicating notability.

On a related note, I have somewhat more hope for Draft:Original Donauschwaben passing WP:NBAND, and Schmalz being their conductor I would expect content on him to properly live there, though not to the same extent as the standalone draft nominated here. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:23, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete had we redirected the Draft at mainspace as is commonly done it wouod have been deleted dependant on a deleted page. Way too many resubmissions. Legacypac (talk) 00:59, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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