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The result of the discussion was speedily deleted per U1. –xeno^talk 16:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC) –xeno^talk 16:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:Programmer13/Vandalism Patrol[edit]

A ranking thing that is both a complete mess and blatantly social. Vandalism "hunting" doesn't need to have groups doing the exact same thing and this is an example of this. Pointless MySpace substitute - go and make a Facebook group instead... weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 12:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete with fire and brimstone. Divisive; contrary to Wikipedia policy and practice. Harmful to the encyclopedia. KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 12:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I saw this as entirely humourous. It's so overblown it reads to me as a self-parody. Have you read Lar's self-nom on the talk page? --Dweller (talk) 12:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  If its meant to be funny, its still a mess - Esperanza had entire subsections for games for "relaxation" or somesuch; as nom said, make a Facegroup page. Im not averse to a joke but not an entire joke project. KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 12:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  Is it a joke project or just a joke page in userspace? --Dweller (talk) 12:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  @Dweller, if it is a self-parody it's gone a little too far I reckon. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 12:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  Maybe, that'd be a subjective opinion. But is it worthy of deletion? Which deletion criterion is this being considered under? --Dweller (talk) 12:29, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  Dweller, we've deleted a ton of cruft like this. I don't feel like trying to remember the titles of all the nonsense we've dumped, but try reading WP:DEL#REASON: Reasons for deletion include, but are not limited to, the following (subject to the condition that improvement or deletion of an offending section, if practical, is preferable to deletion of an entire page): (list redacted, except for last entry) Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia - in which the word "not" links to WP:NOT, from which I quote: " "that is a terrible idea" is always sufficient grounds". I trust that answers your questions. KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 12:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  That's a lousy policy to try to apply to anything other than mainspace, as every single user page, talk page, user talk page and Projectspace page is not suitable for an encyclopedia. --Dweller (talk) 12:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Somewhat weak keep. I don't think this is actively harmful, it's a bit like WP:SERVICE awards (Bronze Editor Star, etc.) but for vandalism and also takes the lead from the "WP:DEFCON" style of reporting vandalism levels. Those tables though, were they imported from somewhere? At a quick glance, I don't see that it was attributed properly. –xeno^talk 13:04, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Leave it alone to die a peaceful, natural death. Yes, it seems a bit silly. No, it isn't going to turn into something productive. But it isn't hurting anything, this "divisive project" is a group of 4-5 editors who couldn't harm wikipedia if they wanted to, (which they don't), it's allowing a couple of editors a place to goof around, and there's every likelihood is will peter out in a bit anyway. MFD'ing it without at least a couple of sentences worth of discussion with Programmer13 first is disrespectful to a fellow editor, and stands a chance of driving someone away. If this page was all that this group of editors was doing, it might be a problem, but everyone contributing to the page is also doing some useful work somewhere. The wise thing to do would be to ignore it, with perhaps a respectful note on Programmer13's talk page if you feel it necessary. --Floquenbeam (talk) 13:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Go to the talk page and vote Lar for "General of the Vandalism Patrol". He's running on a deletionist platform, and will speed along the natural death. Oh, and delete anyway. --NE2 15:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Nuke from Orbit — It's the old way to be sure. If this is kept we're going to have to refer to Larry as Sir. Think of Josette. Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:23, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Per my platform, delete. But gently, gently, kindly, thoughtfully, with an explanation of why this sort of thing is not a good idea (working to correct vandalism is not a "game" or a "military action" and ranks are generally considered Not a Good Idea, and Wikipedia isn't a social club, we're here to write an encyclopedia). Meanwhile do feel free to vote for me. ++Lar: t/c 14:01, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Don't waste your time, I am deleting the useless page anyway and creating something more useful like User:Programmer13/How to Hunt Vandals. Programmer13^Talk_{What I do} 16:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.