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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 2, 2014.

Divine intervention

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 December 11#Divine intervention

Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA

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The result of the discussion was retarget to WP:NOTWEBHOST (non-admin closure). I have boldly retargeted to the expanded section title rather than the shortcut. Ivanvector (talk) 23:07, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just created this redirect, but now, I question its target. I have targeted the redirect to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought, which is currently the target of WP:NOTFANSITE. Immediately after I created this redirect, I questioned both if its the best target, as well as the redirect's existence. Given that Wikia is sort of associated with Wikimedia, given that their heads are the same person, I'm not trying to belittle either organization, but rather create this redirect in terms of how it could help Wikipedians here. In my experiences on Wikia sites, most of them seem like fan-driven wikis with their own set of notability requirements, etc ... and thus, why I targeted it there as the equivalent of a "fan page". Is this the best target? Should the redirect be deleted? I would like community opinions on this redirect, but for the purpose of this discussion, I am weak keep/neutral. Steel1943 (talk) 21:42, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Voyage au pays des nouveaux gourous

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The result of the discussion was keep. Withdrawn by nominator. Tgeairn (talk) 22:47, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Following an AfD discussion, the content was merged into Landmark Worldwide. This redirect is now an orphan (with only one double-redirect remaining linked to it). There is no need to maintain this orphan. Tgeairn (talk) 21:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Pope Gregorius XVII

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Siri Thesis. --BDD (talk) 18:39, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect was created by a disruptive page move. As the body of the article notes, Giuseppe Siri was never pope, and the redirect serves no real purpose. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:28, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not per nom. Where did the nom ask for it to be deleted? The default is Keep. Si Trew (talk) 03:40, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"This redirect was created by a disruptive page move" and "The redirect serves no real purpose" are both statements that can be taken as implicitly asking for deletion of a redirect when nominated here in the absence of any explicit statement to the contrary. The nominator didn't call for speedy deletion, and while G3 does cover redirects created when fixing page move vandalism, this is sufficiently plausible to at least merit discussion because the term does appear in the target article. Specifically it appears in the "conclave speculation" section, but instead of targetting there I think it should be retargeted to Siri Thesis which is the main article for that link. The article deals with the speculation/rumours that Siri was elected pope and chose the pontifical name Gregory (English)/Gergorius (Latin) XVII. Thryduulf (talk) 14:01, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget per Thryduulf. That sounds sensible.
But I disagree with the "deletion is implied" argument. I didn't know whether to bring this up at Talk but the heading "This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on (date)" I think is misleading: giving undue prominence to deletion. It is redirects for discussion, as you well know and that is what it says. If you want to make it "Redirects for Deletion", a common fallacy, then say so. I was wondering how to ask to change the strap from "deletion or other action" to "discussion". I was going to bring this up on Talk but might as well do it here.
For if not, why call it "discussion" if the default is "deletion"? It says at WP:RFD#The guiding principles of RfD that the default is delete, but at WP:RFD#Keep it rather is mealy-mouthed about it. But several here including me assume the default is "Keep"; and that is kinda the Hippocratic Oath, "first do no harm". I haven't done a straw poll but I would guess about a third go deletion, a third get retargeted, and, the last third half of them (that is a sixth of the total) go keep and the other half fall by the wayside when nobody is interested. Deletion is a large minority, but a minority nonetheless, and I think RfD is misrepresented as "Redirects for Deletion" etc in Twinkle and so on. You and I and many others go and research to try to tie things up; for me deletion is kinda the last resort. Si Trew (talk) 13:49, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I can't follow almost all of that, but I didn't say that deletion is always implied, just that the wording of this nomination clearly implies that user:Robert McClenon believes this redirect should be deleted. Discussion of what the guiding principles are/should be and/or what the instructions, etc say is a matter for WT:RFD not an individual nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 14:40, 6 October 2014 (UTC) ps: You currently have two bolded recommendations in this discussion, please fix that. Thryduulf (talk) 14:40, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Ford V8

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Ford engines#8 Cylinder. --BDD (talk) 14:51, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Direct to a different page. This and Ford V-8 currently redirect to the first V-8 Ford, one of the 1932 Fords. I would suggest it instead redirect to List of Ford engines#8 Cylinder (where Ford V8 engine redirects), or to Ford flathead V8 engine. pbp 20:24, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if we should split that section out of there into List of Ford V8 engines (and retarget to that) and then make a parallel at List of Ford V8 vehicles or some such? I've taken the liberty of adding Ford V-8 to the nomination proper. Si Trew (talk) 06:06, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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G Blows

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:35, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This redirect's topic is not explained in the topic article. Also, it is unclear what this is, and there seems to be no other topic for redirecting. Steel1943 (talk) 20:24, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia tool

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:34, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace. I wouldnt be surprised if we can find a mainspace target for this title. John Vandenberg (chat) 16:39, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia Observer Effect

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:33, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not a real thing. Content rightly removed from target page, as it is silly content.[1] John Vandenberg (chat) 16:23, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Several redirects with bolding HTML code

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:19, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. These redirects do not serve any useful navigational purpose as searching does not require HTML code (such as the ones used for these redirects which is supposed to cause bold text, but does not since it's in the actual title.) Each of these redirects have an equivalent that exists that does not contain the three apostrophes on each side that redirects to their targets, so navigation would not be lost if the nominated redirects were to be deleted. Steel1943 (talk) 14:47, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:Occupy Central

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The result of the discussion was redirect boldy replaced with project banners. Thryduulf (talk) 07:57, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation page Occupy Central also deserves its own talk page, not sharing with Occupy Central (2011–12)'s. Not sure how to interpret the history, but seems to be a creation of error? 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 07:48, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Nimco Ali

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The result of the discussion was procedural close; the redirect was converted into an article. --BDD (talk) 15:15, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nimco Ali is not the same person as Leyla Hussein. Both are notable and I would like to create an article for Nimco Ali. I am One of Many (talk) 06:34, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*Endorse and close as above. Go for it! Si Trew (talk) 09:14, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment So did you want to create the bio for her? I heard her on NPR yesterday and decided she need an article. I can help out if you like, otherwise I'll probably write it this weekend. I am One of Many (talk) 18:43, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah User:I am One of Many, I already started it at Nimko Ali (with a "k") since that appears to be her WP:COMMONNAME. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 18:50, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Middayexpress: The nomination is for Nimco Ali, not Nimko Ali where you've created the stub. So it's not a procedural close. (Seems pretty obvious what to do, though.) Si Trew (talk) 07:18, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia secure server

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace. John Vandenberg (chat) 05:19, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia is not a finished project

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:13, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

cross-namespace redirect from mainspace. John Vandenberg (chat) 05:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:08, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace. John Vandenberg (chat) 05:11, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia/Education program

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 December 5#Wikipedia/Education program

Wikipedia (UNESCO World Heritage Site)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 December 5#Wikipedia (UNESCO World Heritage Site)

Wikipedia is not a blog

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:06, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:34, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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User box

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:06, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:17, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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