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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 11, 2023.

Pax Russica

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 18#Pax Russica

Andersnordic

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 19#Andersnordic

Fred Hansen (poker player)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence that Gus or Gustav Hansen is known as Fred. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Martin Kabrhel (midstakes poker player)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:39, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear why these have different targets, nor why the redirects have a navbox on them. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:59, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Martin Ryan (quarter-professional poker player)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:39, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As noted elsewhere, "quarter-professional" is likely a neologism invented by the redirects' creator, and is unlikely to be useful. Based on the references being used to support a lot of these odd redirects, I am starting to think that the creator has been using Wikipedia for SEO for an online poker site. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:56, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Calvin Anderson (bracelet winner)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

More unnecessary redirects from overly-specific-but-still-ambiguous disambiguators, all but one targeting the only poker player named Calvin Anderson with a Wikipedia article. Some were mentioned in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 2#Calvin Anderson (lawn mower) but no actions were suggested for these. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:50, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Jeremy Kottler (real estate broker)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:39, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

More unnecessary disambiguators, as there is only one Jeremy Kottler with an article on Wikipedia. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Jan-Peter Jachtmann (poker player)

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Liz Read! Talk! 19:20, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary disambiguation; there is only one Jan-Peter Jachtmann with an article on Wikipedia. Delete per WP:RFD#D1 (a reader looking for this person can just type their name and the article will come up). Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Amy Muller

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. As an unopposed deletion nomination. Jay 💬 05:11, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. While the redirect has text below the redirect line noting this was a film directed by William Heise, which was release in 1896; we have no mention of this film anywhere on Wikipedia, so it seems this redirect should be deleted unless details of the film are added, at the very least in a sourced filmography section, on William Heise's article. TartarTorte 17:28, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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David Larson (low stakes poker player)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:39, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this is the last of the David Larson redirects. Delete or retarget to David Larson (disambiguation) as all the others. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:28, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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2012 World Championship of Online Poker Main Event

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:40, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page move detritus. The creator tried an end-run of AFD by recreating the currently-targeted article at this location and then using a sock to close the discussion, but that copy has been merged back into the target. We do not have an article on this championship other than a results table at World Championship of Online Poker#2012 events, which does identify a "main event" but both sources supporting it are dead. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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2012 World Championship of Onliner Poker

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:40, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; implausible error. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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David Larson (circuit player)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Circuit player" is not an adequate disambiguator. Either retarget to David Larson (disambiguation) or delete. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:05, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Rokusho Shrine, (Toyota)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The comma then parentheses is implausible. If there's a precedent for keeping these let me know and I'll withdraw. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 17:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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David Larson (quarter-professional poker player)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 14:46, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Renominating these since the closer of the recent discussion was a sockpuppet of the page's creator, and because new information may have come to light which I think salts the previous discussion; I will notify the participants, though. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:49, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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David Larson (casual poker player)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:41, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, not mentioned at target Fram (talk) 14:14, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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David Larson (midstakes poker player)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 14:46, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading and odd... the target describes him as a "low-stakes" player. I don't know anything about poker, but it seems to me that "low-stakes" and "midstakes" are not synonymous. (NPP action) Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 00:59, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We have three different poker player named David Larson. The first set of redirects (quarter-professional; amateur; casual) were listed here after it mistakingly was thought of as one player. Upon the listing, on a request belong the discussion, I then created a set of new redirects (2 redirects + 1 new article (amateur --> WPT winner; casual --> aria casino player) + (David Larson (poker player). As an experiment I concludingly created a third set of redirects (low stakes poker player --> poker player; midstakes poker player --> WPT winner; micro stakes poker player --> 2015 World Series of Poker. Now we have three unique sets of listing the David Larsons! TheElvisBelievingBumbleBee (talk) 05:44, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Link to previous Rfd --> Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_August_22#David_Larson_(casual/amateur/quarter-professional_poker_player)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on retargeting?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Utopes (talk / cont) 04:54, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting following a reversion of an WP:INVOLVED close by the redirect creator.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 13:40, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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David Larson (micro stakes poker player)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 14:46, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Based on my searches, "micro stakes" is not synonymous with "low-stakes" how Larson is described in the article. (NPP action) Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 01:00, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We have three different poker player named David Larson. The first set of redirects (quarter-professional; amateur; casual) were listed here after it mistakingly was thought of as one player. Upon the listing, on a request belong the discussion, I then created a set of new redirects (2 redirects + 1 new article (amateur --> WPT winner; casual --> aria casino player) + (David Larson (poker player). As an experiment I concludingly created a third set of redirects (low stakes poker player --> poker player; midstakes poker player --> WPT winner; micro stakes poker player --> 2015 World Series of Poker. Now we have three unique sets of listing the David Larsons! TheElvisBelievingBumbleBee (talk) 05:44, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Link to previous Rfd --> Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_August_22#David_Larson_(casual/amateur/quarter-professional_poker_player)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting following a reversion of an WP:INVOLVED close by the redirect creator.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 13:39, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Chicken Poutine

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 18#Chicken Poutine

Zoomer perm

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 14:23, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:SSRT, most dicdefs on Wiktionary shouldn't get a soft redirect here. Fram (talk) 10:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Adoption in China

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy close. See WP:RENOM. The previous discussion was relisted, so there was more than a week to air concerns about the suggested retarget. Otherwise, closers are usually receptive if you ask them to back out of their closure and relist if you explain why you feel that'd be productive. On the other hand, immediately renominating is disruptive because it undermines the previous discussion and the consensus therein. -- Tavix (talk) 13:12, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A broad and obviously notable topic should not probably redirect to one of presumably several organizations that are relevant to it. This should be a red topic per WP:RED. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Miranda (mother of Frances)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 04:13, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect was created from some dubious OR that is not mentioned at the target article, nor should it be. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 22:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Utopes (talk / cont) 05:11, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Klaǐpēda

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 04:13, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think people will look up "Klaipeda" with those weird diacritics on them, it looks like an implausible search term to me. Reminds me of Čanada and Ğööğle which were deleted due to similar issues. #prodraxis connect 03:30, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Largest economies

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of countries by GDP (nominal). (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 03:33, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest retargeting to List of countries by GDP (nominal). Nominal GDP is the usual method by which the sizes of economies are measured, so targeting a generic list of lists will surprise many readers. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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