Cities and towns in the war in Iraq and the Levant

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Editors involved in this dispute
  1. Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs) – filing party
  2. 1Trevorr (talk · contribs)
  3. 8fra0 (talk · contribs)
  4. Ahmetyal (talk · contribs)
  5. AlAboud83 (talk · contribs)
  6. Banak (talk · contribs)
  7. Boredwhytekid (talk · contribs)
  8. DaJesuZ (talk · contribs)
  9. DuckZz (talk · contribs)
  10. EllsworthSK (talk · contribs)
  11. Greyshark09 (talk · contribs)
  12. HCPUNXKID (talk · contribs)
  13. Helmy1453 (talk · contribs)
  14. Hwinsp (talk · contribs)
  15. Jack6780 (talk · contribs)
  16. LightandDark2000 (talk · contribs)
  17. MesmerMe (talk · contribs)
  18. NightShadeAEB (talk · contribs)
  19. Paolowalter (talk · contribs)
  20. Pbfreespace3 (talk · contribs)
  21. Prohibited Area (talk · contribs)
  22. Rhocagil (talk · contribs)
  23. Saphyr66 (talk · contribs)
  24. Spesh531 (talk · contribs)
  25. SyrianObserver2015 (talk · contribs)
  26. Tgoll774 (talk · contribs)
  27. Tradedia (talk · contribs)
  28. XJ-0461 v2 (talk · contribs)
  29. 햄방이 (talk · contribs)
  30. 84.31.204.195 (talk · contribs)
  31. 169.231.25.10 (talk · contribs)
  32. EkoGraf (talk · contribs)
  33. FutureTrillionaire (talk · contribs)
  34. Jafar Saeed (talk · contribs)
  35. KajMetz (talk · contribs)
  36. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk · contribs)
  37. 3bdulelah (talk · contribs)
  38. Lothar von Richthofen (talk · contribs)
  39. ChrissCh94 (talk · contribs)
  40. Roboskiye (talk · contribs)
  41. Mozad655 (talk · contribs)
  42. André437 (talk · contribs)
Articles affected by this dispute
  1. Module:Lebanese Insurgency detailed map (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  2. Module:Iraqi insurgency detailed map (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  3. Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted

Issues to be mediated

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Primary issues (added by the filing party)

Some background:

Issues:

  1. What guidelines should we use for inclusion of a town for one camp or another?
  2. What guidelines should we adopt for edit warring? Even though there is already a 1RR restriction, parties still sometimes flout it (and are blocked), or purposefully tier their edits to barely avoid 1RR.
  3. Are there any concrete steps we can take to address the lack of civility on the talk page (e.g., enforceable blocks) (side note: if I had a dime for every time an editor refers to another as a vandal, I'd be richer than Scrooge McDuck). Editors continue to behave this way despite being warned.

Final note: I do believe that most editors on this article only want what's best. But I am worried about the megalomanical POV.

Thanks. Magog the Ogre (tc) 04:33, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I think you're missing the point of why I opened this mediation. I stated only that enforceable sanctions were a possibility among many (apparently they are not; lesson learned). However, a good part of this mediation is still about how to provide proper sourcing. In fact, I'd say the majority of it. Please don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. We need mediation on these articles. Magog the Ogre (tc) 02:55, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Additional issues (added by other parties)

19-YEAR-OLD HERISH ALI, a British-Kurd, said he requested to join the YPG along with five other European Kurds in August but YPG border guards rejected them on the Iraq-Syria border.

"We met the YPG fighters and stayed with them at their Sihela border crossing to Iraqi Kurdistan. They were nice and we thought it was awesome to join them, but they rejected us when we revealed that we are students and we have dual nationalities," Ali said.
He added: "We told them that we feel degraded because it was like we are not capable men for this fight, but they kept refusing our arguments and said we should go back to Europe and study. Then, they drove us to the nearby Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga checkpoint where the peshmergas too rejected taking us as volunteers."[1]
BTW, this quote is present like this in that article :)
Let alone the name for that article, which is propaganda by itself forced by a handful of users who disappred after that renaming campaign. No major international body, media agency, or state adopts that name. still we have adopted that here becuase some local political entities or belligerents use that name. Again, it comes down to what's an acceptable reference and what's not. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 04:55, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Western "comrades" join Kurds, Arabs, secularists, Yezidis, and Syriac Christians against Islamic State".

Parties' agreement to mediation

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  1. Agree. Magog the Ogre (tc) 04:33, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Agree. Rhocagil (talk) 11:55, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Agree. Boredwhytekid (talk) 17:03, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Agree. XJ-0461 v2 (talk) 22:16, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Agree. AlAboud83 (talk) 02:58, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Agree. NightShadeAEB (talk) 03:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Agree. Banak (talk) 10:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Agree. Tradediatalk 15:24, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Agree. DaJesuZ (talk) 16:53, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Agree.3bdulelah (talk) 17:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Agree. --8fra0 (talk) 22:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Agree. tgoll774 (talk) Tgoll774 (talk) 10:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Agree Jafar Saeed (talk) 15:34, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Agree. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 17:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Agree. GreyShark (dibra) 16:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Agree. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 05:06, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Decision of the Mediation Committee

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Oops. MEDCOM ==> ARBCOM fixed. — TransporterMan (TALK) 20:58, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've read, considered, and moved the responses out of this committee-use-only section to more appropriate places above and have also noted Banak's addition to the issues, above. I'm going to let the matter rest until after the time for participant responses expires at 04:33 UTC, 18 July 2015‎. For the Mediation Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:52, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reject. Failed to satisfy prerequisite to mediation #5, "A majority of the parties to the dispute consent to mediation." For the Mediation Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:25, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]