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Behaviourally the slagging at the talk page, is something that has occurred in interactions with previous socks.

The editing of Dalang_(puppeteer), and Javanism appears to be engaging in similar editing patterns explained by @User:Austronesier observations in previous sock behaviours, exhibits some inventive etymology which utilises what is quite interesting in its deviousness, and potentially tricky to observe for non javanese interested editors. It can be quite problematic to deal with 'inventive etymology' where apparently obvious good sources are mis-used. It can be perplexing for editors not familiar with the behaviour - valid sources are utilised, and yet the inferences made from some genuine reliable source are problematic.

Tell tale errors of grammar and 'sense' text in editing, and in talk page editing, make some contributions glaringly obvious as a sign of problems with english.

It must be noted that the 'almost there' sense, but not there, might not be that obvious on a very quick read. JarrahTree 14:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment. This is again a loudly WP:QUACKING sock. This string of edits[1] contains the ultimate trademark: misuse of Zoetmulder's Old Javanese in support of atrocious etymologizing with the goal to present Javanese as the only source of all languages and culture in Indonesia. Maybe not obvious to non-linguists, but the derivation of the common word for "road" in hundreds of languages from the Javanese word for puppeteer is even below the standard of Flat-earthism. There is of course no monopoly on hogwash, but only @Eiskrahablo is capable to conconct this specific kind of utter nonsense. –Austronesier (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add @Drmies: here are two diffs from earlier socks:

• Blueberryl (talk · contribs) [2]
• Kauatro (talk · contribs) [3]

In both cases, Zoetmulder's dictionary is cited to attest the existence of actual Old Javanese words. The etymologies built around them, however, are not actually supported by the source, but are the sockmaster's own creation. In the second case, @Kauatro only added the "source", but the amateurish etymology was added before by another Eiskrahablo sock[4]. The same pattern is now repeated by the new sock, where Zoetmulder is cite to attest the forms ḍalaṅ and dalan, but the narrative spun around is again quite outlandish OR:

• @Histocultura:[5]

Here is another example the sockmaster's habit of pasting a citation to Zoetmulder's dictionary to support any kind of statement relating to a Javanese word[6]. –Austronesier (talk) 17:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• User:Austronesier, geolocation makes it certainly possible (note: geolocation is a poor tool unless there's a significant number of IPs used and they all match between suspect and sock), and I'm inclined to accept the identification, but if you could place a few diffs side by side that are characteristic one way or another, that would be great. Drmies (talk) 16:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• User:Austronesier, that's good enough for me. I blocked. Note: this is not a CU block in the strict sense, though CU supports it to some extent and certainly does not cast any doubt on the identification. Drmies (talk) 17:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]