JD Caselaw

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03 September 2010
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Suspected sockpuppets
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Evidence submitted by GregJackP
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The userpage of JD Caselaw shows that he is a law student at Columbia University and a member of WikiProject Law. The userpage of Agradman shows that he is a law student at Columbia University and a member of WikiProjects Law, U.S. Congress and SCOTUS. Both the talk page of JD Caselaw and Agradman show that they are both on a Wikibreak. JD Caselaw has done "cleanup" editing of Agradman's talkpage [1] and [2]. Agradman has extensively edited JD Caselaw's user page (too many diffs, see page history instead. Both accounts have voted in AfDs Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chysky v. Drake Bros. Co., Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leonardo Ciampa, both in support of each other. Wikistalk shows interesting results here. Writing style and edit summaries of both accounts is very similar. See also comment here by Agradman about watchlisting an article created by JD Caselaw. GregJackP Boomer! 03:38, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by accused parties   
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See Defending yourself against claims.

Editors who use more than one account are advised to provide links between them on the user pages (see below). They can also redirect the user and user talk pages of that account to their main account. Do not use undisclosed alternative accounts without very good reason. If you must, do so only with care. ...

Alternative accounts have legitimate uses. For example, long-term contributors using their real names may wish to use a pseudonymous account for contributions they do not want their real name to be associated with ...

Note. I am recusing myself from all further discussion of this article and removing it from my watch list. In the past 24 hours, I have been accused of sockpuppetry, had my real name and physical location listed, and Leonardo Ciampa has tried to contact me personally. This is not worth my time (especially considering that the article receives so little traffic) and it's definitely not worth the aggravation and lost sleep. Life is too short.THD3 (talk) 14:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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At WP:Articles_for_deletion/Chysky_v._Drake_Bros._Co., you explicitly state with your JD Caselaw account that you are not Agradman. You may not have known about the Wiki sockpuppet policy, but you didn't know not to lie? It seems to me that given your history you should not operate multiple accounts, regardless of your intentions. VQuakr (talk) 16:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I did lie. It was immature and disrespectful to Wikipedia and to Wikipedians like you, and it was unethical. Tampering with the trust of this community was horribly shortsighted. I could be so shortsighted only because, at that time, I did not yet know how much I would come to cherish that trust.
  • Since then, I have been an impeccable and upstanding editor. I have made Wikipedia a part of my life -- heck, it's a part of my resume. Some of the people I admire most in the world are editors who I met in this community.
  • As Jimbo puts it, "The harmony of our work depends on human understanding and forgiveness of errors." This quote comes from Jimbo's essay during the Essjay controversy. Two paragraphs up, Jimbo also asked Essjay to resign his Admin position, stating, "these positions are not appropriate for him now." I think the "now" in that statement is important. It acknowledges that certain mistakes can render people unworthy of trust, but it also acknowledges that these same people can earn that trust back.
  • The trust of this community is of awesome importance to me, and in the last fifteen months I have striven to earn it. I don't underestimate the gravity of this discussion. I am available to speak on the phone with anyone who asks to do so in an email to my user:Agradman account.
  • -Andrew Gradman, blocked by Wikibreak enforcer, editing as 128.59.179.250 (talk) 19:47, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
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information Administrator note No need for a checkuser at the moment, given the admission. There appears to be several instances of multiple account misuse:

All of these, however, are more than a year ago, and I don't find more deceptive uses since then. All things considered, I'm inclined to close this with no action, conditioned on JD Caselaw (talk · contribs) being positively identified as an alternate account of Agradman (talk · contribs) on its userpage. Comments are welcome. Timotheus Canens (talk) 02:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

@This question: The history of misuse here makes it preferable to link the two accounts so that the misuse will be easier to see; besides, this SPI case sorta blew the whole cover, don't you think? Even without this case, it takes only 2 minutes of study to figure out the link - if you want to use an account to make edits that you don't want linked to your main account, it really isn't a good idea, at all, to use that account to edit your main account's user and talk pages. Really. Now, if you really, really want to use an alternate account for this purpose, I don't have objections to you making a new one, provided that you disclose the account privately (by email) to arbcom. Timotheus Canens (talk) 12:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as the discussion has slowed down, I'm going to mark this for close. It appears there is general consensus for the remedies proposed by Timotheus Canens, namely that JD Caselaw be clearly identified as an alternate account of Agradman, with no further action taken. TNXMan 20:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]