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In the media

Turmoil on Hebrew Wikipedia, grave dancing, Olga's impact and inspiring Bhutanese nuns

Edit wars over real-life war in Gaza

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A conflict over a claimed intelligence failure spills over to Hebrew Wikipedia
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Israeli journalist Omer Benjakob reports in Haaretz (paywalled in both Hebrew and English) that Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu and his "hate cabinet" are trying to avoid responsibility, playing a "blame game", leaving military leaders to take the hit for the Israeli Intelligence failure that allowed the surprise attack led by Hamas on 7 October.

Hebrew Wikipedia has had its own battles and edit wars in this conflict. Benjakob cites the prolonged dispute between user Ya’akov and other Wikipedians on the Hebrew-language article about Yoram Cohen, who served as the Director of national internal security service Shin Bet from 2011 to 2016.

Ya’akov is one of the editors accused of "pushing conservative political views," by "promoting the view of Netanyahu and his entourage", that Israeli security chiefs are the only ones to blame for the IDF’s failure to prevent the 7 October attack. Hebrew Wikipedia editor David Shai, who created the article about Hamas's attack within an hour of its start, says "there’s enough blame and turpitude to go around."

On a side note, Benjakob has already written about Wikipedia for Haaretz and other media before, and his articles and essays have been frequently covered in the Signpost throughout the years.
S and O

The Wikis of Jacob

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Jacob Frank, the subject of The Books of Jacob.

It’s no surprise that The Books of Jacob, first published in 2014 by Olga Tokarczuk, has helped make the story of Polish Jewish religious leader Jacob Frank popular, while also helping the Polish writer and activist win both a Nike Award (in 2015) and a Nobel Prize in Literature (in 2018). However, the book might also have played an important role in expanding Wikipedia, as revealed in an interview (in Italian) with online newspaper Il Post.

In the interview, which had been arranged via e-mail by Ludovica Lugli, Tokarczuk cited the article about Frank on Polish Wikipedia as an example of how much the tales of the self-proclaimed messiah had been ignored in Poland before the book’s release, remembering how the page used to be just "an article limited to a single phrase" (a slightly incorrect statement, actually). According to the writer, none of the three religious groups involved – Orthodox Jews, Catholic Christians and the direct descendants of Frank’s disciples – had any interest in keeping the leader’s memory alive, to the point she discovered his story by pure chance, back in 2007, and it took her years to connect all the dots: "I didn’t expect to do such an enormous job", she stated.

Tokarczuk is also a familiar face within the Polish Wiki-community itself, having already collaborated with Wikimedia Polska in 2020 for an edit-a-thon focused on the articles of Nobel Prize-winning writers and artists on pl.wiki; even in this context, her statements against anti-semitism and homophobia can’t go unnoticed, considering the threats she has received by members of the Polish far-right in recent years, as well as the hugely controversial case involving World War II and the history of Jews in Poland, which the Signpost has broken down in previous issues. We also covered Tokarczuk's Nobel Prize acceptance speech, which you can see here. – O

Changing "is" to "was" followed by grave dancing?

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Henry Kissinger (right) died on November 29

Vice, Daily Dot, and the Administrators' noticeboard cover the first edit marking Henry Kissinger's death on Wednesday, November 29. The edit was made by Asticky, twelve minutes after Kissinger Associates announced the death via a press release. Soon Asticky's user page was filled with congratulations and a few barnstars. Administrators on their noticeboard questioned the taste of some of those posts, and in general discouraged "grave dancing".

Two days later, when CNBC announced the death of retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor at 9:57 am Eastern Time, four edits were made by anonymous IP editors in the subsequent five minutes. The first IP editor made two edits in that minute. The second IP editor appears to have been a congressional staffer who made their second edit after another two minutes. The Signpost predicts that the mainstream press will soon report this edit race as well. – S

In brief

  • "The Bhutanese nuns editing Wikipedia to share their culture": Bunty Avieson, writing in The Saturday Paper, profiles a group of Buddhist nuns and describes how they learned to edit both the English Wikipedia and the Dzongkha Wikipedia. (Dzongkha is the national language of Bhutan, and the Dzongkha Wikipedia contains less than 240 articles as of November 26.) –R
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Fountain by Marcel Duchamp, one of several art toilets you can learn about on Commons (including America by Maurizio Cattelan and Friedensreich Hundertwasser's public toilets in Kawakawa, New Zealand)
  • Famous toilets: Hindustan Times celebrates "World Toilet Day (November 19): The artists and their artsy toilets" with some photos from Commons.
  • More on Napoleon (the movie): Annie Rauwerda.
  • Derby Days: Italian sports magazine Rivista Undici encouraged their readers to look up the Wikipedia page about the story of El Clásico Peruano, the soccer derby between Alianza Lima and Universitario, in a recent article (in Italian) reporting about the latest edition of this clash, which saw Universitario win the national league title at their fierce rivals’ home stadium in great fashion… and controversy. If you would like to know why, you should go read the derby's page, too!
  • Apple Pay donations: The Wikimedia Foundation added Apple Pay to its options during the latest round of fundraising via Wikipedia banners. [1] (9 to 5 Mac)
  • George Santos biography, and thirteen other falsehoods: Were there only six lies from George Santos that are more important than the one he apparently posted on a user page? After his expulsion from U.S. Congress, The Guardian compiled Santos's top 14 debunked claims ranking his apparent user page delusions at number 7. They wrote "Politico noted that if Santos's Wikipedia entry, which contained the Hannah Montana claim, was not written by Santos – who was then posing as Anthony Devolder – it would mean it was written by someone posing as Santos. Santos's communications director, Naysa Woomer, refused to respond." (see prior Signpost coverage).
  • Wikipedia is not a valid vehicle registration: El Litoral and El Libertador report that two individuals were arrested in Esquina, Corrientes while in possession of a stolen car. According to the reports, police pulled over the car after it matched a description of a vehicle that had recently been stolen, and they were presented with documentation that was inconsistent with the vehicle identification numbers that were stamped into the vehicle. After realizing this, per the reports, the officers scanned a barcode on the document. The barcode provided the officers with a link to Wikipedia, and the two occupants of the vehicles were swiftly arrested. –R
  • Lerner's first attempt at fiction?: Lit Hub may have taken Ben Lerner's quote from his recent short story in Harper's too literally. "All of these examples are fake, but can stand for the ones I made, the bedbugs I released into the linguistic furniture. It was my first attempt at writing fiction," Lerner wrote about his self-confessed Wikipedia edits. See this issue's Disinformation report for further coverage.



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  • By my count, Asticky received 14 barnstars. Maybe I'm just being grumpy here, but I thought the point of barnstars was for notable service, not the changing of a tense by an editor who has not otherwise contributed much. In this case, what seems to be rewarded is being the fastest to make an edit that others would surely have made. Opencooper (talk) 14:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • On George Santos, The Guardian could have made it clear that "Wikipedia biography" meant his user page, as the term is ambiguous. I would hope that his actual article never made the claim that he acted in Hannah Montana.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm actually a little disappointed, but afaict, it didn't. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:09, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    If you read Smallbones' February report, you will see that he tried to create a mainspace bio with the Hannah Montana untruth, but was stopped by an edit filter. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:13, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    "He" being Santos, not "Smallbones"! - Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I would love to hear the story on why we have a Hannah Montana edit filter ;-) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:24, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: actually, it's nothing so interesting as that; the edit was blocked for shouting. Compassionate727 (T·C) 23:02, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just wanted to note that Avieson, the author of the Saturday Paper article about the Bhutanese nuns who helped improve Wikpedia, is an user herself, who goes by the nickname Doctor 17: thank you so much for what you've taught to them, it's incredibly inspiring! Oltrepier (talk) 21:31, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, just to clarify: the Wikimedia Foundation has been accepting Apple Pay donations on the web since 2021 which is when the linked article was posted. What's new this year is that users of the Wikipedia App on iOS can now donate using native Apple Pay without leaving the app. Peter Coombe (WMF) (talk) 20:49, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for clarifying. The 2021 news story made it into my search for new items, reported by another news site in November 2023, referencing the Apple Insider 2021 story; I short-circuited the link but didn't notice the stale date. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:18, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Spreading culture via Wikipedia, awesome work by Avieson and the nuns.Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 22:05, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    (Not a comment on the article itself, a general observation) Given what's going on in Bhutan, keeping a very close eye on the Dzongkha Wikipedia would be in order. The government is somehow able to get everyone to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain as they systematically imprison, torture, and ethnically cleanse the Lhotshampa. As we've seen with the Croatian Wikipedia fiasco, smaller wikis can be hijacked for pushing propaganda. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:14, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That might be difficult, inasmuch as there aren't that many Wikipedians fluent in written Dzongkha. At least to my knowledge. (And I doubt there is a translation program that supports that language.) -- llywrch (talk) 00:26, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why the AI image of people arguing? Was it too hard for an editor to pretend to argue with someone else in a photo? LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 01:10, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Why not? jp×g🗯️ 13:01, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Just my opinion but it's a silly image. I agree with LilianaUwU about using better images in the future. Viriditas (talk) 09:17, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]