Reviving the discussion (sorry if this is a faux-pas). I guess the logical thing to do would be to create a sub-page on WP:CVG listing users and issues of certain magazines they have. Separate lists of content in those magazines can be supported elsewhere on the page (most magazines list content in backissue listings, but we will have to make a point to document every game reviewed). Then, as editors write, they can stop in to check if the topic in question is covered in a magazine and move from there by asking an editor for information. How's this? --Zeality 03:22, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
When you do find somewhere to put it, remember to put a link to it back here for all of us lurkers who are interested but haven't said anything. - X201 09:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
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Here it is. The next step for me is to go through all my issues and check out the back issue listings to document what info's covered in certain volumes at /Magazine. If anyone jumps on board, be sure to list every game recovered under a volume. Right now, I'm planning on follow a simple format like this example:
==Nintendo Power==
My only question is, should we wikify the game titles? At first I thought it might make the page look uglyish, but I realized it might be convenient for certain editors who can use "What links here" to see if something from /Magazine pops up. But the chance of someone actually doing that versus just going to the page from WP:CVG and searching with his or her browser is slim. --Zeality 17:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused by the general layout of this, I would have instead arranged the entire page purely by user instead of trying to arrange by user and by magazine. You will get some redundancy if 2 people have the same magazines, but it means it'll be easier to find out who to contact for a specific magazine. Here's an Example:
Issue 12 (January 2005) - Current
Issue 01 (March 1999) - Issue 14 (March 2000)
How about something like this?...
Magazine Name | ||||||
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Issue | Year | Month | Games | Features | Available as | User(s) to contact |
27 | 1984 | May | Frogger, Zaxxon, Sensible Soccer | Ocean software feature, The making of Bear Patrol | Can Scan & PDF | Fred, Bert |
28 | 1984 | June | Jet Set Willy, Hunchback | Adventure games feature, | Retype from magazine | Bert |
Something like this for each magazine would make searching for the info easy. - X201 10:57, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I've copied some of the info from the project page into the table to show how it would look with real data in it. - X201 09:44, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Next Generation Magazine | ||||||
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Issue | Year | Month | Game Reviews | Features | News | Contact |
14 | 1996 | In the Hunt, NBA In the Zone, NFL Gameday, Space Griffon, Toukon Retsuden, Zero Divide, Loaded, X-COM: UFO Defense, F-1 Live Information, Hang On GP '95, Virtua Fighter 2, Sega Rally Championship, Virtua Cop, High Velocity, Captain Quazar, Bust a Move, PO'ed, Battlesport, PGA Tour Golf '96, The Last Bounty Hunter, Baldies CD, I-War, Battlemorph CD, Handball 5, Empire 2: The Art of War, Entomorph, Hexen: Beyond Heretic, TekWar, Destruction Derby, Abuse, Beavis and Butt-head, Caeser II, Revolution X, Mark Davis' The Fishing Master, NBA Live '96, Yoshi's Island: Super Mario World 2, Peter Jacobson's Golden Tee 3D Golf, Soul Edge | Featured: "Ultra 64: Nintendo's shot at the title", "Psst! Wanna buy a game system?" (Sega Saturn & Sony Playstation Marketing Campaigns)
Interview: "Is Ultra 64 as good as Silicon Graphics claims?" (George Zachary, Silicon Graphics) |
"Will Ultra 64 launch on April 21?", "32-bit gaming drops in price" (3DO price drop), "Pippin Japanese launch planned", "Playstation immersive headset planned", "Joyriding: Where are the women in cyberspace?", "Arcadia: Arcade Industry Hits Bottom" | Mitaphane | |
15 | 1996 | In the Hunt, NBA In the Zone, NFL Gameday, Space Griffon, Toukon Retsuden, Zero Divide, Loaded, X-COM: UFO Defense, F-1 Live Information, Hang On GP '95, Virtua Fighter 2, Sega Rally Championship, Virtua Cop, High Velocity, Captain Quazar, Bust a Move, PO'ed, Battlesport, PGA Tour Golf '96, The Last Bounty Hunter, Baldies CD, I-War, Battlemorph CD, Handball 5, Empire 2: The Art of War, Entomorph, Hexen: Beyond Heretic, TekWar, Destruction Derby, Abuse, Beavis and Butt-head, Caeser II, Revolution X, Mark Davis' The Fishing Master, NBA Live '96, Yoshi's Island: Super Mario World 2, Peter Jacobson's Golden Tee 3D Golf, Soul Edge | Featured: "Ultra 64: Nintendo's shot at the title", "Psst! Wanna buy a game system?" (Sega Saturn & Sony Playstation Marketing Campaigns)
Interview: "Is Ultra 64 as good as Silicon Graphics claims?" (George Zachary, Silicon Graphics) |
"Will Ultra 64 launch on April 21?", "32-bit gaming drops in price" (3DO price drop), "Pippin Japanese launch planned", "Playstation immersive headset planned", "Joyriding: Where are the women in cyberspace?", "Arcadia: Arcade Industry Hits Bottom" | Mitaphane |
I think it looks pretty good. Question: Is there a way to have table automatically collapsed, like the templates for game series (example)? I'm thinking once we put in all this info in table form it will get pretty lengthy. Mitaphane talk 18:44, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
How about magazines in other languages? I have a lot of old german magazines (ASM, PowerPlay, PlayTime), would those be relevant for the english Wikipedia too? I'm not aware of a german version of this WP, but even if there is one, it might be preferable to have a list of available magazines/articles in a central location. Darkstar 20:55, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Would it be worthwhile to have a section with links to sites that actually contain reviews from or even scans of magazine pages? For example, amigapower.com has nine full issues already scanned in for anyone to look at, so there would be no need to ask anyone for information in them. I'll see if I can find more sites like that and create this section, if nobody objects. --ADeveria 12:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I've gone ahead and added the section. Feel free to add to or re-format at will. --ADeveria 15:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I've created the template over in the template section so now adding ((User WPCVGm)) on any page will do the job and show this
This user is a member of the Video Games Reference library Project. |
There was a bit of a typo in the previous box, clicking on it took the user straight into page editing for some reason. - X201 14:21, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
It might also be useful to include books in this project, since they can also provide a useful reference to use in gaming articles. It would be nice to know which users have access to which books. 217.117.171.114 17:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I had my first "customer" yesterday. It was our very own Thunderbrand making use of the system, but it set me thinking. To publicise the project, what if our "fee" was a banner to be placed on the discussion page of any article we've helped? I'm thinking of something along the lines of This project has been helped by the Computer and video games/Magazines project. - X201 08:12, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
This may be futile, but if anyone knows off the bat that he or she has an issue of a 1991 magazine covering Final Fantasy 4, we need it at the FAC. The nomination is under fire for not having enough print sources. --Zeality 12:59, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I have a smattering of earlier issues of Nintendo Power and then all of them from around 1994 onward. I also have a Nintendo Power index which came with one issue and it has a bunch of information for ones that I don't own physically. I'll add them all eventually, but until then if anyone has specific requests feel free to let me know. Andre (talk) 17:50, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Glancing over my entries, I've realized that listing items for Classified Information and Counselor's Corner is basically useless. The only citable information would be secret codes or help in defeating certain areas. At the most, the counselor's corne could be used to justify that a particular part of the game was hard. I'm thinking about dropping these sections from the listing. --Zeality 22:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm cross-posting this at the main CVG talk page, but thought the wider WPCVG community might benefit from it.
Now that Computer Gaming World is changing their name, the entire back catalogue of first 100 issues' worth of CGW articles has been posted for free download at FileFront, here. It's a pretty huge collection of free content, and provides both interesting historical information and an accessible source of facts for articles that touch on its subject matter. Personal computer game will be received some new citations from this source, and I hope it helps improve some other articles as well.
Unfortunately, these are extremely large PDF files - Issue 1 alone is fourteen megabytes. I'm downloading them all now, though, and would be happy to start a torrent if necessary. Daveydweeb (chat/patch) 06:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
This isn't truly magazine related, so I'm not sure where to post this. These are some sources I found while working on Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon's FAC (which is still up if you'd like to review).
Japanese reviews are difficult to come by. We encourage anyone with copies of Famitsu to please volunteer them here. There are also a few online resources for reviews:
--Zeality 22:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm not too familiar with the American game magazine market and recently came across a print mag called Hardcore Gamer Magazine. They have all their content online as well in pdf format at http://www.hardcoregamer.com/ . I've just downloaded a few issues, sizes range from around 25Mb up to 50Mb. Personally, I think the magazine's a bit shit, without any editorial control over the layout and art compared to say Games TM and Edge which makes for a cluttered look and messy read. But they have some interesting features, and is a free reliable source. - Hahnchen 22:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been wondering for awhile, is there any specific order game titles should be listed in? I'm not saying it's really that important, I'm just wondering... --Dinoguy1000 Talk 05:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps it is a good idea to add something to the cvgproj template to indicate that a game is listed on this page. Something like "A magazine source that can be used to improve the verifiability for this article has been listed on the CVG magazines page". Also, this page is becoming extremely long, perhaps it would be a good idea to split the page into subpages per magazine. Although it would then no longer be possible to search for games on this page since they would be split, a google search limited to this page could still be used to search this page and any subpages. For example, a search for "Knights of Carnage". It would be easy to create a search bar plugin for firefox (qnd ie7)to handle this.. JACOPLANE • 2007-01-14 17:41
Does anyone have access to Retro Gamer magazine? This is the issue I'm looking for, specifically the 'Creating Chaos' article which I'd like to use as a reference for Chaos (video game). Marasmusine 12:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I need a bit of a favor. Does anyone have access to back issues of Game Informer? Specifically, the January 2006 issue? I'm trying to whip Radiata Stories into shape (I know, a long way to go yet) but I threw away my old issues and want a proper citation in the Reception/Criticism section. Any help would be much appreciated. I x-posted this request at the Game Informer talk page. As an advanced thank you, I added info and helped do some cleaning of the Game Informer page. :) Chevinki 01:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Do anyone have this volume of Smart Computing? Needed for action game article expanding. Hołek ҉ 14:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Since the project page does not list it, and I have exhausted all other means of finding it, I thought I would ask here. I am looking for this issue of Computer Gaming World. Particularly, I need excerpts of any and all negative comments made in their System Shock review. I'm fine-tuning the article before FAC, and a little negative criticism of the game is the only thing left to add. If anyone has access to this issue, I would greatly appreciate it. JimmyBlackwing 22:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have a copy of Electronic Gaming Monthly with the reviews of The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages? They were released in North America in May 2001. Please drop me a line on my talk page if you do. Thanks, Pagrashtak 00:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I reckon this is a great idea, but it would be better if more people knew of it. How's about putting links to this project page on the wikipedia pages for all the different gaming magazines? That way if someone goes to look at them it could say something like "Do you have a copy of any issues of this magazine? The wikiproject video games magazines could use your help." etc. Might spread awareness of this. Doom jester 07:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Anyone wanting to see anything from any old Amiga magazines should probably look here:
There are masses of scans of Amiga magazines there. Maybe we could have something on the main page about the site, because it seems to have a seriously large amount of Amiga stuff on. Doom jester 11:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I`m searching couple of days for one particular game. I bought it couple of years ago, so it`s not easy to get it. It was on a german game pack called "PC games".Main....demo(I think) on this cd was warcracft 2.But I can find it now. and about this game.I don`t remember it`s name and that`s the main problem. All I know that it is something like buddies, buddle, bondes, etc. I think it starts with "B" It`s a simulation game.I don`t know what it is about.You start on a green land, with couple of "people" and a house.On the other land there are your enemys.I thinkthe point is to increasy you population and technology to kill enemy. Later in the game you can build bridges, set traps, even invent guns and wings to fly. It`s quiet lively.You can build new houses, set traps, etc. And you are a god-like hand, so you use a pick and drop method to do things. any idea, tips, help, and anything that will help me get this game, please post on my talk page or here(cause I`m new here and don`t know how all od this works), thanks Dilando 10:00 9.July.2007
Thanks for help but I didn`t find it. I checked years 1991-1998 in english and german but none were familiar to the one I`m searching for. For now it seems that I`m the only one who had it.Can somebody else help? Dilando 19:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
It sounds like something in the vein of Populous to me. Andre (talk) 08:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but none of above. I`m looking for simulation and all three of them are strategy types. It`s closer to settlers, but there is no menu in it.Also it`s god like, past paced game. People there a similar to those in settlers.Round, little puffy, cute.When they die, the fly to heaven.At beginning there is not much to do, but later, when both island are connected, it`s hard to control everything.Oh, there are also rabbits, wolf, snake, birds, fishes....I remember that I can grab a rabbit with my hand, and lay it near a wolf, and it is eaten.Little sadistic, but that was only thing I understood :D beside, are Populus, settlers and Mega lo mania a german games?Dilando 16:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
hmm....not really, cause I don`t know german myself, but i checked that link above, about games from 1995 in english and german, and also I checked years from 1991 to 1998 in both languages and still nothing.Dilando 09:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
don`t worry, finally found that game called baldies by creative edge.Dilando 16:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I've been adding to the Official Nintendo Magazine section lately, but it seems to have merged tables with Nintendo Power. Will somebody fix this please? I don't know what's happened. Ashnard Talk Contribs 11:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)