Vicidatis semper semperque auctis, haec capsa sub rubricis inferioribus "Officium" et "Laurae" res plurimas praebere solet linguis barbaris scriptas, aegre utilibus. Ergo ad interim has rubricas celavi. (Talem rem et in aliis capsis informationis facere possumus.) Si haec mutatio tibi displiceat, s.t.p. placita tua hic inscribe! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:47, 10 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why do contributors keep using the Defaultsort formula? The Lifetime formula is more efficient, saving bytes by compressing the dating and automatically specifying Mulieres or Viri as appropriate (without the need for coded categorization of the distinction)? Efficiency in coding is generally held to be a virtue. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:20, 14 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Mulieres" and "Viri" are added because of the interwiki link at Wikidata, not because of these magic words. But I quite agree with you that LIFETIME is briefer. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:55, 16 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
novam categoriam Categoria:Ius creare, quae loco categoriae hodiernae "Iurisprudentiae" ad categorias barbaras "Law" et "Droit" [etc.] adnectanda erit?
In wikipaedia Anglica, "Jurisprudence" est subcategoria categoriae "Law," quae revera nos monet: "Pages in this category should be moved to subcategories where applicable." Ergo ut videtur, subcategoria "Iurisprudentia" non delenda est, et categoria "Ius" creanda est. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 00:24, 17 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Recte quidem mones! Quomodo creantur categoriae? Quaeso ut mihi ignoscatis, nam numeror adhuc inter homines quos Angli vulgo vocitant "noobs" (Heri tantum inveni instrumentum "HotCat"...). Placentinus (disputatio) 06:54, 17 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Si consentimus categoriam "Iurisprudentia" novo nomine "Ius" baptizare, deinde novam subcategoriam "Iurisprudentia" creare, deinde aliquas paginas in novam subcategoriam singultim movere, facile erit, hoc modo:
categoriam nostram "Iurisprudentia" e Vicidatis pro tempore delere;
Non sum sic peritus de his disciplinis ut sententiam meam habeam (tantummodo scio vocabulum “iuris” esse antiquius vocabulo “iurisprudentiae”), sed si categoriam creamus credo motiones esse gerendas quamque paginam ponderando, quia aliquae commentationes ambas categorias requirere possint. --Grufo (disputatio) 17:06, 17 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Recte dicis, Grufo: vide iam meam rubricam #5 supra. Categoria mota, nova categoria creata, certe licet paginas aut una categoria, aut binis categoriis, munire.
Addere "nexum linguarum" nequeo paginae cui index est Danaë imbrem aureum accipit (Titianus), quia – pro dolor! – mihi non licet inceptum exsequi: «You do not have the permissions needed to carry out this action.»
@Andrew Oportet 50 recensiones apud Vicidata habere ad nulli obstructioni occurrendum, at usores sine 50 recensionibus concessionem specialem petere possunt. Ego concessionem specialem petivi quae recusata est, quia ipsa petitio fuit mea quinquagensima recensio. --Grufo (disputatio) 23:05, 17 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
((res|Ars coquinaria)) est... (in loco scriptionis '''Ars coquinaria''' est...)
((ires|In vino veritas)) est... (in loco scriptionis '''''In vino veritas''''' est...)
((subres|Apparatus computatralis)) est... (in loco scriptionis ''Apparatus computatralis'' est...)
vel ((tres|(instrumentum) '''computatorium'''))... (in loco scriptionis vel (instrumentum) '''computatorium'''...)
Duae sunt commoditates his formulis utendi:
Cum paginam recenseamus lemma princeps e vicitextu melius eminet
Hae formulae notam HTML <dfn>...</dfn> adhibent (de hac vide hic), quam robota interretialia et “screen readers” melius intellegere possunt
Nota bene: Hae formulae non sunt in locum '''...''', '''''...''''' et ''...''in aliis casibus substituendae, sed sunt adhibendae in casu lemmatis principis tantum.
Hmm, hoc in exemplo neque qua lege Apparatus computatorius litteris italicis scribatur scio, neque ad quem usum "(instrumentum) computatorium" in formulam includatur! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:47, 20 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fortasse exemplum non est clarum. ((Subres)) est cum lemmate principi cuiusdam partis vel capituli paginae adhibenda (nonne est nostra norma typis italicis haec lemmata scribere?). E.g.
((res|Lemma)) est bla bla bla ...
== De sublemmate 1 ==((subres|Sublemma 1)) est bla bla bla bla...
== De sublemmate 2 ==((subres|Sublemma 2)) est bla bla bla bla...
Gratias: intellego. Dicis: "nonne est nostra norma typis italicis haec lemmata scribere?" Nescio an regulam habuimus. Incertus sum, an tales locutiones re vera "lemmata" sunt eadem lege qua tituli paginae Vicipaedicae ... sed de occasione rara loquimur et de re minoris momenti :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:58, 20 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At nonne est hic usus enormis formularum ((qc)) et ((ec)), quae ad membra bibliographiae nectenda sunt adhibendae? Typis ignoratis (si typos graves praeferimus formulam mutare possumus), haec recensio ostendit quemadmodum formula ((Subres)) adhiberi possit ad nexus per argumentum |ancora= creandos (talis recensio corrigenda est, quia et “Sagittarius A orientalis” et “Sagittarius A occidentalis” iam sunt nomina capitum et ergo iam nomina quoque ancorarum). “An melius est, sicut hoc casu feci, non vocabula in textu sed rubricas respectivas internectare?”: Ita, melius est capita et non lemmata nectere! (disputatio) 11:09, 21 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
De sublemmatibus. Vicipaedia Anglica sublemmatibus typos graves adsignat:
Terms which redirect to an article or section are commonly bolded when they appear in the first couple of paragraphs of the lead section, or at the beginning of another section (for example, subtopics treated in their own sections or alternative names for the main topic – see § Article title terms, above).
Idcirco apud paginam “Sagittarius A” formulam ((Res)) in locum formulae ((Subres)) substitui, quia et Sagittarius A orientalis et Sagittarius A occidentalis sua capitula habent. Sed in pagina “Computatrum” credo Apparatum computatralem typis italicis scribendum esse (per formulam ((Subres))), quia capitulo suo caret. Sed revera hoc ad rem minoris momenti attinet. --Grufo (disputatio) 00:29, 22 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi UV. I do not know all the details, all I can say is that I appreciate the current change of background color during mouse hover. I even imitated the effect in the ((Ancora tacita)) template, but only after click.
On that note I have a question. Here are four different ways of creating anchors,
As you can see, when you hover above “foobar1” and “foobar2” nothing happens. Instead, when you hover above “CITEREFfoobar1” and “CITEREFfoobar2” the background color changes. Furthermore, if you click on “foobar1” and “CITEREFfoobar1” nothing else happens (besides the page reaching the anchor), but when you click on “foobar2” and “CITEREFfoobar2” instead the background color of the nearby “Lorem ipsum” changes for some seconds. So my question is: How can I make the behavior of “CITEREFfoobar2” the standard behavior of ((Ancora tacita)) and other similar templates? Can it be done? --Grufo (disputatio) 00:43, 24 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The background color change on click for some seconds, as you know, is the result of Formula:Ancora tacita/style.css. The background color change on hover is the result of "Reference Tooltips", which might be about to be replaced with "Reference Previews". I do not think that there is an easy way to add this behaviour to ((Ancora tacita)). --UV (disputatio) 23:44, 24 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is interesting news, @UV:. It was very kind of you to create the templates we currently have for linking references displaying tooltips, and in theory it will be still better if the display capability can be centrally maintained for the future. We'll have to see how the programmers respond to your concerns. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:16, 24 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see that the response was not promising, @UV: it's nice that one of them is a Latin lover, but they are interested in their new tasks, not in our problem. Do you have an opinion about what we should do?
My own quick reaction is, let's not change to Reference previews just yet, but only change later if needed to ensure central maintenance. (a) Is this choice possible, (b) is it advisable, (c) would we already be losing some advantages from Reference Previews? You probably understand the constraints better than I do, UV.
I think Spanish and English wikis are currently on Reference tooltips, as we are, and it seems to work well. I think German and French wikis are on Reference previews. On fr:Winston Churchill (for an example) Reference previews does not adapt fully to the complex and inconsistent footnoting): worse, if I go to "preferences - gadgets" and choose Reference tooltips instead, I then get no tooltips at all. On de:Winston Churchill the footnotes are well suited to Reference previews: it works OK, although the footnotes have to be long and repetitive because they do not refer on to the bibliography. On de:wiki I see no way to choose Reference tooltips instead. I think some other wikis may decide not to move immediately to Reference previews, or, if they move, will find it less helpful. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:22, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given the unfavorable response at meta, I support your proposal not to change to "Reference Previews" just yet. We can stick with "Reference Tooltips" as long as the "Reference Tooltips" gadget works. Since "Reference Tooltips" is a "default gadget" on enwiki, it will probably continue to work for quite a long time. So my answer to your questions is (a) yes, (b) in my view yes, and (c) anyone who prefers "Reference Previews" over "Reference Tooltips" can easily go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and disable the "Reference Tooltips" gadget, which will automatically enable "Reference Previews" for this user. Greetings, --UV (disputatio) 23:52, 3 Februarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Debemus lingua nostra consensum indicare. Date veniam, o amici Latinistae, quia usque adhuc UV egoque Anglice de hac re disputavimus (nam Reference tooltips i.e. fenestrellae notarum subiunctarum adiutoriae, apud nos me postulante, UV agente, instauratae sunt). An nobis permittitis in hoc consilio pergere? Si dissonantiam videre vultis, videte en:Winston Churchill et fr:Winston Churchill et supra indices notarum subiunctarum (e.g.10, 16etc.) cursorem tuum movete. Systema nostrum, quod cum systemate Anglico correspondet, hoc tempore retinere suademus. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:03, 4 Februarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Negligence in fighting against cross wiki vandals[fontem recensere]
You are, I think, talking about one discussion page on which a message, not obviously vandalistic, not obscene, remained peacefully for a few days. Evidently you are not fully informed of the scale of the recent attacks here: if you knew more, you would possibly reconsider the term "negligence".
This is a small wiki, and it has been difficult, but we do our best. Several stewards have been very helpful and, as one of the admins concerned, I'd be happy to discuss this further with them. They can easily get in touch with me on my talk page, or continue the discussion here. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:28, 24 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your talk page is protected from IPs, so we talk here. I repeatedly reverted this above LTA in other wikis especially. Links which once were at NOW deleted "Disputatio:Pugilatio (moderna)" talk page are nothing but GARBLED spam links from already ISP-deleted hate site by GRP named:
ƃɹo˙ǝɯǝɹdnsɐıpǝdoꞁɔʎɔuǝ˙ʍʍʍ
If you see something with it, delete it immediately, please.
I understand, of course. I know who added the information, I know that it is useless. I (like you, no doubt, and many others) was getting multiple obscene threats from the same person. I am also hearing once again from "Wikinger", a pen-friend of "Chicago boys". How nice! The WMF has "banned and blocked" both persons, but the WMF legal department has refused any help to me.
So, left alone by the WMF legal department, I tried an experiment. If I allowed this anonymous, useless, but not vandalistic, message to remain on a talk page (talk pages, after all, contain many other relatively useless and irrelevant messages) would I be named in fewer obscene semi-literate summaries? Would Vicipaedia get less vandalism for a few days? Yes, in fact, for those few days, it worked.
I have no sympathy for the WMF, its bans and its lawyers, since they have no sympathy for me. But I have lots of sympathy for the stewards and cross-wiki patrollers, who deal with far more of this stuff than I do. So, since you ask me not to run such an experiment again, I won't. Just keep on watching us, please! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:25, 24 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Grufo: I'm sorry, this will seem very unhelpful, but my inclination, when a wiki argument has become so heated that you can't stir it with a spoon (metaphor based on en:Porridge), is to walk away from it for about two years. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:43, 27 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Andrew, probably I will. But whether for two years or one day will depend on the fact that I am the only one discussing or not. If I remain the only one, it will probably be two years. --Grufo (disputatio) 09:48, 27 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Succurrite mihi! Non scio quomodo paginas formula "paginae autotranslatae" ornatas inveniam ut videam num interim rescriptae/emendatae sint. Itaque apud Kamo no Chōmei addidi formulam de latinitate. Cui bono bella formula nova de autotranslatione si paginas ita signatas rursus detegere non possumus? - Giorno2 (disputatio) 16:45, 1 Februarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Paginae quae hac formula utuntur in Categoria:Latinitas -7 (non latine) numerabuntur. Postremo, ab octavo die post tempus Vicipaedianum quod argumentum |tempus=((subst:REVISIONTIMESTAMP)) statuit, aut ab octavo die post ultimam recensionem si argumentum |tempus=((subst:REVISIONTIMESTAMP)) omittitur, in Categoria:Correctiones neglectae quoque numerabuntur.
Optime vir! Scio paginas autotranslatas apud "Categoria:Latinitas -7 (non latine)" inveniri. Tamquam FORMULA. Sed nullo loco est elenchus singularum paginarum istarum! Ita examen de paginarum emendatione fieri non potest quia eas non iam in promptu habemus. Nam tunc tantummodo Formula:Pagina autotranslata aut Formula:Pars autotranslata apparet, FORMULA sed non CATEGORIA. Propositum tuum de CATEGORIA creanda laudo. Etiam est necesse omnes paginas vetustiores FORMULA signatas in CATEGORIA (nova) esse. Gratias! Giorno2 (disputatio) 03:18, 2 Februarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Optime. Postremo categoriam novam creavi et formulas redintegravi. P.S. Multae paginae autotranslatae iam deletae sunt; nunc duae paginae tantum formulam ostendunt, quarum una est in spatio nominali usoris. --Grufo (disputatio) 04:13, 2 Februarii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Salvete omnes, possitisne me et alios in viclibris adjuvare? Peto aut petimus ius administratoris in Vicilibri, ad editionem paginae primae et cetera. Non multi si iam contribunt, ergo spero invenire hic alios quos latine curant et consilium nostrum confirment. Si velis adjuvare aut confirmare, quaeso hic in Porta communis vicilibrorum commenteris. JimKillock (disputatio) 11:00, 14 Aprilis 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Scripsit Andreas: "optime, sed fontem nominis Latini Changanum frustra (usque adhuc) quaesivi." Here too, and apparently, the tempting Latin term Sianganum designates a city, "Siangyang," said to be on the Ham River in Huquan Province at longitude 129.16, that may be Xiangyang, on the Han River in Hubei Province, at longitude 112°07′19″E. Chang'an is on the Wei River. Confusing evidence, but let's register it here, in case it helps. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:44, 14 Aprilis 2024 (UTC)[reply]
sono un correttore di Wikipedia Italia e sto testando la versione "beta" della piattaforma. Essa include un traduttore per l'agevolazione della traslazione di una voce da una Wikipedia ad un'altra. Ho provato a portare qua, una voce scritta da me (Filippo Biagioli). Mi è stato fatto notare che la traduzione era tutta sbagliata. Quindi, visto che ormai l'avevo "tradotta" ho rifatto fare la correzione ad un traduttore professionista. Qualcuno può per favore vedere se adesso la voce va bene? Grazie Autunno2022 (disputatio) 16:59, 16 Aprilis 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pagina Specialis:Census (et idcirco, eamdem paginam imitando, etiam formula ((Annales/omnia mensis))) plures locutiones Anglicas ostendit. Ego velim ad linguam Latinam eas vertere. Hic subter sunt meae translationes propositae. Quid dicatis? Consensu invento, a nostro UV petere possumus paginam Specialis:Census redintegrare.
Nomen labens
Translatio proposita
Notio collecta
Paginae in spatio nominali principali
Commentationes
((NUMBEROFARTICLES))
Paginae
Paginae
((NUMBEROFPAGES))
Fasciculi
Fasciculi
((NUMBEROFFILES))
Recensiones paginarum factae ab initio Vicipaediae
Recensiones paginarum factae ab initio Vicipaediae
((NUMBEROFEDITS))
Usores relati
Usores relati
((NUMBEROFUSERS))
Usores activi
Usores activi
((NUMBEROFACTIVEUSERS))
Automata
Automata
((NUMBERINGROUP:bot))
Magistratus
Magistratus
((NUMBEROFADMINS))
Interface administrators
Architecti
((NUMBERINGROUP:interface-admin))
Grapheocrates
Grapheocrates
((NUMBERINGROUP:bureaucrat))
Censurae
Censores
((NUMBERINGROUP:suppress))
Stewards
Custodes
((NUMBERINGROUP:steward))
Account creators
Nominatores
((NUMBERINGROUP:accountcreator))
Importers
Importatores
((NUMBERINGROUP:import))
Transwiki
Transviciales
((NUMBERINGROUP:transwiki))
IP block exemptions
Usores remissi
((NUMBERINGROUP:ipblock-exempt))
Check users
Speculatores vel Exploratores
((NUMBERINGROUP:checkuser))
Push subscription managers
Purgatores
((NUMBERINGROUP:push-subscription-manager))
Users blocked from the IP Information tool
Usores expulsi
((NUMBERINGROUP:no-ipinfo))
Confirmed users
Usores confirmatiTranslatio retracta – vide infra. --Grufo vel + Usores probati
Sic equidem malim ut 'qui de se probationem dederint. Sed sermo Latinus mihi non patrius est, atque etiam si esset lingua per tot saecula ita mutata est ut nihil interesset. Errare possumː fac ut mavis. Certe usores confirmati' plane cum Francogallico "utilisateurs confirmés" congruit. An ita Cicero dixisset, alia quaestio. --Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus (disputatio) 16:13, 13 Maii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Novam formulam ((Movenda ad spatium nominale)) creavi ad paginas non idoneas signandas quae tamen multum studium auctoris praebent (hocmodo eius labor servabitur). In talibus casibus nova formula adhibenda est in loco formulae ((Delenda)). Spero hanc excogitationem fore utilem.
Exempla:
((Movenda ad spatium nominale|TitiusCaius))
aut (melius)
((subst:petitio|movenda ad spatium nominale|TitiusCaius))
Effectus:
Suadetur ut haec pagina ad spatium nominale auctoris moveatur
Haec pagina putatur non idonea ad Vicipaediam, sed ob longum laborem factum suadetur ut in loco deletionis ad spatium nominale auctoris auctricisve (TitiusCaius) moveatur. Novum nomen propositum est: Usor:TitiusCaius/Harenarium/Vicipaedia:Taberna. Sententiam tuam, quaesumus, profer in pagina disputationis.
Codex manuscriptus:
((Movenda ad spatium nominale|TitiusCaius|Harenarium 2/Lorem ipsum))
aut (melius)
((subst:petitio|movenda ad spatium nominale|TitiusCaius|Harenarium 2/Lorem ipsum))
Effectus:
Suadetur ut haec pagina ad spatium nominale auctoris moveatur
Haec pagina putatur non idonea ad Vicipaediam, sed ob longum laborem factum suadetur ut in loco deletionis ad spatium nominale auctoris auctricisve (TitiusCaius) moveatur. Novum nomen propositum est: Usor:TitiusCaius/Harenarium 2/Lorem ipsum. Sententiam tuam, quaesumus, profer in pagina disputationis.
Does Vicipaedia need articles on the hundreds of thousands of surnames that have served as forenames? Innumerable people have been named for figures familial and otherwise, especially political (see "Jefferson Davis" and "Washington Irving(en)"). An early nineteenth-century ancestor of mine bore the first name Wilkins—a puzzlement until genealogical research showed that it was the (maiden) surname of his great-grandmother. Should Vicipaedia therefore have an article on the name Wilkins? Why not? Where do we draw the line? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 15:26, 9 Maii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Encyclopaedias are not about names, they are about things. If it's names you want, you go to a dictionary of proper names, or various other kinds of dictionary, but not to an encyclopaedia. If Iacobus's ancestor is notable, the information can go in his biography; if not, it's not for us!
The anonymous user who makes articles about forenames has been told that they are out of scope. They do serve as discretiva pages if they link to at least two existing pages. On that basis, I have not so far deleted pages about forenames that are also discretiva pages. Their big fault is that they give dubious information on origins from dubious sources or none.
Articles about surnames should surely be deleted. Anyone who fancies making templates (!) could make one saying encyclopedia articles should be about things, not names; or such articles could be marked "delenda" with an explanation in the summarium. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:03, 13 Maii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I could make a template along the lines of what Wikipedia is not (not a dictionary, not a telephone directory, etc.). Something like “Haec pagina putatur non esse enciyclopaedica. Vicipaedia non est ... et cetera”. The problem is that I don't know how to say “telephone directory” in Latin :) Morgan suggests only index, album (but then I guess telephonicus/-um? – see under “.phon directory”) --Grufo (disputatio) 19:30, 13 Maii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe "repertorium telephonicum" would work?
You were quick to respond to that anonymized hint! It could be useful I think.
If we wonder whether cognomina belong to the future of Vicipaedia, it would be a good idea to look at Categoria:Cognomina (which are in fact Latin ones) and subcategories (all other languages) to see how they are used. If the pages have nothing much in common except that they are discretivae, then a basic question is, do we want eventual big discretiva pages like e.g. en:Bailey or do we consider them useless/out of scope? Could we realistically maintain them, or would they forever be incomplete? Would anyone come to Vicipaedia to look for that (unless, possibly, for Latin cognomina)? Would they ever be useful? In my view, if a user was looking for a certain "Bailey" having forgotten the forenames, a clever Google search would work better than trawling though a long list like the one on en:wiki.
Addition. Furthermore we would need to clarify when to use this template and when to use instead ((Gravitas dubia)). I think that a criterion could be this: if the topic falls among the points listed in ((Non Vicipaedia)), use ((Non Vicipaedia)), otherwise use ((Gravitas dubia)) (e.g. a poet – poets are certainly an encyclopedic topic! – whom only I know, because they happen to be my neighbour).
Since the English language is full of proper names derived from surnames (for exemple, Wayne is a surname in Ioannes Wayne and a forename in Wayne Gretzky and Wayne Rooney), I began creating some of these pages, like Grant or Scott. However, these pages are all about surnames and names, not surnames-only, without names. So, answering to IacobusAmor's question, Vicipaedia does not need articles on all the hundreds of thousands of surnames in the English language, only those that are used also as forenames and (possibly) middle names. 2.39.112.20313:44, 18 Maii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As mentioned, Wilkins has served as a forename, so you evidently think Vicipaedia needs an article on it, but the example in your next sentence seems to say it doesn't, on the grounds that Vicipaedia has no article on somebody whose forename is Wilkins, right? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:41, 18 Maii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are right. As for now, Vicipaedia only has two articles on personalities who bore Wilkins as their surname, not as a forename. 2.39.112.20307:46, 19 Maii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For example, Kennedy is the surname of eleven personalities with their own pages on the Latin Vicipaedia, but since there is not a single page in which it is used as a proper name, its page cannot be created. On the other hand, Ryan is used six times as a forename and at least four times as a surname, so it could have its page.
As a disambiguation with only one page is useless, several name pages simply cannot be created on Vicipaedia (at least for now), like Scarlett (only 1 page) or Athenodorus (0 pages). At the same time, a name page cannot be too short, or it would be a stub, so I think more than two existing pages is better. Regarding the sources for the etymology, I use Behind the name, sometimes the Online Etymology Dictionary and old books on Google Books. I think adding a source is always better than having none. If there are better sources you can suggest to all the Vicipaedian community, then we are happily waiting for your feedback.
Thanks for joining in the discussion. I fully agree that adding a source is better than having no source. I have no magic guide to reliable sources for the origin of forenames or surnames: it is a subject area in which truly reliable sources are hard to find.
It is questionable whether the "meaning" of a forename or a surname can be stated at all, and whether that meaning is relevant to its use in the names of individuals. In my case (I may as well use my case as example) Google tells me without hesitation that my forename means “strong” or “manly.” But that's not relevant to me, and it wasn't relevant to my mother or father. In general, the etymology of individual names is not necessarily relevant to the individuals who have those names. Even if the etymology and "meaning" of personal names can be cited to a reliable source, how is it relevant to an encyclopedia? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:43, 18 Maii 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ut historia servetur, post unionem paginarum, si nobis placet, in paginam disputationis paginae cui contribuitur (e.g.: Disputatio:Collyra) scribere possumus:
In data 6/7/2023 la pagina “Pasta vermiculata” è stata accorpata alla pagina allegata. Siamo grati agli autori e alle autrici di quella pagina elencati qui.
Haec formula est aliqua similis formulae ((Attributio)). Apud Vicipaediam Anglicam appellatur ((en:Merged-from)).
Si pagina contributa disputationes habebat et haec servatae sunt (e.g.: Disputatio:Pasta vermiculata), ibi scribere possumus: