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You caught me just as I was adding it to the article. I could upload a closer zoom in on the epicentre, as the original image was quite close to the site. Laïka 11:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
That's great. Is World Wind worthwhile having? I had a quick look, and noticed it involved downloading some software. SilkTork 13:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Please do not remove copyright violation notices from articles. They are there for a purpose. If you believe the article is not a copyright violation, then discuss it. However, as this time we cannot substantiate the permission.--Docg 19:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I think you may have made a mistake somewhere. SilkTork 19:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I see. There was an edit conflict. We were working on that at the same time. I edited the article so it was no longer a copyright violation. You added a tag. Hmmm. SilkTork 19:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
There was no tag when I was editing. Would you object to me removing the tag now. There is a deletion discussion taking place on this as well, and I have cleaned up the text. I did the edit cleaning before there was a tag so I have done the right thing. SilkTork 19:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I have gone for option a) as most of the editing had already been done. The new page is here: Endal. SilkTork 20:30, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Wow! many thanks for the barnstar!
I thought it might be best to bring the list to completion before submitting it for peer review.
Cheers. AndyJones 06:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
You can have more than one peer review, and reviews can hang around for a while without getting any response, so it can be good to get one off the ground early. But I know what you are saying. I just got so excited when I came upon List of Shakespearean characters and I wanted to share that with others. And also get other people involved in helping out - you've worked mostly alone on that for nearly two years. A magnificent achievement. SilkTork 08:18, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
The review is here: Wikipedia:Peer review/List of Shakespearean characters/archive1 SilkTork 08:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
This is one hell of a steep learning curve, guess practice makes perfect though! Don't throw in the towel yet as we will turn this page around till it is beyond criticism.
Most of us are sympathetic to your personal story, and we understand the importance to you of your relationship with Endal. However, as you have noticed, we have guidelines for what can be included on Wiki. I have been working to make the Endal article conform as closely to those requirements as possible. Dogs that have long pedigrees are not (at the moment, but things may change!) considered to be notable on Wiki. Wiki, however, is quite fluid, and there may be a time when pedigree histories are considered important enough for an entry. The reasoning behind the argument for inclusion of the Endal article on Wiki is not your relationship with the dog, nor its pedigree (it wouldn't matter if Endal was a mongrol), but that there is a considerable amount of media coverage. That the media coverage has been prompted by yourself has caused some alarm, and some questioning of the article - especially as you started the article on Wiki yourself. It just looks like a vanity thing - and we do get a lot of that on Wiki - some people don't quite get that this is an encyclopedia rather than a free home page for whatever they fancy putting on it! However, regardless of who started the article, I feel that the amount of coverage that has been generated by yourself for your dog gives it a certain amount of notability. As you are so close to the subject, there is the question of original research and other Wiki principles that may be broken. I would strongly suggest that you refrain from editing the article until you are more familiar with Wiki procedure - you may just push it into a decision for deletion either now or some point in the future (yes, Endal can be submitted for future considerations for deletion - passing the current discussion does not make it secure!). As you have some interest in dogs, would you be interested in looking at the current dog articles we have on Wiki (Category:Dogs) and seeing if you can improve those? Warm regards SilkTork 13:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for you latest. Though I have distributed articles about Endal, I am not the primary author. With permission (in lue of payment) I have rights to use articlea and images as needed. The media through seeing Endal put a card into the ATM one day elevated him to world wide fame, but his abilities have expanded incredibly. Saving my life by putting me into the recovery position only came to public attention as it was caught on CCTV but he had been doing it in the house for years. Part of the research of the film being made about Endal has shown that for the past eight years there has not been a week when an article about Endal has not appeared in a magazine or newspaper somewhere in the world. I wish I had the accurate number of dog owners there are world wide but it is becoming a recognised fact that the majority have heard of Endal, which even I have difficulty comprehending.
Your pointers and editing are greatly appreciated... especially after one feels bullied in to the ground by the WP guru(s). Once one realises though the reasons behind it all, the anger quickly turns to frustration and then to resolve the aim to achieve. Take care Endal and Allen 14:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I marked the attempts at train station guidelines as rejected because it's clear that nobody has any intention of following them. Mangoe 20:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I've marked it as an essay. I don't see it as a rejected guideline because it was never put to a vote. SilkTork 21:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC) And I still have hope! :) SilkTork 00:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
It varies. Sometimes I make a huge edit - other times I make a small one. I don't know in advance how much I will edit as it depends on circumstances. Sometimes I will only make one small edit to an article - other times I make more than one edit. Sometimes I will edit an article only once and never go back to it. Other times I will edit an article several times over a period of days. Some articles I will return to months later. Other articles I will never touch again. Sometimes I add things to an article. Other times I will take things away. Occasionally I will neither add nor take away, but may move something within the article. It really does vary. Regards SilkTork 15:24, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
SilkTork,
Good to see you're still around and doing marvelous work on beer stuff! I've been kind of on wiki-break for a while, although I've recently started making some edits again. The improvements you've made while I was away are pretty breathtaking.
One thing I've just started on, which may interest you since you were the one who originally created the page, is adding a bit of organization/layout to the beer collaboration page. You can see what I've done at Wikipedia:WikiProject Beer/WikiProject Beer collaboration, although I'm not sure it's anything to be proud of! ;)
Regardless of that, though, it's great to see all the progress that's happened -- seems like everything's changed instantly and dramatically for the better.
Anyway, I mostly just wanted to drop by and say "hi!" and I hope everything's well with you.
Bottoms up, --Daniel11 10:37, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I took a wiki-break for the later half of last year. I came back (though I had dipped in now and again) at the request of a few people. I have gradually been getting back into the beer editing, but I don't want to get into it too heavily as it can take over one's life! Nice to see you're still around (and still drinking!) SilkTork 16:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Steve,
You recently removed my cartoon from the 'Draught Beer' page. I haven't been using Wikipedia long but am trying to liven parts of it up with interesting pictures from my collection. Please forgive me if I am being arsey, but wouldn't it have been good manners to have asked me first? If I didn't think that it was 'appropriate' then I wouldn't have put it up there. Not only that but it is my favourite beer cartoon out of dozens I have, and I am sort of attached to it! I have lots of other beer pictures though (see www.lordprice3.co.uk) - which others might you consider more 'appropriate', or perhaps you just don't like pictures?
Best Regards
Lordprice 19:41, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for getting in touch. Your picture was a seaside postcard cartoon type picture which is perhaps more suited to a seaside postcard or a cartoon article rather than a draught beer article. Also it hasn't got a Free Documentation License - so there would be a question over its use on an article where the link is not clear. The cartoon contains a picture of a glass of beer, though we don't know if it is a bottled beer or a draught beer. And the focus is on over-indulgence rather than any quality or character of beer. Are you being arsey by saying I didn't have good manners when editing that article? I don't know - what does arsey mean? Is it this [1]? By the way, is the lordprice website yours? If it is I strongly suggest you read Wikipedia:Spam and look at this [2]. Have you used LordPrice pictures in other places on Wiki? SilkTork 22:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, The King Street Run has previously been nominated for deletion and kept (only last september). Your AFD tag is just pointing to the archived discussion. If you want to re-nominate it, you'll need to point the tag to some other place for a new discussion (and probably provide a link to the old discussion. --Ozhiker 08:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Yes, I noticed that this morning. I didn't know how to create a current nomination, and I ran out of time as I had to get to work. Would you be able to give me some advice on how to set up a current nomination? I haven't encountered this situation previously. By the by, the nomination was for September 2005. Interestingly the admin closing the debate felt that 10 deletes, 2 move, 4 keep was No Consensus. I've not previously encountered a 12 - 4 (that's 3 to 1) vote against keeping as a "No Consensus"! SilkTork 11:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
It's OK. I got it sorted! SilkTork 12:43, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Please don't redirect disambiguation pages - even if only one link is currently valid, the others will exist in time... Shimgray | talk | 23:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I was part way through my intention. Listing every ship that ever existed is not part of the Wiki purpose. My next stage would possibly be to list the HMS Hornet (1854) for discussion after some research to see if it stands up to notability. Possibly redirect to somewhere else, as I'm not always in favour of absolute deletions. There's usually a place for even the most trivial on Wiki - it's just a case of finding the right article to place the footnote. As for the disambiguation - well, I see no current purpose for it as it is simply a red list farm. But as you disagree I will now put that up for discussion. Regards SilkTork 07:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey SilkTork!
Next time you do a clean-up, do not remove all non-US information. That would be really nice. I am reverting the food court article to the state before you started "cleaning it up". Please be nice to others and accept that some information is info on daily life, and cannot always be sourced. In Singapore, food courts are part of daily life, everybody eats there every day (or sth close, you get my meaning). It's similar in the rest of SE Asia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snchduer (talk • contribs)
I've put it back to how it was before your revert. Not that I totally disagree with you - just that we need to work through to an agreed situation, and you moved it way back to a situation which was acknowledged to be in need of work and had been tagged as such. Let us take it back stage by stage in a manner that is acceptable to all. So - what exactly is your main concern with the current situation? That it is US biased? Based on what content? Currently it is neutral. The examples given of food chains who use food courts are both US and UK. We could add an Asian one as well if you like. Which one would you suggest? SilkTork 12:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey again!
Sure, let's talk here - not a problem. I admit that the article required a clean-up, but you reduced it to three (!) sentences. I understand that in the US (and UK), food courts are found exclusively within a shopping mall and consist of fast food outlets, such as McDo, BurgerKing, etc. Please understand that in Singapore, the situation is somewhat different: food courts are still mostly found in shopping centers. Outside shopping centres they are mostly called Hawker centres, although that distinction is not so sharp, consider for instance Lau Pa Sat. The main difference would be the air-conditioning, or otherwise said, the food court/hawker centre being inside or outside.
As mentioned in the uncrippled article, food courts and hawker centres consist of various food stalls, none of which belong to a Western fast food outlet. Each offers different food, going through all the varieties of South-East Asian cuisine (Chinese, Indian, Malay, Peranakan, Indonesian, Thai, etc.). I don't know how it is in the US, but here in Singapore the food courts are always crowded at lunch/dinner time, and I personally know enough people (including myself) that hardly cook, since getting food in a food court is almost as cheap and more convenient (maybe the difference is not so big? ;) ). There are only a few companies that operate the food courts (hawker centres are different), but the stalls are operated by individual owners, and each food court is different.
Again, the main points of difference US-Asia, in my opinion, here: fast food outlets <-> large variety of food stalls; (don't know) <-> part of daily life, replacing cooking; shopping malls <-> everywhere.
Yeah, btw I am European, not from around here originally.
Think Different 18:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for responding. Sorry for delay in my response - I've been away walking in North Wales. As there appears to be some desire for an article on Food courts I'm quite happy to continue working on it as a stand alone article. I have again tidied it up. There does need to be some research done to support the assertions made. I have removed repetitions and "on the spot" observations. I have left in, but tagged, the two basic claims. I have provided some references for the Lau Pa Sat - though there is no evidence that it is actually a stand alone food court. I only did a quick search, but what I found all pointed to Lau Pa Sat containing food vendors and restaurants and souvenir kiosks. So it is more likely to be a "food centre" or a market containing a large number of food courts. Take a look and see what you think. Regards SilkTork 22:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Hm - I have to say I have personally been at Lau Pa Sat, and believe it or not - it is a standalone food court. I remarked no souvenir kiosks in Lau Pa Sat itself, and there are no "restaurants", as in the European or American sense, only mini-restaurants. However, there is only little difference here between food stalls and mini-restaurants. The latter operate in a food court, the seating is not physically separated (or even largely different) from the general food court seating, but it is reserved for customers of this particular mini-restaurant only. They are sometimes also be a bit more "sophisticated" than food stalls, but as I said, I find the difference rather small. As I will be leaving Singapore soon (professional re-orientation), I will try to see if I can find some good sources for more validated info about SG foodcourts until then. Think Different 09:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Sources would be good. As you know, personal observation counts as original research, and is frowned upon. Good luck with the article. Regards SilkTork 20:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey. do you mind if I use the following cropped from your image SwanNeck.jpg for the article on Sparkler (device) I've started?:
J.P.Lon 01:01, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi. The image is not mine - I downloaded it from http://pdphoto.org/PictureDetail.php?mat=pdef&pg=6840. I had put that information on the image, but it wasn't clear, so I've updated the info to make it clearer. The owner appears to be happy for people to use his photo, though he does request a link back to his site. Regards. 07:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
The sparkler article is good. It could go in Beer tap to build up that article, and put together the various parts of the beer tap. Regards SilkTork 07:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I think I messed up your revisions. My mistake. NawlinWiki 17:26, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
No probs. I should have put up one of those work in progress tags - except I can never remember where to find it! SilkTork 17:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I see you've made a great improvement to the 85th Group article. I've taken away the the ((Inuse)) tag, as it is only intended to be put in place while you are actively editing to save edit conflicts. While it is up, it stops other editors from working on the article. You need to remove the tag when you stop editing for a period. Keep up the good work. Regards. SilkTork 17:52, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm very sorry I haven't had a chance to welcome you earlier, I have been incredibly busy lately. We are glad to have your help. Currently, we have really cut down the backlog of articles in need of copyedit. Therefore, a major goal at this moment is to identify new articles that are in need of work. When you run across them, be sure to tag them for copyediting.
If you have any questions at all, do not hesitate to drop me a line.Trusilver 16:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Evil can not create it can only destroy [3] Duggy 1138 09:40, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Well done on adding some references to the article. SilkTork 15:24, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, welcome to the team (sorry I've been a bit slow!). What do you fancy doing at 1.0? If you're a good copyeditor, this may be of interest - currently we have a lot of dreadful articles on important general topics. Although content is the main problem, many are also written as lists or simply need a good rewrite. Take a look, and let me know what you'd like to do. Thanks, Walkerma 04:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to participate at the discussion in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Wikipedia project. I listened carefully to all concerns, and will do my best to incorporate all of the constructive advice that I received, into my future actions on Wikipedia. If you can think of any other ways that I can further improve, please let me know. Best wishes, Elonka 05:07, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Would you be willing to reconsider your opinion at the Wikipedia:Village pump (news) thread? As the nominator I've been active at that board for a year and a half and I watched it decline steadily throughout 2007. I'm hardly a deletionist and I reviewed the last 5000 edits when another editor claimed the nom was hasty. I really don't think that's a fair characterization in this instance. DurovaCharge! 01:30, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I've had a look and agree with you that there has been a recent decline. My view though is that it should have been supported rather than diminished because of the impact this may have on the whole Pump project. I have given a fuller answer on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Village pump (news). Regards. SilkTork 09:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
As I have mentioned at Talk:List of borderless countries, a borderless country is an island country with no land border with any other country. Ireland, e.g., is an island country but not a borderless country. It shares the island with the UK. Other notable examples include Haiti and the Dominican Republic. The island of Cyprus is also shared by Cyprus and the UK sovereign base areas, and the unrecognised TRNC. Qaka 19:17, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Please do not remove protection templates from protected articles. A.J. Styles & ACCESS (TV channel) are both semi-protected and so the template belongs on them. If you wish to see either of these articles unprotected, please ask the protecting admin or make a request at WP:RFP. Removing the template does not affect the protection level. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. -- JLaTondre 17:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
You must not have seen the copyright notice on my user page. Well, I'll let it go this time. :) Baseball Bugs 19:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
The article has 1 paragraph 2 maximum on FAM outside the UK Chile is disease free,and Uruguay and Argentina have not had an outbreak since April 1994
I'm reading 14 paragraphs on F&M in general. 2 paragraphs dealing with the US (which hasn't had an outbreak for some time). 4 paragraphs dealing with F&M around the world. 4 paragraphs dealing with the outbreaks in the UK which have been internationally notable and have resulted in two stand alone Wiki articles.
I don't think there is undue focus on the UK - seeing as that is where attention is focused. Though I would like to hear more about the 1996 African and Asian endemic, I don't think the article is dealing "primarily" with the UK - I think it is dealing primarily with F&M.
We do have to be aware that the English Wiki is written mainly by English speaking Westerners living in the UK and the USA, and it is right that we have a tag that reminds us that there needs to be a global perspective. But it seems inappropriate to place the tag on this particular article which spends most of its time dealing with the disease, and then spends a fairly equal amount of attention on global F&M matters as it does on the most notable F&M outbreaks in recent years, which just happen to be in the UK.
To get an idea of the sort of article for which the tag was designed, take a look at Air Defense Identification Zone - there is no awareness in the article that other countries have air defense zones: [8] or air defence areas. SilkTork 21:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
You claim their is 4 paragraphs dealing with FAM around the world , there isn't there is the intro which is geographically neutral , then it deals with FAM in UK with a side note about ireland , the 2 paragraphs about the us are about vaccination and since the us government took the lead in this they are rightful mentioned.
This article needs to have sections about FAM outbreaks accross the world the UK FAM section need to be expanded indicating the outbreaks infected other countries A global view on FAM should included prevention , vaccination, responce to outbreaks.in UK, EU,US and further accross the global (Gnevin 21:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC))
There are mentions of the world beyond the UK in Symptoms and Vaccination as well as the intro. Please, take a closer look.
I genuinely wasn't aware you asked me any questions. Is "*How did they manage this?" a question for me to answer? Sorry, I thought it was a rhetoric question to make your point about how the article is not global enough. I cannot answer that question, nor the others.
This is really not that big an issue. If you want to leave the tag there, no problem. Regards SilkTork 21:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
You have recently deleted my website www.nottinghillcarnival.org.uk from the links for the Notting Hill Carnival.
This website carries up to date information on official Notting Hill Carnival events as provided by the organisers LHNC Limited as well as a comprehensive gallery of photographs taken each year from 1999.
The information on the "official website" is patchy - even this year's offering does not carry full details of the events. Many "official" events are not listed, times are not provided for the events that are listed, and a route map is not provided.
I believe that it is correct to list the official site, but where this site leaves significant gaps in the information it provides, the inclusion of alternative sites is justified.
On the grounds of commerciality, the website does not generate a profit after associated costs have been taken into account and I am not sure on what basis you distinguish my site from http://www.portowebbo.co.uk/nottinghilltv/carnival1.htm which appears to be an equally commercial site.
Incidentally, I am surprised that the link to the Notting Hill Carnival section of the RBKC website has also been removed, as whilst it does not organise the carnival per se, it is involved in certain aspects of the organisation of the carnival, is invariably the first site to confirm dates for the carnival each year, and provides valuable information about certain aspects of the carnival.
Regards
Mark Denton
Halden Photography
I've just checked portwebbo/myvillage.com - the site is quite widely used as sources on Wiki so appears to be acceptable by consensus. And I did have to change the date in the intro and so had to change the reference to your site. Sorry. If you feel that I have been unfair, and you'd like someone else to look at what I have done, then type ((helpme)) on your talkpage, and type the reason for your request for assistance. Someone will come along and check it out. Regards. SilkTork 15:40, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
My motivation for including the site www.nottinghillcarnival.org.uk was purely as a service to the visitors of the Wikipedia site. Traffic from Wikipedia to the site is fairly negligible in the context of my site traffic (Approx 0.5% of traffic in August 2006). But this site offers significan content in the form of information about the carnival together with an extensive gallery of images from the carnival and I consider it to be a worthwhile link. As regards the commerciality argument, the site is primarily a site of content with a limited amount of advertising to cover costs and the ability to purchase images if you so desire. It contains SIGNIFICANTLY less advertising than the Portowebbo site deemed acceptable. It is probably worth noting that the BBC includes links to my site ( See following page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/carnival/ ).
On the subject of the first carnival the source of my date was from this link http://www.thecarnival.tv/info/history1.htm (the official site back in 2001), but checking this date against other sources I agree that 1965 is more likely to be accurate and have amended my site accordingly.
As you appear to have taken on reponsibility for maintaining the Notting Hill Carnival article it is worth noting that this is an event where it is extremely difficult to find relevant updated information, particularly as the official website regularly changes. (Since 2000 the official sites have been www.nottinghillcarnival.net.uk, www.thecarnival.tv, www.nhct.org.uk, www.lnhc.org.uk, www.nhcarnival.co.uk, www.londoncarnival.co.uk, and www.nottinghillcarnival.biz.) I would strongly suggest that you monitor the links to ensure that they are up to date and wish you the best of luck in doing so. I would also invite you to visit the carnival this year so that you can experience the event first hand.
Regards
Mark Denton
As you are a photographer, and if you feel the Wiki project is one worth supporting, why don't you register, and upload some of your photographs. You'd have to agree to a free license for the images, but there's nothing wrong with you putting a link to your site on the image when you upload it - such as here: Image:GravityCask.jpg when I uploaded an image I requested from the late John White, and we included a link to his site in the description. SilkTork 22:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello, since you originally contributed to the discussion regarding the use of the Nazi flag in Fanta, I just thought you may be interested to hear that there is a new discussion now (See Talk:Fanta#Nazi_flag). Bye the way, for future reference I would not consider using polling as a method to obtain consensus, it is probably a better idea that disputes are solved via discussion, debate and collaboration. Cheers, Chris.B 10:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi there
We have been around the buoy a few more times than needed with regards to the inclusion of Endal's history in the main article. For any dog to have a traceable pedigree going back to the original dogs that started the line is unique in the dog world and merits inclusions in the article. Notable for a canine
"Endal is a pedigreed yellow Labrador registered with The Kennel Club. His pedigree can be traced back through 26 generations to Buccleuch Avon, the black dog born in 1885 which was bred by the Earl of Malmesbury[5] and given to the 5th Duke of Buccleuch. Avon was sired by Malmesbury Tramp x Malmesbury Juno, who are recognised as the pivotal dogs in the formation of the Labrador breed, tracing back to the early dogs imported by Lord Malmesbury from Newfoundland. Endal's Sire was Subar "Smart Move" (from the Lawnswoods breed line) and Dam "Subar Betterhalf" (from the Subar breed line)."
regards —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.79.226.29 (talk) 19:12:44, August 19, 2007 (UTC)
The article is about Endal's notability gained through publicity - that is the focus of the article, and the reason it survived the discussion to delete. The dog's pedigree history is a separate issue. That he is a pedigree Lab is good enough background. Information about the dog's parentage is a bit excessive. The nature of a pedigreed dog is that the parentage can be traced back at least three generations. Family backgrounds can be interesting. Bill Clinton's family background is fascinating, as it is not certain who is his father - given that the supposed father, William Jefferson Blythe III, was out of the country for several months around the time that Clinton's mother conceived. Note that even given the very assured notability of Clinton, and the interesting case of his parentage, that none of this material makes its way into the Clinton article. Well, maybe that would be too controversial and might invoke some Bio conflict. Anyway. I would suggest to keep the article on track with the established notability - the publicity. SilkTork 09:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I thought the image you removed (closeup of a stall) was appropriate for the article. From the existing images, one can't really see what an example of a stall is like. Would appreciate if you could reply at my talkpage, thanks. Chensiyuan 01:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
You just moved some templates on the Apple article, citing a bunch of MoS guidelines in the article summary. I don't believe this was correct; in particular, dambig and page protection templates always go at the very top of the article. I've undone this. Chris Cunningham 15:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
It was expandable; people were arguing to delete based on content, not subject (i.e. the article was nothing more than a list of names). I expanded the article to a full treatment of the subject and moved it to a title with a broader focus. To delete a totally different article which happened to share the same name as the old content up for deletion would be ridiculous. Johnleemk | Talk 07:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
"Categorically remove", to me, means to remove such sections just because they are trivia sections. You shouldn't do that, even if there are cases in which removing all the trivia is what you think is best to do. That's not saying that you shouldn't remove an entire trivia section all at once, but do it with regard to what's in there (and don't describe WP:TRIVIA as mandating that change). Myself, I like to remove trivia sections over several edits so I can record my different objections to different items... and so that if there are any worth preserving or integrating, people can see that edit separately in the history. Mangojuicetalk 12:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I support much of what you are trying to accomplish, but maybe we should take some baby steps? --Kevin Murray 19:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I know what you are saying. I hadn't originally intended to go straight to the project page. However, as discussions had been going on for a little while with a general consensus for a rewrite and potential merge, and I had been involved in those discussion there was precedent and consensus for a bold rewrite. That, and my own enthusiasm for what I had done, along with an awareness that discussion had stalled for a while, prompted me to make the move. I had expected some discussion, and that not all my changes would be accepted. However, I found Anon's revert rather surprising. But I assume that was simply an initial reaction and Anon had not read through all the changes. SilkTork *SilkyTalk 07:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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Woops thanks for bringing this to my attention. Normally an article can't be prodded twice, so the prod was out of line. I'll give it a second look and deal with it later (AfD, redirect, or speedy). If you merge some to Ailzée, just redirect the page there :). -- lucasbfr talk 14:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey! I was just wondering: I used the Welcome! template tonight, and it seems to have your sig in it. A line separating the instructions from the template itself had been removed accidentally by another editor, which I re-added, but I was just wondering if you were working on the template? --Kateshortforbob 20:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I hadn't purposely worked on it. I had placed it on someone's page, then noticed that my sig hadn't appeared. So I edited what I "thought" was the message on the user's page, but turned out to be the template itself. I've taken my sig out of the template now. Thanks for the heads up! SilkTork *SilkyTalk 07:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I know what you mean!!! Curiously, after using the ((Welcome!)) template I created one, the ((BeerWelcome)). I wanted to better understand how they worked. I can't do a clever one, but a simple one is surprisingly easy to make. Regards SilkTork *SilkyTalk 11:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Trying to do my best. -- Iterator12n Talk 15:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Pleases the hell out of me too! Regards. -- Iterator12n Talk 16:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 06:06, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi!
Thanks for Category:Juglandaceae. However, I am not sure that it is the best solution to sort the articles alphabetically according to the species epithet. After all, Carya, Pterocarya and other genera should also be placed under this category, so all Juglans species should ideally be under J. What do you think of this? Colchicum 20:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Do you believe or not believe in superstition? Please leave an answer and an explanation at my talk page. Pokemon Buffy Titan 09:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Please note that there is a long established agreed convention on wikipedia that bird species are always fully capitalised - see the bird project page. Jimfbleak 14:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
That's fascinating! I did a quick check and found that you are right. But I'm not so sure that ornithology convention is being correctly applied. Having had a quick look at a couple of ornithology websites and books I can see that the first mention of a bird has the name in capitals followed by the latin name - thereafter it appears that the name is given conventionally in lower case. Has there been a misunderstanding of the convention in the case of the Rook article - and the capitalisation been applied rather too rigidly? Regards. SilkTork *SilkyTalk 17:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I hope you don't take my revert of the "Don't be a dick" essay personally; I don't doubt for a minute that you were making a good-faithed attempt at improving the article, and don't want you to think that my revert was anything more disagreement with the content, and not with the "be bold" attitude that you showed.
Just trying to make sure there are no hurt feelings. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I suggest you take a look at Help:Reverting. The correct procedure would be to join in the discussion. I think it was clear from my comments that my edit was not the action of someone being disruptive. The problem now is that nobody in the discussion can clearly see how the essay stands with the wording adjusted. There was no need to panic. Wiki will still be here tomorrow even without the word "dick" in one essay. Pause, think and consider. Knee-jerk reactions don't look good for any of us, and, yes, can and do generate bad feelings. As I pointed out in my comments, the entire problem with this essay has been this word "dick", which as it turns out actually means "inconsiderate". Take a day to think about it. Regards! SilkTork 22:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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hey i was hoping u could mayb adopt me? cause im hopless at wkipedia and i would desperetely like to jazz up my user page. cya Lassie2501 04:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I got involved in Mitch Clem at AfD. Can you look at the references and let me know whether you think I'm right on his notability. He is not an important topic, but this illustrates an important application of the BIO and Notability rules. I think that the Minnesota Public Radio spot is just about enough, then the mention in PC World, while not in-depth clearly is saying this person is noticed. The other comixtalk source is marginal, but I think that it adds to credibilty. It appeares that Comixtalk has a blog section, but where he is covered is more akin to an online magazine in a scheduled and dated issue. Cheers! --Kevin Murray 15:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
It seems that the time has come to merge PROF into BIO. What do you think? --Kevin Murray 14:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I think you're barking up the wrong tree with your comments that Lar (the Checkuser) is '...reluctant to be as open about this affair as [he] could be'. He's bound by a number of policies – including Wikimedia Foundation resolutions – that sharply curtail the amount of information that he is allowed to share.
Relevant documents and policies include:
In general, a Checkuser will always err on the side of caution when considering what information garnered from a Checkuser – if any – to release to the community. Beyond protecting the privacy of community members, this policy also protects Wikipedia—discussing evidence in detail would give the determined sockpuppeteer hints on how to avoid getting caught.
Lar – and all Checkusers – are required to be trusted community members; in addition, they are required to provide proof of age and identity to the Foundation. They are expected to take their responsibilities very seriously, and are strongly discouraged from giving out too much information. If you are concerned that there is a problem with a Checkuser, you can contact the Foundation's Ombudsman commission. They will review Lar's actions, but I wouldn't expect them to hand out further information to you without a very good reason. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 23:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I checked because Doctorfluffy was blatantly a single-purpose account and AFD is a plague pit of sockpuppetry. Lar double-checked my results. Pilotbob was busted, utterly. There isn't a procedural appeal on the matter that means he gets to run sockpuppets because I didn't touch third base or something - David Gerard 15:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Several thoughts.
So I will be reverting one geocoded photo and look forward to a discussion, either on Wiki or on one of your training runs through Strood. ClemRutter 09:47, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Clem, thanks for getting in touch. I've just had another look at Rochester, Kent and I agree it does need a good going over. The bare information is there, but it does need writing up in prose. I took out a bunch of images that were dark and/or blurred. I wasn't paying that close attention to what they represented, I was more concerned about the quality. I accept that there are times when the historical importance of an image can outweigh quality, but in this case it's easy for both of us to get out into Rochester on a clear day and take some nice snaps. Something that I keep intending to do, but haven't yet. How do you fancy meeting up one bright day and we can have a drink in Ye Arrow and then go out and take some photos together? The weather during this autumn has been brilliant for taking snaps, and we aren't making the most of it! SilkTork *SilkyTalk 11:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
A while ago, you were kind enough to offer to nominate me for adminship. Being rather busy at the time, I did not take up your offer, but you may wish to know that I am now a nominee. Gaius Cornelius 21:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hope you feel great! Pokemon Buffy Titan (talk) 08:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I saw that you removed the wikilinks from the dates in the Charles Dickens article. I would encourage you to add wikilinks to dates when they contain date and year (i.e. September 2, 2007) because this allows user preferences to format the date display in a users prefered format. If the date only contains a year then I would agree that it is a low value link that should not be included, otherwise it helps to have the wikilinks. Thanks, Cacophony (talk) 20:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hey, hope you enjoy! Pokemon Buffy Titan (talk) 10:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your support in my request for adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of 38/1/0! I hope I can live up to the standards of adminship, and I will try my best to make Wikipedia a better place. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 18:33, 23 November 2007 (UTC) |
You said in a reply in Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/SilkTork#SilkTork that you are still not clear in what way you erred, in the matter that I opposed you over. I would be happy to discuss this further if you wish, as the feedback I have gotten about you from others is that while you are a bit legalistic/procedural, to your detriment, you have made valuable contributions to the project. ++Lar: t/c 14:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Back to the topic at hand... I totally agree that there is a challenge around balancing the desire to cherish and value the contributions of anons (of all sorts... IPs, alternate accounts, main accounts that want to remain anonymous, etc) with the need to have a smoothly functioning project. And I also agree there is a challenge around balancing the need for discussion and for making sure points are made with the need to not belabor points too far. That latter is a balance that I myself don't necessarily always excel at, to be sure. Your observation that different areas have different norms/tolerances, with ANI being one that tolerates a bit more length, is particularly apt. So I guess the net here is perhaps I don't necessarily have any really sage advice for you anyway. But I'm always happy to discuss matters. If you're still interested in adminship at some point, you may also want to sound out other admins for their views, and even consider the coaching process and particularly admin coaching. That's not to say you are necessarily inexperienced, mind you. Different coaches bring different perspectives so you should perhaps do the legwork to review and then select a coach or coaches for yourself. Hope that's of some help. ++Lar: t/c 02:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Creating, Destroying, and Restoring Value in Wikipedia makes for interesting reading.Thanks for pointing it out. I haven't got through it yet, but I'm struck by some of the measurement methods they are using to judge a valuable editor. A user who makes an edit that is read often and remains a long time is considered a valuable editor. Mmmm - I'll go edit a few Harry Potter, sex position and wrestling articles and see my "value" sky rocket! But stay away from Palladian architecture and Virtuti Militari as they might become featured for one day, but thereafter remain lost in the archives to be read only by an appreciative handful. Value cannot always be measured by mechanical yardsticks! SilkTork *SilkyTalk 18:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Ha, I see that my favorite image has become your favorite image, hunh? Well, thanks! I'm honored. (and I've seen the code you used to put up those pics. Heh, isn't it creative, specifing negative values. I wouldn't have thought of that, so thumbs up to you.) — 0612 (TALK); Posted: 23:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
We've got a couple of sub-guideline proposals at notability which are maturing and likely to be pushing for acceptance. It seems like you might want to review the concepts in the context of the recent trend toward reducing rather than increasing the processe. Cheers! --Kevin Murray (talk) 23:44, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Good merge at Apicius! That's encyclopedic thinking. --Wetman (talk) 12:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
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Was there consensus or a discussion anywhere before you changed the redirect of WP:Plot?