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Impressive alumni and good start articleVictuallers 19:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
All: I'm Deerfield's Director of Communications. David Thiel '91. My understanding of Wikipedia guidelines is that I should not be editing the Deerfield Academy entry on the site (even if I declare a COI, it still doesn't seem like a good idea). That said, I'd be happy to answer any of YOUR questions or point you to public resources the school has available. For example, I could provide high quality images, or point you to our Flickr page, or provide up-to-date statistics and whatnot. My email is first initial last name at deerfield.edu. If this is not okay to post here, please delete. Thanks Davidthiel (talk) 22:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
As per Exeter's talk page, it's silly to have a list of references where Deerfield is mentioned only in passing. Additionally, the one which has here gotten its own section in the article is certainly not the only one (I can think of a couple off my head, but we shouldn't get into this again.) Mjl0509 04:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
I've done some reversions of the Vandalism that has been added over the past few days, as have SeanMD80 and ElKevbo, but it still needs a big clean up. Preferably by someone that knows that subject and can go though the list of alumni and other issues. For example... after 666 years of service, Frank Boyden retired in 2008, and In 2467, the Academy reestablished co-education, which Boyden had discontinued during the 2000s. --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 05:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
No doubt this happened during "Choate Day", the largest sports event between DA and Choate. There was some vandalism by DA students on the Choate page, and it's only fair to assume some was done to the Deerfield page.
That, I can tell you right now, is not a picture of a DA girl rowing. And Deerfield's colors are green and white, rather than maroon.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Drannkirk (talk • contribs) 17:46, May 14, 2007
ElKevbo, I wasn't trying to vandalize the page. I was trying to delete the picture. I have some good pictures of Deerfield's crew program, should you want it. How would I go about deleting that picture of the maroon colored uniform girl?
I've merged the list of heads of school in here. On its own, that article had no value and the article here is short enough to incorporate this. Pascal.Tesson 21:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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Hi I am From Afghanistan and I finished my School in 2010 and I want to study in The Faculty and I am from one of the poor people if it is possible please register me in this Faculty Best Regards Ahmad Rafi From Afghanistan Country --175.106.50.221 (talk) 08:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
How does the lacrosse team's winning one year make it an instant "perennial contender" for the title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beatnik Party (talk • contribs) 09:57, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Should the brouhaha over former faculty having sex with students be included? If so, how much weight does it deserve?
Reilly here. Making National news may allow it here. That doesn;t mean it belongs. Deerfield has made the news frequently. This is hardly a full history of the school. "Death Be Not Proud" has no mention, for example. Finally, it is too soon to judge whether this story will seem at all significant to the school's history even after some time has passed and perspective gained. I leearned this from every history teacher I ever had, Elijah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpreilly (talk • contribs) 22:10, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Editor Mpreilly (welcome--glad to see a new editor with a sense of balance) wants it deleted, for being "bad pr." His better argument is that just because it's in the news does not make it significant in the larger scheme of things.
First a little history. When the story broke somebody perhaps a little over-excited inserted a full paragraph, including names, dates, charges, and feeble defenses, making that the largest single topic on the page. Yours truly reduced it to a couple sentences, with footnotes. Editor Mpreilly further reduced that reduction, and after second thoughts, deleted it entirely.
The consequence was that anybody who typed "Deerfield" into a search engine encountered lurid newspaper and TV news articles about faculty having sex with boys--and a Wikipedia article that averted its eyes. If anything that made it worse.
Is it notable? The head of school and chair of the board of trustees--rightly or wrongly--thought so. They sent out a first-ever "Important Announcement" and invited the press to follow up. An outsider might question whether this was good judgment. But certainly the media accepted their invitation, and thought it notable enough to generate ink and TV stories. There may be further consequences, as the question of criminal investigation remains open. So for the time being, it seems an event of significance.
What about the larger scheme of things? Time will tell. Let's revisit this in a while and see. I think the two sentences it currently gets are about right, given that anybody who wants details can follow the footnotes to news articles and the Deerfield annoucement.
REILLY: I would say leave it out and let time tell. If the school is fundamentally changed by this over the next ten years, then it should be added.
I take the time to explain my reasoning so that a good new editor is not discouraged. In the long run Mpreilly may prove to be right, and this may recede into the category of trivia less Wikipedia-worthy than last year's lacrosse team record. On the other hand--as between the dedication of a science building several years ago, and this--which deserves more bandwidth?ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 15:18, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
REILLY: John Gunther, the dying boy in the book Death Be Not Proud, was a DA Student. His hope before dying was to graduate. Robbie Benson played him in the film which was made in part on the DA campus. It meets the criteria. I am not saying it belongs here. Not everything that makes the news is of historical significance. People are excited about this scandal because it is sensational and salacious. Let it go.
Reilly: I wrote that sentence "...deerfield addressed..." and I find it accurate, concise and sufficient, but to add that the police are presently considering what they might do tomorrow, stay tuned.... That is newspaper talk, and belongs in your blog. The sentence I wrote is the only one I would use — except I would not use it, as it is not historical or significant in the long run. At least, there is no present reason to think that it will be. Mpreilly (talk) 23:01, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay--two years later they have decided not to charge anybody. But they have also broadened the allegations. Now it isn't just one aberrant faculty member. It's four, and abuse going all the way back to the 1950's. Also, a $350,000 settlement by the school. New York Times and multiple Boston Globe articles. So I'll insert a section titled as above.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 19:52, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Responding to editor MpReily's remark about a book that was not in the article, I read the book, and concluded that it ought to be. Other schools (dare I mention Choate?) include an "in Popular Culture" section in their Wikiarticle. So I have added one. This is just a start of course. Doubtless there are other memoirs, TV shows, movies or plays that mention Deerfield. Whether the connection with Deerfield is prominent enough that they deserve inclusion has to be judged case-by-case. The last citation is an example of a connection with Deerfield which is attenuated and may be a candidate for deletion. I note Choate cites virtually every instance its name is mentioned in some third rate movie, which is perhaps overdoing it.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 12:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
The following is copied from my talk page, as it belongs here instead:
Hi ElijahBosley,
I was editing the Deerfield Academy Wikipedia page, and noticed that you removed the word "prestigious" from the description and said it was an opinion rather than a fact. However, anyone who knows anything about US boarding schools knows that Deerfield Academy is one of the most prestigious boarding schools, along with Phillips Academy Andover, Phillips Exeter Academy, St. Paul's School and the Hotchkiss School. On the Phillips Academy Andover page the word "prestigious" is also written without a footnote. So I don't understand why the Deerfield Academy page can't have the word "prestigious" on it without being removed. Sorry, I'm a bit new at this and I just want to understand how this works. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.82.189.144 (talk) 14:55, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the speedy and informative reply! It looks like you know quite a lot about preparatory schools as well. And I'm sorry for creating another post with the same content; I thought my comment didn't save properly when I posted. I look forward to creating a Wikipedia account! Once again, thank you for your reply!
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Under Heritage Award it is implied that Saul Bellow was an alum. It does not appear to be the case that he was. Swliv (talk) 13:16, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
I noticed that there is no demographics section of the student body and couldn't find any on their website. I found these two sites A B, but have no knowledge of their reliability. I would really love to have this information added to the article if nobody has an objection. The two sites are pretty close in percentages, with A having more precise percentages. Ayzmo (talk) 20:14, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
@Jahaza I recently reverted the characterization of Deerfield Academy as an "elite
" coeducational boarding preparatory school; I know you've been advocating for the label, so I thought to bring it up in the talk page. Elite
is a value-laden label which gives a generally positive connotation that embellishes the school's reputation, and as such ought to be avoided per MOS:PUFFERY. Moreover, its not a necessary description of the school's character (i.e. Phillips Academy has no adjective). The school's accomplishments should speak for themselves, and as such I think it would be better to compromise by mentioning that admissions to the school are generally selective, as most other private schools similar to it state in the lede. An overt term like "elite", however, is excessive in my opinion. GuardianH (talk) 04:39, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
It has been referred to by many contemporary sources as the most elite..." and not "is a
eliteco-educational university-preparatory school..." GuardianH (talk) 04:18, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
The descriptions of Deerfield Academy by various news outlets as an "elite" institution is material that definitely belongs in the body, but not in the lede. Doing so comprises the article's neutrality, and is a pretty standard example of WP:UNDUE and WP:BOOSTER. GuardianH (talk) 19:34, 14 September 2023 (UTC)