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3rd party refs

A few days ago I added something this article mostly lacked: 3rd party refs. If any of you add new info, check if 3rd party sites also covered that feature. PC Gamer may be a good place to look. --KAMiKAZOW (talk) 23:49, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

x64 with SEE2 issue

Hi.

I just noticed revision #642609276, in which "with SSE2" is removed from |platform= with this edit summary: "x64 does already implied SSE2 support". I disagreed and proceeded per WP:BRD. But this edit strikes as vaguely familiar. So, I decided to take the initiative and start this discussion myself.

So, what is wrong the edit summary? SEE2 is indeed a core part of x64; if you have an x64 CPU, you have a CPU with SEE2 as well. (At least, this is the case with AMD and hopefully Intel CPUs.) So, it gives you the minimum bottom. The problem is that |platform= isn't supposed to mention the minimum bottom; it is supposed to mention all supported platforms. Saying "x64" alone doesn't say anything about implementation of SSE-specific code; the reader seeing "x64" still does not know whether an x64 with SSE3 would suffice or not. Silence is not always equivalent to explicit confirmation. (We have precedence in the form of consensus through editing here: There are computer programs with versions specifically written for both IA-32 and x64; specifying "IA-32" does the job of specifying the minimum, but Wikipedians specify both to convey the fact that the application is specifically written to take advantage of x64.)

So, one might ask: Okay, but why did you revert the part on system requirements? If "x64" would suffice for the bottom requirement, you shouldn't have reverted it there. Well, the problem is: System requirements section doesn't exactly specify a vague minimum only; it specifies a recommended CPU too and these two shouldn't be of varying accuracy. The resolution of both ends should be near equal. But I am ready to negotiate or even forfeit that part.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 15:53, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

First, SSE2 isn't just included by all x64 vendors, it's also required by the x64 specification. So SSE2 can't be seen as an additional feature for x64.
But I think you're right, we should mention the recommended CPU instead. SSE2 is a hard requirement, but SSSE3 is used a lot (if available) and will be a big slowdown else. So I think we should replace the SSE2 with SSSE3.
Degasus (talk) 12:16, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi.
"SSE2 isn't just included by all x64 vendors." Really? In that case this discussion is unnecessary and SSE2 mention is mandatory.
"but SSSE3 is used a lot". Well, if you have a source for that, then we can add it to the infobox too.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 03:27, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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