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Francis Phoebus of Navarre → Francis Phoebus – Per WP:NCROY: Only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed. As far as I can tell, he is the only monarch named Francis Phoebus. Векочел (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 02:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose, I support some of these “of country” removals (if there is no other monarch by that name, also depending on the circumstances of the rm), but this is a bit too far. What’s next? Charles Albert? Charles Felix? Beatrix? I think in the cases that there is no number the “of country” should remain. Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 19:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, there is no one else with an article on Wikipedia with the name Francis Phoebus, monarch or non-monarch. Векочел (talk) 21:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, in line with WP:CONCISE policy and WP:NCROY guideline. As far as I can tell, he's the only notable person (monarch or not) named Francis Phoebus. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Concision does not benefit the readers. Dimadick (talk) 10:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. WP:CONCISE indicates that indeed consensus is that concision is of benefit to readers. The applicable guideline WP:NCROY supports this move. Bensci54 (talk) 15:27, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. – Hilst[talk] 20:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose - Normally, I'm inclined to support these sorts of thing (even though its against my personal preference), but using only a first name in the sort of circumstance really should be kept to names easily WP:RECOGNIZABLE, like Marie Antoinette or Maria Theresa. estar8806 (talk) ★ 02:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The juggernaut is rolling on this one and, despite efforts to halt it, it will continue to roll. WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE and, latterly, WP:NCROY all support this move so there's really no grounds on which to object, other than attempting to relitigate a change to naming conventions via an RFC that has already concluded. — Amakuru (talk) 10:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"despite efforts to halt it" Yes, Wikipedia keeps getting worse in recent years, despite our efforts to improve it. Dimadick (talk) 14:26, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Showing the country is important in the interests of our readers and necessary to make the subject of such articles sufficiently clear. Removing it isn’t an improvement for our readers (which policy instructs is our priority) and doesn’t seem to serve any purpose other than to satisfy a specialist editorial desire for maximal conciseness. Also, just to be very clear about this: Wikipedia nowhere asserts that the most concise unambiguous title is necessarily the best one. If it were, we’d have US, UK, Cézanne, Obama, 103rd Congress, DTs, Bothell, AI, and countless other un-encyclopedic titles. The change to NCROY that prompted this and other contentious RMs was ill-considered and should be revisited. ╠╣uw[talk] 17:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Per WP:PRECISE. Francis Phoebus, as a personal name, cannot be treated as unambiguous without a numeral, even if he is the only notable person with that name. UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 14:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]