![]() | This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:
|
![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Distinguished Administrators,
In 2009, the article with this name has been deleted from Wikipedia. While I never saw the original version, what I would like to point is that nowadays the significance of Flandrensis is clearly proved by many references in magazines, newspapers and even television, provided in this article, which is simply a translation of the Russian one: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%81 As you may see, this article exists for a rather significant period of time, and is considered as valuable enough to remain in the Russian sector, widely-known for very strict policies. Now, I would like to ask the following: does the article, which significance is clearly proved, deserve deletion only because three years ago a completely other version has been created, which didn't include the references provided in this one? I think no. And before quickly deleting it again, please take at least a basic look to the references and links provided. Sincerely. Escargoten (talk) 15:58, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Currently I write an article about Flandrensis on the Dutch Wikipedia (see my sandbox). I will update this page about Flandrensis by removing some information because it isn't mentioned in reliable sources, and add extra sources from the Belgian media, this mont three Belgian newspapers (Het Belang van Limburg, Gazet van Antwerpen and Het Nieuwsblad) publishes articles about this micronation (see website of Flandrensis for copies of those articles) and also on Radio 1 (Belgium). I will remove some photos and replace them by photos that has been published in the newspaper. --Lyam Desmet (talk) 12:57, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
I add two sources to the article. One source is an article in the Belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad, a short version of the article has also been published on the website of the newspaper (click here). The other source was an interview on the flemish radio Radio 2 (Belgium). --Lyam Desmet (talk) 19:08, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
This week I will update the article and add some information and photos. The source of the new information is a recent article written by journalist Tom Gheeraert in the Flemish newspaper "Het Wekelijks Nieuws" and a new book about micronations by photograph Leo Delafontaine. I also asked permission to use some photos who are published in some newspapers who were already mentioned on the page of Flandrensis.--Lyam Desmet (talk) 15:09, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
I add another source to the article and a new website: an article in the French "Le Jeu de l'Oie: La Revue Internationale de Sciences – Po Lille" (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeu_de_l%27Oie_%28revue%29) --Lyam Desmet (talk) 15:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
I add another source from the French magazine Rue 89, written by journalist Robin Prudent --Lyam Desmet (talk) 11:26, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
I add two extra newspapers: Het Laatste Nieuws from Belgium and Le Journal du Dimanche from France. I also restore a link and undone an update from another user (possible someone involved in the micronation?): on this article I only accept information that had been mentioned in reliable sources --Lyam Desmet (talk) 16:23, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I found a reference about Flandrensis on the website of the Thelegraph in their list of 'Ten bizarre micronations" (dated in May 2014). On 23 september the founder of Flandrensis was a guest and the micronation was the theme of a show on the Belgian television 'Een'. --Lyam Desmet (talk) 12:04, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
An English translation on v.7 News (Russian world news) from an interview in the Russian magazine Apparat with professor Alastair Bonnett of the University of Newcastle. On November 28 professor Bonnet visited Moscow and gave a lection on micronations. Link: http://v7news.com/5-steps-to-create-your-own-micronations-apparat/
--Lyam Desmet (talk) 13:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
The micronation was one of the guests of the Polination conference in Italy this summer. I found one English, an Italian and 2 German articles about the conference and Flandrensis. --Delle89 (talk) 13:29, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
This micronation is described as a political simulation and a cultural organisation, but what about the environmental aspect of it? In found on their website: "Finally our most important goal, we are concerned about the global warming and its impact on our world and life. Until 2048 Antarctica is protected against greedy countries that only want the mineral sources of the white continent. Human pollution and the barbaric hunting on animals are a great danger to the flora and fauna in Antarctica! It is our goal to warn and inform people about the importance of the white continent and to support Antarctic organizations worldwide. We strongly believe that Antarctica should remain a natural preserve only available for scientific research well beyond the expiration of the Antarctic Treaty. Therefore the claims of Flandrensis are a symbolic statement to the international community: our land is untouched by humanity and it is only inhabited by its animals: we want it to remain as such!" After some research about the conference in Italy I found out that the participants signed an Environment Treaty as a precursor of the Climate Conference COP21 later in Paris this year? Is there any press coverage about this because their view on their Antarctic claims are quite interesting? --Delle89 (talk) 14:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I've read the book "Le business des vanités : enquête sur les arnaques à la noblesse". The book is about fake nobility and scam and the author mention several micronations like Aurecania and Hutt River, the part about Flandrensis is surprisingly positive (one of the few positive and humoristic ways to get a title of nobility) and explained their motivation for a monarchy. When I read discussions on Wikipedia I noticed a lot of prejudices and misunderstandings about the subject of micronational nobility --Delle89 (talk) 22:36, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
My new source is an article in The Brussels Times. This journalist visited some micronations and conferences and even interviewed academics about the subject of micronationalism for this article. The central micronation in the article is Flandrensis and I took 2 important parts from it: "I wanted it to be useful. I learned of micronations proclaiming territories in Antarctica so I did it, but as an ecological venture, to raise awareness on ice melting. Flandrensis is the only country that does not want citizens on its territory" and "This is now finished. If the Alcatraz conference proved one thing, it is that newer micronations no longer seek official recognition. Niels has never compared Flandrensis to a real state. Another guest, the Principalty of Aigues-Mortes, never thought of taking such a position. Alcatraz is perfectly satisfied being what it is." --Delle89 (talk) 17:34, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
In April the Dutch National Geographic mentioned the micronation in its magazine and their website as part of a 2 page long article about micronations. --Lyam Desmet (talk) 19:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
![]() | This request for help from administrators has been answered. If you need more help or have additional questions, please reapply the ((admin help)) template, or contact the responding user(s) directly on their own user talk page. |
Please create an edit notice for the article, placing in it the template ((British English|form=editnotice)) Thank you--KDS4444 (talk) 02:48, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Small update with sources from French media about micronational conferences in Aigues-Mortes and Atlanta and an interview I found in a Polish magazine. --Delle89 (talk) 18:22, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 3 external links on Grand Duchy of Flandrensis. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template ((source check))
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:46, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
On their website there is a list with all publications in media, so I made 2 small edits. The images of the currency were deleted because there was no evidence of permission. I've send an e-mail to them and quickly received a message back from the founder, the permission will be send to the permission-commons. --Delle89 (talk) 13:53, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
I uploaded the image of 20 flandri again, the designer gave permission for all 3 designs to the permission-commons --Delle89 (talk) 15:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 21:21, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
In August 2021 the French newspaper Le Monde published a serie of 6 articles on micronations, including Flandrensis. On their social media they announced the micronation is now a non-profit organisation and I found the registration and bylaws (see sources article). --Delle89 (talk) 21:33, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't the replacement for a homepage. This is a very minor topic, and does not deserve such high detail for an environmental group masquerading as a micronation. If you want to discuss further, please discuss here instead of reverting. Angryapathy (talk) 13:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Sorry, but the infobox (edit 11 April) reduces the quality of the article. The discussion about template 'country versus micronation' is non-sense. It is clear to everyone that micronations are not recognized (as stated in the article). The template does not cause confusion and contains factual information. Delle89 (talk) 10:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)