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(bs) I'm inclined to think that this one is beyond redemption. That old 119th Century view is just too pervasive and too full of errors. Wipe it, delete and start again is probably the wisest thing. Tannin 11:06, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I agree with the objections others have cited about this article. But is this article even necessary. There are already separate articles (also in need of major revision, but not nearly as bad) on early human migration and historic human migration. This article might be better as a disambiguation stub linking to the other two articles, as well as to related issues like nomads, immigration, etc. It's frightening just how long ago the complaints about this page have been here without any resolution. Ftjrwrites (talk) 17:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
The main problem of this article as i see it is that it is basicaly historical information, and has nothing on mordern migration. What i think it needs is:
Volintory migrtation Forced migration - War, Natural disarsters, ect.
(not a compleat list of issues to be addressed, and not that wel orderd ATM)
then a bit about historical migrations. tooto 14:18, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I agree that this needs a redesign. I think the main problem is that the article mixes up a whole bunch of different things:
Chl 23:43, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I noticed that some paragraphs were repeated in the article. Is this standard in Wikipedia for articles derived from the Britannia Encyclopedia of 1911, or was this a mistake? Rickyrab 18:01, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
One of them is the contention that "other migrations generally didn't give rise to new states" - it treats cenutries of history of Moorish Spain as a mere annoyance in the politics of Christian Europe.
Another is the short paragraph that deals with the Great migration that brought down the Roman Empire and produced the Europe we know today. Great migration is a dissambig which sends users to this paragraph, and the only link one can provide is Völkerwanderung, but that's not much of an article either. I think we should move Great migration to Great migration (dissambiguation) and write an extensive article at Great migration. That would be a slightly euro-centric usage, but it was one of the largest migrations ever and even the dissambig suggests that this is the primary meaning of the expression. Zocky 17:29, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
...the Polynesians, starting with the Lapita culture, have proven to be the most successful in the art of navigation, as the Norse adventurers in the North Atlantic and the Arab traders in the Indian Ocean did not create permanent settlements.
I hope no one is forgetting Iceland (Norse), Zanzibar (Arab), Dar es Salaam (Arab) and other permanent settlements, not to mention the spread of Islam across the Indian Ocean rim! Who was most successful in navigating is kind of subjective anyway, hence my edit. --147.109.250.24 01:38, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I would also question equating skilled navigation with creating settlements; the link seems tenuous. I would suggest removing the 'claim' the Polynesians (who were certainly great navigators) have been proven to be the most successful navigators. --SteveP 07:19, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
is it just british english that has out-migration including migration within one's country of origin (from rural Maine to the NYC, say)? doesn t american english make the same distinction? appealing for views on this. thanx -mayumashu
Hi, I agree with other that this page has errors. One in particular - that human migration necessarily refers to the movement en masse, as opposed to individual migration. I think this particular definition may be for one area of study/practice, but not for all - Guppy 16:40, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
this was picked out from the reference desk. Anyone would like to add that to the article?
this
with this
equals:
While I was doing a map for the migrations of the human race I decided to cross it with some information from the ice age article. And for my surprise the result is that the human migrations were mainly during the colder periods of the ice age. The Bering Strait crossing coincided with a real cold period. Why is that? Is the data wrong, or is there a conclusion to be taken that i didn´t understand?--Alexandre Van de Sande 18:53, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
excellent map! since you ask about the letters, they are markers for individual mutations, i.e. you can trace the migrations by watching how the letters move along the arrows. for example, the B mutation occurs apparently in East Asia and travels across the Pacific and North America to South America. I think the letters are used universally, i.e. the "A" "B" "C" alleles etc. are technical terms agreed upon by geneticists, so I decided to include them in Image:Human mtDNA migration.png.
As for the temperature, I doubt there is a direct causation, at least for the first 'gap': people were still in Africa, and I don't see how a warm period would have kept them from emigrating. It just so happens that they didn't emigrate for another 60ka or so. Further phyla that were formed within Africa between 130k BP and 70k BP are probably just not shown in the diagram because they don't correspond to large movements. dab (ᛏ) 19:45, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Human migration involves a bit more than European migration (the author rather naively assumes that language migration presupposes population migration)...this section needs serious work and hasn't taken the conscientious advice of earlier critiques. Remove this article, less the blind lead the more blind. 13 Nov 2005 user: Kemet
There are quite important migrations missing in the map, specially from the cultural point of view:
Because this is due to the recentness of such events. --Dagofloreswi (talk) 20:49, 14 November 2009 (UTC) The Laotian migration into the United States, Canada, and French caused by government corruption. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.144.99.150 (talk) 21:34, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
I recently noticed Single-origin hypothesis and Multiregional hypothesis. If the latter is taken seriously, it should be mentioned in the section on the earliest migrations. -- Beland 13:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
rigoberto family migration —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.39.163.210 (talk) 01:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
see the Chunyun article.--Skyfiler 01:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
The article needs more things from the asian and african sides of thing... Quid of the Bantou migrations, or the many peoples from the central asia?
I re-wrote the early modern section. This page also badly needs a section on 19th and 20th c migrations. It also needs much more on non-European migration. Jdorney 12:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Anybody have any information about the Austronesian expansion? It should be in this article for many reasons:
A) They colonized of the Maritime Southeast Asia, largely displacing the indigenous inhabitants(the Australoid peoples) of that region. They were also settling lands over relatively longer distances before the more notable Europeans did.
B) Their descendants, the Polynesians settled most of the western Pacific Islands.
C) Their range was between Madagascar and Hawaii(if you count the Polynesians), a span that transverse almost half of the planet.
D) The Austronesian language family is a candidate for being the largest, if not one of the largest, language family in the history of mankind.
E) They number at least 300 Million, as opposed to the Bantus which number significantly less.
I see an entry for Polynesians but not for Austronesians as a whole. I know research and info about the topic is limited and it's the primary reason I am taking this to the talk pages instead. Any input would be appreciated.--Chicbicyclist 10:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
A map for the last few millennia or centuries would be helpful. -- Beland 04:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Articles on those subjects are chaotically and confusingly named. Please see a proposal to standardize all names here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Is the second picture on the right-hand side supposed to have the description:
"mitochondrial DNA-based chart of large human migrations. (Numbers are millennia before present)"
Seems like someone has had some fun with this article...
Ay Dee (talk) 19:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
All of it ? That article scope is too broad . Why not types of migration instead of the chronological approach . Under section-title 'Theory', causes of migration are listed, and it seems a bit fledgling, without knowing what migration is . It seems there is no tag at WP:TC that fits . Sechinsic (talk) 17:58, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
My colleague and I would like to propose the addition of a section entitled "Migration for Work in the 20th and 21st Century." We propose this in order to include in this page a section that reflects a more modern migration which we believe will provide a contemporary example of migration in order to update this page. FaithSara (talk) 02:28, 1 April 2011 (UTC), DArquero (talk) 02:28, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Migrants’ New Paths Reshaping Latin America DAMIEN CAVE published NYT January 5, 2012. See Immigration#Economic migrant 99.190.80.182 (talk) 06:33, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
This is an animated video about international migration. It might be interesting for this article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZmqIwqur4 85.179.155.104 (talk) 08:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
The section that started with "The diversification of Asian migration flows" (which I made into a sub-heading as it appeared that was the intent of the original contributor of that section) references a table and a chart which are not included here in the article. Can those be recovered, or should the references be removed? 1bandsaw (talk) 00:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I have been researching Homo Sapien Dispersal Patterns. One problem that continuously arises is the concept that Homo Sapien seems to appear in China before in Israel. Is it possible that Homo Sapien evolved in two separate places: Africa and Eastern Asia? Maybe it is possible that Homo Sapien evolved in 2 places rather than once? Just a little Theory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talwerts (talk • contribs) 04:03, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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The scope of International migration and Human migration overlaps, and so it seems reasonable to merge them. This was proposed in 2014, and completed with a redirect in 2015. This was reversed by User:Andy Dingley this month, but the intention seems to be that a merge is still worthwhile. Therefore, I'm reproposing, tagging both pages. Klbrain (talk) 15:49, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Population mouvement in Cameroon duering the 19 century Population mouvement or migration refers to the mouvement or displacement of people from one are to another due voluntary or involuntary mouvement.the main direction was from the North to South . The causes of the mouvement is explain in term of political,économic and social reason. A) political reson - payement of trebuties - inter tribal war of Modibo Adama - succession desputed B) economic reason - search for fertile soil - search for grazing Land C) social reason - the role of water bodies - the role of hills and escapment - social ties or religous conflit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A03:2880:FF:14:0:0:FACE:B00C (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
Maybe this text block is useful here? It was recently added at developing country by a novice editor but didn't fit there. Also it seems a bit essay-like, pushing a point of view but perhaps some of it can be used for this article?:
Only one in thirty global citizens have ever migrated,[1] while only about 2 percent of the 281 million immigrants across borders are from developing countries.[2] The benefit of migration for developing countries is exponential. As a result of internal migration from unproductive rural areas to urban areas, there is a reallocation of labor that aids productivity, output, and economic development.[3] As economic growth occurs, income and standard of living also grows. If residents are able to immigrate across countries, the citizens themselves can match their skills more effectively to a respective economy, bettering their own livelihood. Immigrants are able to raise their per capita income by over 30 percent.[4]
Unfortunately, there are many factors that are specific to developing countries that prevent migration. Misinformation and lack of accessibility in rural conditions leave citizens misled and unaware of the opportunities that they have. Additionally, there are liquidity constraints because of the high levels of poverty that make migrating impossible due to the high costs of moving. As well, there are explicit policy barriers that directly limit migration due to explicit quotas from certain countries.[3] Lastly, the uncertainty, culture shock, and detachment from home associated with migrating are the main psychological factors that prevent citizens from migrating.[5] EMsmile (talk) 14:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
References
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