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Is this a factual statement - I don't believe so, but if anybody has evidence, that would be welcome... Jkstark 05:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Maybe they refer to the US registered IL-78 tanker, N78GF, that is on a tarmac in Texas. It is supposed to be in the US doing Air to Air refueling training under a US Government contract. I wonder si the fact that a US company owns an IL-78 and that it is US registered, if the USA should not be added to the IL-76 operators map and countries? Hudicourt 14:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone added Canada's Skylink as a IL-76 operator. Skylink does not own or lease IL-76s. Its pilots do not fly IL-76s. Skylink serves as a Canadian agent for other IL-76 operators. Il do not think that Skylink should be listed here. If it is, the map should be edited to add Canada to the countries that operate the IL-76.Hudicourt 14:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
The map of users of the IL-76 is incomplete as it excludes New Zealand where Pacific Express operated at least 1 X IL-76 for international freight delivery (especially to 3rd world countries) for many years.
The Article on the Shaanxi Y-8 claims that the accident on June 3 2006 in China was a KJ-200 AWACS, based on the Y-8 airframe. The IL-76 article claims the same accident was a IL-76 based KJ-2000. It cannot be both.Hudicourt 16:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
My research indicates in was the Y-8 based KJ-200 that crashed [1] Hudicourt 18:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I removed this section:
Although early reports speculated that it was a KJ-2000 that had crashed, mostly due to the large number of on-board fatalities, all news articles and websites published in 2007 agree that the crash involved a KJ-200 aircraft Hudicourt (talk) 16:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
On the Il-76 waterbomber controversy: http://en.rian.ru/letters/20070322/62443079.html
Bulgaria: http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/politics/28.html?id_issue=11795239 For this winning effort, Russian crews received special awards from Bulgaria.
Further, for the record, the IL-76 waterbomber was used in Montenegro and Serbia this summer. The airplane was the subject of a further offer to Greece by President Putin just before Greek wildfires subsided. This offer was reported to have been solicited by Greek Prime Minister Karamanlis.
The EU's Stavros Dimas, among others, has advocated for a more comprehensive approach to EU disaster response; something Russian Emergencies Minister Sergei Shoigu has been advocating for years. Minister Shoigu touts his nation's aerial firefighting strengths here: http://mnweekly.ru/business/20070802/55265228.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vigorous (talk • contribs) 12:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
In Serbia, outcomes of July's successful free service IL-76 waterbombing have begun to surface: http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=08&dd=30&nav_id=43392&fs=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.75.13.242 (talk) 15:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
In Paraguay, the IL-76 waterbomber will soon be trying to stop the unstoppable, compliments, President Hugo Chavez, of Venezuela. http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7B7DCBA28C-2954-43A9-8CDB-54AC74FA9D1B%7D)&language=EN —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vigorous (talk • contribs) 04:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC) Reuters doesn't name the plane: http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/44346/story.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vigorous (talk • contribs) 04:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
LA Times reports the IL-76 will not be going to Paraguay: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-paraguay15sep15,1,7503627.story?track=rss —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.75.13.242 (talk) 14:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Alan Dean Foster (again) supports the IL-76 waterbomber by asking fire victims directly to go after the authorities for answers on the IL-76 waterbomber. http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/letters/la-le-tuesday23oct23,0,1311069.story?coll=la-news-comment-letters
Author Foster last made such an appeal to an Arizona readership: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0625sunlets251.html
The IL-76 article makes several unsupported claims. Specifically
" The IL-76is the most widely used large cargo plane in the world."
Widely might include the C-130. MOST is probably the 747.
"The Il-76 was responsible for carrying some 90 percent of ramp-delivered airfreight from all of Europe, and at least 90 percent of all disaster relief aid worldwide." (intel from Ilyushin or where?)
List of Incidents and Accidents cites 5 accidents total. IL-76 family has suffered at least 19 major accidents or crashes.
The Reference list cites too many weak references not enough authoritative ones.
Page needs to be marked extensively with CITATION NEEDED.
IL-76 Wikipedia Page seems to be a bit of a Promotion Ad rather than encyclopedia reference Bwebb00 23:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
"The IL-76is the most widely used large cargo plane in the world."
It's false so I took it out.
As far as I can ascertain, the IL-76 seems to be the most widely used freighter in its class. I don't see that as a promotional statement, but simply a statement of fact.
"The Il-76 was responsible for carrying some 90 percent of ramp-delivered airfreight from all of Europe, and at least 90 percent of all disaster relief aid worldwide."
It may be true but needs to be sourced. There are only so many ramped types of aircraft in the World and the others are smaller aircraft or exist in small numbers
Otherwise, I don't see where the article goes wrong. Hudicourt 02:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
What is this aircraft's role, anyone know? Chwyatt (talk) 11:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[2]
It's said to be an airborne command post Hudicourt (talk) 14:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Added a very short entry to the main article, describing yet another version. Statement about current service is negated by the recent pictures of the iranian machine. But the question is... are there photos or drawings of the very first version... probably having a bulge on the rear cargo door —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.73.173.88 (talk) 10:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Since the western media is quite light on reports of Il-76 relief flights the story is obviously of little interest there so no liinks will be provided by this writer. Of course, the IL-76 was predominant during the tsumani relief operation, flying out of India and Russia in support. IL-76s also provided lift operations to Katrina victims. There is no verification that relief provided by those flights ever reached victims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vigorous (talk • contribs) 15:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Russia Today
The Unites (sic) States has rejected Russia's offer of an Ilyushin 76 firefighting plane, which experts say is first rate at dealing with fires of the sort now tearing through southern California.
http://www.russiatoday.ru/news/news/15979
gone 404
From 2005: Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's take on the IL-76 waterbomber: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3901/is_200507/ai_n14684507 link removed
This is the only US news source you will find quoting a US expert on Russian aircraft and the Il-76 waterbomber's capability to make a difference: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/3319268/detail.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.91.100.85 (talk) 14:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Taken down at original publisher's website. Preserved under the original title Forest Service Putting Up Smokescreen About Using Super Tanker? at (spam-protected) Free Republic.
http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/los-alamos-01.htm Too Proud - Russian version (dead Venik link)
http://www.vadscorner.com/tooproud.html -- Too Proud - American MSNBC version
http://www.theage.com.au/national/russian-offer-of-fire-jets-rejected-20091020-h6xt.html -- Russian offer of fire jets rejected - The Age
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/21/2720002.htm?section=justin -- Victoria rejected Russian waterbombers -- ABC News —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.91.103.93 (talk) 03:16, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?pg=7&id=207306 --In another Israeli news item, the IL-76 waterbomber was said to have 'spearheaded' this 'central role' and yet Carmel wildfire news from all around the world strongly featured a late arrival from the US. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.89.17.12 (talk) 18:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
There are a lot of lists in the article.
One in particular, list of operators, is too big IMHO to remain in here.
The list of variants was in bold and I have de-boldened it per MoS
The section "Foreign variants" - Foreign to what? can a different label be found- perhaps "Variants made outside Russia" or something similar?
Chaosdruid (talk) 06:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
I am confused by following
"On 9 March 2007, a Transaviaexport Il-76TD s/n 1003499991, registered EW-78826, on approach at Mogadishu, Somalia, was hit by a projectile, later confirmed as an RPG by Belarus officials.[48]"
Does it mean that RPG was fired by Belarus officials or Belarus officials identified the RPG?--قیصرانی (talk) 17:23, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
The IL-76 also served in Cubana de Aviación airline.
Cubana's IL-76s
Registration CU-T1271 : http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/8/5/4/0074458.jpg
Registration CU-T1258 : http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/9/2/0/0092029.jpg
Miguel.A.Lopez.Regalado (talk) 15:03, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Another picture of Cubana de Aviación IL-76 CU-T1258
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/23077579
Miguel.A.Lopez.Regalado (talk) 14:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Miguel.A.Lopez.Regalado (talk) 16:09, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
http://urrib2000.narod.ru/Mil-Hoy2.html
Miguel.A.Lopez.Regalado (talk) 16:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
http://russianplanes.net/EN/REGINFO/3204
Miguel.A.Lopez.Regalado (talk) 16:23, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
http://www.aerotransport.org/php/go.php?query=operator&where=114174&luck=
Miguel.A.Lopez.Regalado (talk) 16:31, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Ilyushin Il-76/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
The piece has been edited to remove all material surrounding
a controversy regarding use of the IL-76 waterbomber. For original material, see Quickseek's version of this page. http://il76.quickseek.com/ key word - controversy The editor-out of original material supporting the fact there has been controversy is known to this writer to be hostile. The most recent article supporting the fact there has been controversy is here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15065829/ Vigorous 02:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC) The controversy continues in Australia at this popular article and forum: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=5312 |
Last edited at 17:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 15:01, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
The map needs to be updated for Congo Brazzaville, it is civilian + military operator. At least one comapny operates such aircraft for freight shipping from Point noire to Brazzaville: http://radiookapi.net/actualite/2012/12/01/brazzaville-le-crash-dun-avion-cargo-fait-25-morts/
ALibrarywik(talk) 15:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
The page needs a link to a new page created for IL 476. There are many sources available for IL476 and buyers could be too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.91.75.84 (talk) 10:10, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_05_01/8-IL-76-craft-sent-to-fight-forest-fires-in-Siberia/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.181.252.113 (talk) 14:27, 1 May 2013 (UTC) http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/725824.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.181.252.113 (talk) 20:41, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2005-04-26/pdf/CREC-2005-04-26-pt1-PgH2530-2.pdf#page=1
The map shows it does, but the country list does not mention Zimbabwe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gnome of zurich (talk • contribs) 00:03, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
I've reverted the last removal of maintenance templates ([3]). The IP who removed them did not provide a valid reason for the removal, i.e. it suggested to use inline tags, but the presence of these maintenance templates are there in order not to tagbomb the article with inline citations.--Jetstreamer Talk 12:00, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
No reasons listed: "Lots..." is NOTHING, like your claim: "constructive". Start thinking. EOD. 77.186.59.191 (talk) 13:12, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
What is the issue with the link to the Ukrainian Air Force Ilyushin Il-76 shoot-down article being removed from the "incidents and accidents" section? I fully agree that it is not an "accident", but it is an Incident. A wikilink there is valid. 17:03, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello there. Please note this reversion. I've reinstated the NATO reporting name for the aircraft in the lead. Can we get consensus on whether to include this information for this aircraft in particular, or for Russian aircraft in general. Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:23, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
The map shows it does, but the country list does not mention Pakistan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaurav.p.chaturvedi (talk • contribs) 16:15, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
--Jetstreamer Talk 15:34, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Henry V. Novozhilov has been added to the infobox as designer of the Il-76, the field is intended for sole-designers ("Only appropriate for single designers, not project leaders") and it appears from the reference that he was leader of the design bureau - do we have a reliable source that he designed the aircraft all on his own? MilborneOne (talk) 17:25, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Any details about Il-76 destroyed at Sanaa International Airport? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f-WgZ8VJU4 Mykobox (talk) 13:22, 5 May 2015 (UTC)