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Is there any chance someone could provide some information about the modern city, rather than its name or history? --Henrygb 23:19, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Hi all. I've created a short article for the Kharvkivskyi neighborhood (under Kharkivskyy because that was the link on the Kiev page). I think it should be called Kharkivskyi, though, not Kharkivskyy. I didn't think about doing the change before I published the article, so maybe someone can please re-link the pages properly? Thanks! -- mno July 6, 2005 15:58 (UTC)
Presently, the article contains quite a few photos of Kyiv attractions. The photos are a bit scattered and this does not look good. Could anyone try to arrange the photos in nice looking tables, for instance, as it is done in Hawaii. Thanks in advance. Sashazlv 7 July 2005 05:29 (UTC)
This image should be removed as someone's modern fantasy. As best I know, the current coat of arms is exactly the same as was used during Catherine the Great's reign. It is featured in Catherine's Gerbovnik as part of coats of arms of different noble families descended from Rurik, e.g., Baryatinsky, Volkonsky, Repnin, etc. --Ghirlandajo 7 July 2005 08:19 (UTC)
I've updated the photo of the Kiev Botanical Gardens with a photo taken by R. Lezhoev. I have gotten in touch with him and asked his permission to upload the photo on Wikipedia. He agreed, assuming he is credited on the page where the photo is shown. The caption right now is a bit long, I'll leave it up to someone to change as they see fit. Getting rid of the note about Vydubychi would probably work. -- mno July 7, 2005 14:23 (UTC)
For those interested to compare the old and the new:
You can see how much the city changed (grew) from the amount of buildings in the background. Quit amazing. -- mno July 7, 2005 14:25 (UTC)
I was just wondering after looking at the metro maps. The station Livoberezhna (meaning left shore or left bank) is located on the right bank of the river (geographically). A future possible metro extension (line 5), is also to be called Livoberezhna while it is located on the rigth bank geogrpahically. It seems the geographically right bank is called the left bank. Am I correct? I think we should add a small note about this somewhere on the Kiev page. -- mno July 7, 2005 16:56 (UTC)
I've created three versions of the map of distrcits:
Feel free to use whichever one. I've added the Ukrainian version to the Districts section of the article.
-- mno 21:55, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
Hi everybody. Regarding that map: unfortunately, it doesn't reflect the river - which is rather important for understanding the city's subdivision. Would somebody "split" it following the respective raion limits line? Ukrained 19:14, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
I've contributed a few of the photos to Kiev article in the past. Most of my selections were based on key attractions. I see even more additions of Kiev photos in the Modern Kiev section. I believe that these are ALL GREAT PHOTOS! And I'm sure there are even more. I would love to have a separate section of Kiev Photos which would feature the key attractions. Those could be updated as better photos of the same places turn up...
My proposal - create a separate page on Wikipedia : Kiev/Album or Kiev/Photos which would be entirely dedicated to all pics.
On the main article page include one or two photos per related section and a link to the newly created album page where more photos can be viewed.
What do you guys think? -asmadeus 18:33, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Aaaah... just figured out that there is also tons of Kiev Photos on Wikimedia Commons -asmadeus 18:44, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
I thought about a list what must be done to make Kiev a perfect article. Feel free to add or modify. Sashazlv 04:05, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
History of Kiev is now a separate article, initially pasted from here. Please go there and help improving it, add pictures, etc. The plan is to have both at FA level. --Irpen 07:20, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
The current history section is based upon old "quick-history" in the lead. Please remember that History of Kiev is now a separate article and most of editing on history related matters should be there!
The even briefer history outline for the current lead is new. Please help with images arrangement at this page.
Since there is an ongoing drive to make both this and History of Kiev articles featured, please use extra care. Editing is welcome (this is wiki afterall), but please avoid careless "throwing in some thoughts" into the text. Also, a reminder, for Kiev/Kyiv/other disputes, archives reflect some thorough discussion. Before returning to this, read what was said before. Thanks to all! --Irpen 20:19, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
I substituted the second of these for the existing one in the article. Is it possible to slightly color up the map? Say, Obolon in light blue, Pechersk in light green, etc. If that's overly time consuming - no problem, the current version should work fine. Thanks. Sashazlv 05:24, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
I much prefer the way you guys have done the images now. I found it annoying having to scroll through them all before. -- mno 14:25, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
The new images look great, but we've lost their logical ordering. Sashazlv 05:00, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Why is it under Khazar towns | History of Russia categories? Ilya K 17:32, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
The Kiev page says 1238, Mongol invasion of Rus says "After many days of siege, the horde stormed Kiev in December 1239.", and Danylo of Halych and Voivode Dmytro show the date as 1240 December 6. I suspect the Mongols started the attack in 1238 and took 2 years to capture Kiev. Can someone familiar with topic confirm the dates and fix this, please ? -- PFHLai 19:31, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the specific official date is, but there are some indications that the horrible destruction of Kiev attributed to the Mongol "hordes" were actually committed several years earlier by the neighbouring principalities. Maybe that is the source of the confusion? The year of destruction of Kiev vs. the year when the Mongols sieged it?--NightOnEarth 20:00, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
--Irpen 20:13, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
There are some false and/or ambiguous issues there:
Somebody fix, or move the whole section here - temporarily. Ukrained 18:51, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
I lack time, English and special rail terms, not factual info:) I just live here in this transportation system... I think we should closely work with WP-en trains and buses artilces&categories to harvest gizmo words and classification. Ukrained 19:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
IMHO, the existing structure of the sections is poorly readable and priority-missing. So I suggest the following plan of contents:
...
Please modify this structure below with your opinion. To my mind, we should analyze the experience of other megacities/capitals on WP.
I also suggest to establish the structure pattern for all big cities of Ukraine, based on the experience of Kiev. See the discussion here. Ukrained 13:03, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi everybody. In case if anyone interested, I came across the UNIAN Kyivv photogallery that seems to be free for using. Would somebody take a look,investigate the possibilities and start using them? As for me, I don't know how to handle WP images yet. P.S. Merry Orthodox Christmas for everybody! Ukrained 20:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
I have replaced
In World War II, the city was destroyed again, almost completely
with
In World War II, the city again suffered significant damage
This occurs in two places in the article.
While it is true that there was widespread destruction and some parts of the city were almost totally destroyed, overall, the destruction was not nearly as extensive as, say, in Warsaw. As anyone living in Kiev would confirm, there are many pre-war buildings in the city that still exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.52.4.207 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)