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Oppose Too much undue weight adding this to the main article, and enough information that a stub should be retained as-is. Nate•(chatter)02:22, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 2 April 2021. The result of the move review was procedural close – RM relisted by closer.
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. As pointed out in the discussion, WP:SHORTFORM is not a policy or guideline, unlike MOS:ACROTITLE (or WP:TITLEFORMAT in the article titles policy). It would need a very strong consensus to override an established policy or guideline, which clearly does not exist here. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe01:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. We have a standard of calling Major League Baseball by its full name on Wikipedia. If you want to start a discussion on whether to change that, this is not the correct place to start. Songwaters (talk) 00:37, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
support. I wanted to oppose because longform names, short of causing the title to linewrap, are better for readers, and searchers. However, “MLB” appears eg to have exactly one universally recognised meaning, and there is a definite logic to sub articles using the well recognised abbreviated name of the parent article, Major League Baseball. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:07, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The MOS is a guideline that has widespread consensus, while SHORTFORM is an explanatory supplement mostly written by the editor who first cited it above, that gets about one view per day. It "has not been thoroughly vetted by the community". The MOS should be given more weight. Station1 (talk) 04:21, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There is no reason to make a title more ambiguous. People outside of the US might not know what MLB stands for, while "Major League Baseball" makes the title much more clear. Also, WP:SHORTFORM is not a guideline, as can be seen by the message box at the top of its page, meaning that it holds much less weight than MOS:ACROTITLE, which is. --Gonnym (talk) 11:51, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SupportWP:SHORTFORM seems to follow the spirit of the policy WP:CONCISE. I can accept if MOS:ACROTITLE concludes that the Major League Baseball page itself should not be the abbreviated because it sounds more "professional". However, longer combinations like Major League Baseball All-Star Game are less used, and MLB All-Star Game is not ambiguous, even if one argued that plain "MLB" was. The WP:OTHERSTUFF argument is that we have plenty of NFL, NBA, and NHLs in descriptive titles. I don't buy the "people outside of the US" argument. The lead sentence would still clearly identify the subject, and redirects using the full name would be in place.—Bagumba (talk) 11:25, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The common term by which the game is known is "All-Star Game," not "MLB All-Star Game". We can't just call the article All-Star Game, however, because other leagues have their own All-Star Games. Therefore, it needs the identifier. Also, all articles about Major League Baseball subjects spell it out (such as Major League Baseball Rookie of the Year Award). Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 11:39, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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MLB All-Star Game → Major League Baseball All-Star Game – I did not see the RM that took place a few weeks ago, but clearly neither did most editors based on the low participation. I believe that nomination and the two support votes were mistaken. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations#Acronyms in page titles says Acronyms should be used in a page name if the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with the subject. The example it gives of that is NASA. Major League Baseball is not known primarily by the acronym "MLB". It would be reasonable to assume that people who are not so familiar with baseball may not know what "MLB" means. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support redirect back to Major League Baseball All-Star Game. In addition to Muboshgu's points, the standard on Wikipedia is to use Major League Baseball rather than MLB. Songwaters (talk) 15:26, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Article says: "While the Reds were a good offensive team, most baseball observers agreed that they did not deserve seven starters in the All-Star Game."
Since "most" does not mean "all," I'd be interested to know which baseball observers were satisfied with the results of the ballot box stuffing. Were they from Cincinnati? 74.104.189.176 (talk) 17:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The player selection section still reflects an era when the NL did not use the DH. Presumably, now that the DH is used in the NL, the fans get to vote on the NL DH in the all-star game, so it should be updated to say that. (utcml ) 🔒 ALL IN 🧿 17:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]