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@HouseBlaster: Maybe instead Template:Disestablishment by country and year category and Template:Disestablishment by US state and year category? Thoughts? SilverLocust💬 01:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HouseBlaster: Or how about Template:Disestablishment category by country and year and more broadly "[Dis]esablishment category by [place] and [time]" for related templates? SilverLocust💬 01:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Boune, Niger→Boune (currently a redirect back to Boune, Niger) (move·discuss) – Target title was disambiguated for another entry which till date hasn't been created. No primary topic claim however. Intrisit (talk) 03:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.
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It has been proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved.
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It has been proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved somewhere else, with the names being decided below.
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All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. It is a place for rational discussion of whether an article should be renamed.
There are a number of practices that most Wikipedians use in such discussions:
When editors recommend a course of action, they usually do so in bold text, e. g., Support or Oppose, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g. '''Support'''.
Start comments or recommendations on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *), and sign them by adding ~~~~ to the end. If you are responding to another editor, put your comment directly below theirs, making sure it is indented (using multiple *s).
Please disclose whether you have a vested interest in the article, per WP:AVOIDCOI.
Please have a look at the article before making a recommendation. Do not base your recommendation solely on the information supplied by the nominator or other editors. To understand the situation, it may also help to look at the history of the article. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior Requested Moves. They may contain relevant arguments and further useful information.
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Ideally editors should be familiar with WP:Article titles, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and WP:MOS (among others) which sets forth community norms for article titles.
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When making your case or responding to others, explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
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Also, just a reminder that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but valid arguments will be given more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers arguments or evidence that do not explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy, they may only need a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion. But a pattern of groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider a dispute resolution process outside the current Requested Move process.
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Relisting
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(Discuss) – Intercity Viaduct → Lewis and Clark Viaduct – Nobody calls both bridges the Intercity Viaduct, that a generic name that only refers to the eastbound span. Since its the official name anyways, I propose renaming it to Lewis and Clark viaduct. 174.206.160.153 (talk) 20:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Tahir Pasha (governor) → Tahir Pasha Bibezić – Instead of having "Tahir Pasha (Governer)", it looks more professional to have his full name as mentioned in many academic books and articles such as: Horel, Catherine; Severin-Barboutie, Bettina, eds. (2023). Population displacements and multiple mobilities in the late Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire and its heritage : politics, society and economy. Leiden ; Boston: Brill. ISBN 978-90-04-54368-3. Sukran Vahide (16 February 2012). Islam in Modern Turkey: An Intellectual Biography of Bediuzzaman Said Nursi. SUNY Press. ISBN 978-0-7914-8297-1. Gawrych, George (2006). The Crescent and the Eagle: Ottoman rule, Islam and the Albanians, 1874–1913. London: IB Tauris. p. 83. ISBN 9781845112875. Warfield, William (1916). The gate of Asia; a journey from the Persian gulf to the Black Sea. New York Public Library. New York, London, G.P. Putnam's Sons. Vahide, Sukran (2012-02-16). Islam in Modern Turkey: An Intellectual Biography of Bediuzzaman Said Nursi. State University of New York Press. ISBN 978-0-7914-8297-1. DOHMAN, Ümmügülsüm; KARAVİN YÜCE, Harika (2022-10-29). "Türkçe, Rusça ve İngilizce Deyimlerde "Zaman" Konsepti". Iğdır Üniversitesi Sosyal Bilimler Dergisi (31): 243–254. doi:10.54600/igdirsosbilder.1126598. ISSN 2147-5717. Ateş, Sabri (2013-10-21). Ottoman-Iranian Borderlands. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-139-52249-6. Büssow, Johann (2011-08-11). Hamidian Palestine. BRILL. ISBN 978-90-04-20569-7. Kieser, Hans-Lukas; Öktem, Kerem; Reinkowski, Maurus (2015). World War I and the End of the Ottomans. I.B. Tauris. ISBN 978-0-7556-0909-3. Kieser, Hans-Lukas; Öktem, Kerem; Reinkowski, Maurus (2015). World War I and the End of the Ottomans. I.B. Tauris. ISBN 978-0-7556-0909-3. KARAKUŞ, Sadık Emre (2023-07-31). "ENVER PAŞA'NIN TABUR MEKTEPLERİ DENEMESİ". Stratejik ve Sosyal Araştırmalar Dergisi. 7 (2): 357–373. doi:10.30692/sisad.1311443. ISSN 2587-2621. Çiçek, Talha (2017-08-21). "Benjamin C. Fortna. The Circassian: A Life of Eşref Bey, Late Ottoman Insurgent and Special Agent". Divan: Disiplinlerarası Çalışmalar Dergisi. doi:10.20519/divan.335631. ISSN 1309-6834. "Barrett, Edwin Cyril Geddes, (15 Feb. 1909–8 Feb. 1986)", Who Was Who, Oxford University Press, 2007-12-01, retrieved 2024-05-09 Dergisi (31): 243–254. doi:10.54600/igdirsosbilder.1126598. ISSN 2147-5717. "Rampal Singh, Raja, (7 Aug. 1867–20 March 1909), Fellow of the Allahabad University; Taluqdar of Kori Sadauli; Dh. Rai Bareli", Who Was Who, Oxford University Press, 2007-12-01, retrieved 2024-05-09 Ferko, Beria Kafali (2022-01-30). "Isa Boletini (1864-1916): An Ottoman Albanian Figure of Twists and Turns". Journal of Balkan Studies. 2 (1): 27–49. doi:10.51331/a17. ISSN 2671-3675. Helper2024 (talk) 18:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Tax Day protests → 2024 Pro-Palestinian Tax Day protests – There are multiple events that are called "tax day protests", and we already have articles about some of them, For example, the top Google result for "Tax day protests" is an event for which we have an article called Tax March. Others include Tea Party protests - there's no reason to name THIS protest as THE Tax Day protest without clarifying. Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 15:56, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Fashion Model → Fashion Model (film) – Formalising the discussion above. I'm neutral on the matter, but WP:DIFFCAPS may be relevant. If moving, we should also decide a target for the resulting redirect Fashion Model. Certes (talk) 15:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Ultra (rapid transit) → Ultra pod transit system – More WP:NATURAL and more clear than the current title. This was suggested without objection in the RM that was just closed. — BarrelProof (talk) 22:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:20, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Absolute Infinite → Absolute infinity – according to Infinity. Also, the title of an article must be written in lower case with the initial letter of the remaining words, when they are not proper nouns. --Χιονάκι (talk) 22:16, 30 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1 → Aqua Teen Hunger Force season 8 – Per WP:TVSEASON, A consistent naming scheme should be used for all season articles of a TV show: if one season is named something special, this should be noted through redirects and in the article's WP:LEAD, but the article should be named in the same fashion as the other season pages. "Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1" is clearly identified in prose as an alternative title for this season, but the article title should reflect consistency with the previous ones. – Rhain☔ (he/him) 14:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Mideeye → Mideeye party – I came across this article while doing NPP. Most political parties I've come across on Wikipedia usually have the term "party" in the article title. I am not sure what is common place in Somalia but a google search show "Mideeye party" being frequently used. I am happy for alternate suggestions. GMH Melbourne (talk) 12:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.ToadetteEdit! 11:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Ae Fond Kiss... → Ae Fond Kiss ... (film) – Since the proper name of the song is "Ae fond kiss and then we sever", it could reasonably be referred to with ellipses and hence they don't help disambiguate. * Pppery *it has begun... 20:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.ToadetteEdit! 11:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Ae Fond Kiss (song) → Ae fond kiss (song) – or Ae fond kiss and then we sever or Ae fond kiss, and then we sever (with a comma) – per MOS:INCIPIT. I don't really see the capitalized form in most of the cited sources as a distinct, separate title, and the opening sentence of the article doesn't render it in title case either. For either of the longer forms, no disambiguation would be needed. The comma seems to be present on the handwritten manuscript and in most sources (and in the lyrics rendered in the article). — BarrelProof (talk) 01:26, 2 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.ToadetteEdit! 11:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Douglass Houghton Falls → Houghton-Douglass Falls – to match corrected name in article... Jcurtis1114 (talk) 11:20, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Template:Slavery → Unfree labor – (Or Template:Unfree labour; don't care which, and both should work.) This template's scope has grown to encompass unfree labo[u]r that is not (except by fringe writers) classified as slavery, such as corvée (and it could also be applied sensibly at indentured servitude, impressment, and some others). So, both the name of the template and its heading should change to "Unfree labor" (and have a template parameter to switch it to "labour", or vice versa). An alternative, with regard to the heading, would be to change it to something like "Slavery and other unfree labor" (or "..labour"). Or, use "forced" instead of "unfree"; I don't really care about the exact terminology, so much as the scope being accurate. — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 09:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Iranian consulate airstrike in Damascus → Israeli airstrike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus – The current title could be interpreted as either an airstrike by Iran or on Iran; the proposed title makes the topic clearer. It is also widely reported and WP:DUE to include the fact that Israel launched the airstrike. BilledMammal (talk) 06:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Rhizotomy → Selective Dorsal Rhizotomy – I read this entire article and barely caught the Note at the bottom letting me know it was not in fact about the topic I had come for. The note gives a clear, unambiguous term "Selective Dorsal Rhizotomy", which seems like it would be a good new name for the article. At the very least, if the move is contested, the note should be converted back to a Hatnote so others don't wind up in my situation. The John Hopkins page on Rhizotomy (archive) seems to cover all of the procedures, not just this one for spasticity. Cleveland Clinic refers to Rhizotomy as an "umbrella term". rubah (talk) 02:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Public sector undertakings → Public sector undertakings of India – The term is not technically specific to India (which certainly seems to be the main user of it), but this article is. State-owned enterprise is the article on the topic and states, These state owned enterprises are also known as public sector undertakings in some countries. (India is definitely one of them.) Moved from the title of Public sector undertakings in India by User:The Doom Patrol in October 2023. I don't think this is the natural disambiguation case that editor thought it was. The proposed "of" matches the eight pages on SOEs by country, such as State-owned enterprises of China. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – James Reid (rugby) → James Reid (1870s rugby player) – for disambiguation from James Reid (rugby union, born 1876). They were both Scottish, so including the country does not disambiguate. Pageviews show neither as very dominant, and both pages have about one view every three days or less. — BarrelProof (talk) 21:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Rashtrakuta Empire → Rashtrakutas – Ngram graph [3] suggests that the term Rashtrakutas have been used throughout commonly, and much WP:RS refers it in similar way. In JSTOR, 320 results for "Rashtrakutas" [4] 288 results for "Rashtrakuta dynasty" [5], and 17 results for "Rashtrakuta Empire" [6]. The pattern repeats in most of the WP:RSImperial[AFCND] 18:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.– robertsky (talk) 20:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Empathogen–entactogen → Empathogen – These drugs are called either "empathogens" or "entactogens" but I've never seen them called "empathogen–entactogens". I suggest we pick one and make the other a redirect. Mike Selinker (talk) 20:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Born to Be Alive → Born to Be Alive (album) – The article was originally about the song. At some point, someone added the album below the song information. Later that information was removed here.[7]. In 2019, the song was inappropriately copypasted to a subpage [8]. The links were never fixed and several links pointing to this page are meant to be linked to the song instead. I am not opposed to move Born to Be Alive (song) back, but Born to Be Alive (album) is not the primary topic. (CC)Tbhotch™ 18:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – TM103: Hustlerz Ambition → TM103 Hustlerz Ambition – I feel that the incorrect location of the colon at the end of the title is more incorrect than the omission of the colon, but others may feel differently. I see there is a former RM above this that addressed the full title name but the colon placement was maintained following the move, and I feel it is more incorrect than the aforementioned alternative. microbiologyMarcus[petri dish·growths] 18:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Who Killed...... The Zutons? → Who Killed the Zutons? – or Who Killed the Zutons (without the question mark) – or Who Killed ... the Zutons? – or Who Killed ... the Zutons (without the question mark). This is the only article title I can find on Wikipedia that includes more than five consecutive dots in its title (and I found only four that have five consecutive dots). That's a rather strange form, and it is not supported consistently in the cited sources. Although the album cover does include six dots, most of the cited sources appear to just use "Who Killed the Zutons?" (or "Who Killed The Zutons?", which Wikipedia would not do), with or without the question mark at the end. Some use an ordinary three-dot ellipsis (with or without spaces around the ellipsis). Also, as pointed out in 2012 by nagualdesign, the album cover and many sources omit the question mark. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Armenian alphabet → Armenian script – This article encompasses more than just the alphabet; it covers the entire script. The alphabet is merely one part of it. I noticed that a move was already requested. Previously, the main argument against this was that the Armenian script is used exclusively for the Armenian language. However, similar articles about native Caucasian scripts are titled Caucasian Albanian script and Georgian scripts, even though they are predominantly used for a single language as well. Moreover, the Armenian script has occasionally been used for other languages, as exemplified by the Armeno-Turkish alphabet and the relevant section in this article. Therefore, to ensure consistency, I propose the move. Aldij (talk) 13:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Gulf & Atlantic Railways → Pinsly Railroad Company (2024) – Although sources explicitly saying such are lacking, the original Pinsly Railroad Company was defunct after selling its last shortline to Gulf & Atlantic Railways in 2023. Gulf & Atlantic Railways has now renamed itself Pinsly Railroad Company. This is a separate company with a separate history, so a merge is not appropriate. Neither topic is the obvious WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Post-move, Pinsly Railroad Company should be a disambiguation page. Mackensen(talk) 11:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – James Beck → James Beck (actor) – There are eight men listed upon the James Beck (disambiguation) page, with little likelihood that the supporting actor, who died more than half a century ago, has continued to retain such renown that it overshadows the combined notability of the remaining seven men. — Roman Spinner(talk • contribs) 04:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Ave Maria ... Virgo serena → Ave Maria ... virgo serena – The article is inconsistent about the capitalization of "Virgo". The cited sources and the quoted lyrics and most other sources seem to use lowercase. Note that "serena" is lowercase in the title, so it isn't following the English MOS:CT convention. The language is Latin. The title is arguably an WP:INCIPIT. Ngrams here seem to show the proposed form as the most common. — BarrelProof (talk) 04:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – And Here She Is ... Ann-Margret → And Here She Is – I don't see the ellipsis or her name as part of the album's title in most cited sources. Some use a dash instead of ellipsis and some just omit her name from the title. It's somewhat unclear whether the name is intended to be part of the title or is separate as an identification of the artist. On the album cover, her name is in a different font and color, and there is no punctuation. Omitting her name from the title is the WP:CONCISE approach, and the shortened title is a red link, so it does not appear to be ambiguous. — BarrelProof (talk) 21:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Sen dollotar Ulaid ... → Sén dollotar Ulaid – Suggesting to add the diacritic and remove the ellipsis. I don't see a reason or citation to justify the ellipsis. — BarrelProof (talk) 21:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Allan Chappelow → Murder of Allan Chappelow – I believe WP:1E applies here. I see no indication that Chappelow's life and work was particularly noteworthy before he was murdered, particularly since all the sources about the details of his life are ones relating to the murder case. Furthermore, the majority of the article is about the trial and conviction of Wang Yam for allegedly murdering Chappelow and the censoring of media reporting of the trial on national security grounds. Therefore it is clear that this page is focused more on the murder than on Chappelow himself, as that is the only part that is especially noteworthy. Tulzscha (talk) 17:12, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Øresund Region → Greater Copenhagen Region – The Øresund Region was created as a transnational Danish-Swedish collaboration in 1993. The official name of the region was changed to the Greater Copenhagen Region in 2018. See also the already on-going discussion in the previous section on this talk page for further details. See for instance this source from Nordregion (an international research centre for regional development and planning). As mentioned above, I don't think it makes sense to distinguish between the official collaboration and a "real" Øresund Region. See also this official white paper for the use of the name. Ramblersen2 (talk) 16:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Laufey → Laufey (mythology) – I'm requesting to move the singer to Laufey because it seems that most people are looking for the singer. The pageviews show that the singer gets 10x the amount of views constantly. PS this is my first RM so please be patient: I'm still figuring this out. - The Sharpest Lives 14:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Pala Empire → Pala dynasty – The name "Pala Empire", isn't appropriate to use over "Pala dynasty". # See Ngram viewer [9] "Pala dynasty" leads over "Pala Empire" and "Pala Kingdom". # In JSTOR, [10], 344 results for "Pala dynasty", [11] 61 results for "Pala Empire". # In ProQuest, [12] 714 results for "Pala dynasty", and [13] 222 results for "Pala Empire" # In Library of Congres, Pala dynasty[14]>Pala Empire [15]. Imperial[AFCND] 12:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – S.E.A. Write Award → SEA Write Award – MOS:ABBR, MOS:TM. Wikipedia doesn't use "X.Y.Z." old-fashioned acronym/initialism stylization, even when some external entity prefers it. A quick review of external source material [16][17][18][19] about this subject shows that numerous other publishers also write it "SEA Write Award[s]" not "S.E.A. Write Award[s]", following their own internal style guides, as we certainly should. (Indeed, it appears that the actual majority do, outside of a certain sector of news publishers, but Wikipedia is not written in news style as a matter of policy, anyway.) There is nothing "magically special" about this case that demands an exception. It is entirely sufficient that the dot-laden version will redirect to the more WP:CONCISE and WP:CONSISTENT dotless title. — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 02:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Phonograph → Record player – Phonograph is a very old term that isn't common and widely recognised today - it may have been suitable if this was an article strictly about something historic but this is something current too. Today the common name is a "Record Player", or a "Turntable" (often interchangable but the latter is strictly about a specific type of record player). See WP:COMMON it applies here. Sateystnes (talk) 23:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Michael Malone (basketball) → Michael Malone – Imagine this gets contested, and I think that is worthwhile. But, the basketball coach over the last month has averaged 1683 pageviews daily and over 52,000 total. Its median is 1431 views. Of all the pages with "Michael Malone", the basketball coach accounts for 97.9% of all pageviews. Since 5/4/23, he accounts for 97.2% of all pageviews. This, despite seven other pages. As a result, I do believe the basketball coach should have the base, non-disambiguated named for "Michael Malone". Debartolo2917 (talk) 01:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 15:41, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 1989 → AD 1989 – The WP:PT1 (the Taylor Swift album) has ~9.5 times the pageviews of the WP:PT2 (the year). This massive split possibly means there is WP:NOPRIMARY, and WP:RECENTISM likely does not apply as the album is more than nine-and-a-half years old. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 14:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – List of NBCUniversal television programs → List of Comcast television programs – This article lists shows produced by Sky Studios (and it's subsidiaries), which is not part of NBCUniversal but rather part of Sky Group, another company owned by Comcast. Additionally, Sky has its own section in the article with other companies that are owned by NBCU, which is misleading and confusing as it can make people assume it's part of NBCU. It would be more suitable if most of the sections were put into an NBCU section, which would exist with the Sky section. Inpops (talk) 18:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.ToadetteEdit! 14:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Upper Silesian metropolitan area → ? – While "Upper Silesian metropolitan area" is a common name, virtually all available sources, including academic papers (as I listed here), actually define the term as wikidata:Q125563738 (which is currently shortly described in Katowice urban area#Metropolitan area), while the article text describes a much bigger area of wikidata:Q3495359. Other names appearing for the latter area in academic and research papers are Silesian-Moravian polycentric metropolitan area and Katowice-Ostrava metropolitan area. Sources and initial discussion about the names is available on the talk page. After the move, due to a long-lasting confusion, I propose that the "Upper Silesian metropolitan area" name should be a disambugation page between the two entities, looking for example like this. Dżamper (talk) 13:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Bajaar → Bajjar – This article should be moved to appropriate title name because this title is incorrect even in first two references clan name is narrated as Bajjar not Bajaar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.172.167.253 (talk) 02:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes → Attack of Azerbaijan on Armenia – I have not seen a single reliable source saying that Armenia attacked Azerbaijan. But multiple reliable sources say the opposite. Various sources describe the events as an “invasion”, “offensive”, “attack”, or “assault.” There is consensus that Azerbaijan was the one who initiated the hostilities. Some talk about “Azerbaijan’s Invasion of Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Offensive on Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Attack on Armenia”, but they all agree on one thing: Azerbaijan was the initiator of the clash, and it was Azerbaijan who attacked. Therefore, the title “Attack of Azerbaijan on Armenia” perfectly reflects the vast majority of reliable sources and is the least ambiguous. I will provide the overwhelming evidence below: * Human Rights Watch: :“The killings took place during fighting between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces that broke out in mid-September, when Azerbaijan made incursions into Armenia...” * Genocide Watch: :“Azerbaijani military attacks on Armenian territory show Azerbaijani disregard for Armenian sovereignty.” * Freedom House: :“Freedom House Condemns Azerbaijani Attacks on Armenia” :“The Azerbaijani armed forces must immediately cease their deadly attacks on Armenian territory” * Axel Gehring, Ph.D., political scientist and expert in the field of foreign and security policy and researcher at the Institute for Critical Social Analysis of the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation in Berlin: :“On September 13, regular Azerbaijani troops launched a large-scale attack on Armenian territory. This attack took tensions between the countries to a new level.” * Laurence Broers is a specialist in conflicts in the Transcaucasus, founder of the scientific journal Caucasus Survey: :"Azerbaijan's recent attack seeks to enforce terms in negotiations with Armenia"“ The recent large-scale cross-border attacks inside Armenia by Azerbaijan...” * Maximilian Hess, Research Fellow for Central Asia at the Foreign Policy Institute, in Foreign Policy magazine: :“Azerbaijani forces who marched into Armenia continue to occupy part of its territory, in particular heights around the town of Jermuk.” * David L. Phillips, conflict analyst in The National Interest: :“The United States criticized Azerbaijan's recent attacks on Armenia proper” * European Parliament Resolution: :“Strongly condemns the latest military aggression by Azerbaijan on September 12, 2022 on the sovereign territory of Armenia” :“calls on the Azerbaijani authorities, therefore, to immediately withdraw from all parts of the territory of Armenia “ * Wojciech Gorecki, senior researcher at the Department of Turkey, Caucasus and Central Asia: :“in September 2022 Azerbaijan attacked targets located on Armenian territory.” * The Guardian: : “This week, with attention focused across the Black Sea in Ukraine, fighting on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia killed about 100 troops after Azerbaijan shelled a number of towns in Armenia, with both sides accusing each other of “provocations”.” * Der Spiegel: : “Peace negotiations mediated by the European Union have been at an impasse since Baku also attacked territory in the Republic of Armenia in September 2022.” * TIME: : “...democratic nation that was recently invaded by its authoritarian neighbor” : “...but also Armenia, which has been suffering from Azerbaijan's invasion for almost three weeks now.” * BBC: : “I don’t think anyone doubts that Azerbaijan started this operation on the territory of Armenia. Even Azerbaijani commentators admit this. Armenia is currently weak, has little interest in disrupting the status quo.” * Eurasianet :"Azerbaijan launches large-scale attacks on Armenia" :“Azerbaijan launched a large-scale attack on targets in Armenia, an unprecedented expansion of the long-running conflict into Armenian territory.” * Michael Rubin, senior researcher at AIP: :“Last week, Azerbaijan attacked Armenia proper. (Last week Azerbaijan attacked Armenia directly)” * Paul Stronski is a senior fellow in the Carnegie Russia and Eurasia Programs, specializing in Russia and the South Caucasus: : “..the fact that Russia is preoccupied, certainly led to what looks like an Azerbaijani offensive at this time” : “And what we even saw just in the last few days is actually attacks inside and shelling inside cities inside Armenia, not just along the border." * Kapil Komireddy, political columnist for The Telegraph: : “But so little about Azerbaijan's attack, which goes beyond the disputed territory of Karabakh and targets Armenia proper.” *Seth Franzman, Middle East analyst for The Jerusalem Post , contributor to Defense News, The National Interest and Digest of Middle East Studies: :“Attacks on Armenia represent dangerous escalation” *Carnegie Europe: :“Nearly 300 soldiers died in a large-scale Azerbaijani incursion into the territory of Armenia on September 13-14.”Vanezi (talk) 21:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Bidar Sultanate → Barid Shahi dynasty – Bidar Sultanate is a PoV fabricated named, whereas Barid Shahi dynasty is more common per Ngram [20]. Note the fact that Ngram is not even available for Bidar Sultanate. Imperial[AFCND] 13:37, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Berar Sultanate → Imad Shahi dynasty – Berar Sultanate is more likely a fabricated PoV name, even Ngram is not available for Berar Sultanate [21]. Commonname per reliable publishers, and more appropriate to name for a Dynasty. Imperial[AFCND] 13:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – WIC → WIC program – This had been moved in 2009 with Talk:WIC/Archive 1#Requested move after a rather weak consensus with very few participants. The argument back then revolved around Google Search results, but there was no note of even trying to use pws=0 (meaning we could have just been seeing the proposer's personal search results) nor was there a coherent discussion on why general search results are more relevant than the use and significance of the other meanings of the term. Only one other person participated, and they proposed WIC (nutrition program) as they recognized the ambiguity. As the references to the US government program often come as part of the phrase with the word "program", I suggest we switch to using that. A number of other topics from WIC (disambiguation) seem to have comparable usage and significance, cf. all-time views of all of those items, notably the Dutch West India Company. So it's not at all clear that the nutrition program would overshadow the sum of these; we should restore disambiguation and observe the clickstreams to gauge the actual reader interest (something we also couldn't do in '09). --Joy (talk) 13:06, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Hedwig of Holstein → Helvig of Holstein – Helvig is more common in English language as indicated by sources collected above in #Sources. However, the number of sources is so small that WP:USENATIVE might be applicable; this would also favor Helvig. The suggested name would also disambiguate this person from another Hedvig of Holstein, the mother of Christian I, who AFAIK is never referred to as 'Helvig' (See sources at Talk:Hedvig of Holstein). Jähmefyysikko (talk) 05:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Karasi → Karasi (horse) – The homonymous historical figure in Anatolia is the primary topic: [23]Aintabli (talk) 22:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – NoCopyrightSounds → NCS (record label) – An attempt to move this page to NCS (British record label) was recently challenged on WP:COMMONNAME grounds, and the company recently began using their initialism for marketing and official branding. This discussion is now required to determine if NCS is the new COMMONNAME for the subject. Jalen Folf(Bark[s]) 19:11, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – International Islamic University, Islamabad → International Islamic University – Definitely WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as International Islamic University already redirects here. There is no other university solely titled "International Islamic University" (IIU) except this one per it's website [iiu.edu.pk]. It's official name does not include "Islamabad' in it (الجامعة الإسلامية العالمية, romanized: al-Jāmʿia al-ʾIslāmiyya al-ʾĀlamiyya). The universities in the disambiguation contain an extra-letter such as IIUM, IIUC, UniSHAMS e.g. Only this one, in Islamabad, contains only IIU. LolingTom (talk) 15:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Bengaluru Airport → Bangalore Airport – This article has gone through a number of move changes but the most recent discussion (seen above) concluded that it should be named Bengaluru Airport. One editor has unilaterally moved the article to reflect the airport's official name without opening a new discussion which I have undone. However, upon reflection, I feel that the WP:COMMONNAME for this article would be Bangalore Airport. This would reflect the consensus seen at Talk:Bangalore#Requested_move_21_March_2024 that Bangalore is the common name of the city, not Bengaluru. Bangalore is also what major English-speaking international carriers describe the airport as including United [24] and British Airways [25]. Qantas, meanwhile, feels the need to clarify that Bengaluru is Bangalore using quotations further underlining that Bangalore is more common [26]. Avgeekamfot (talk) 11:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz → Abu Lu'lu'a – Per the above discussions of the page title. "Abu Lu'lu'a" is an unambiguous title for the subject and the WP:COMMONNAME apparent in English language scholarship. The appellation of Firuz after this name is something that only comes from a handful of sources by comparison, and was partly done as a form of compromise (an offering to Iranian readers) in the hope of warding off naming disputes. It was unsuccessful in the latter, while the overarching naming confusion has now been conclusively resolved. Since compromise, while sometimes necessary, is not really a policy or guidleline, it seems like this unnecessary addition (which adds no precision, but does detract from concision and muddies the common name) can be dispensed with. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:10, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – UST Golden Tigresses volleyball → UST Golden Tigresses – Technical move requested, because the desired new name is currently the title of a redirect page. Request as per WP:CONCISE and WP:PRECISE. As regards the discussion points addressed towards a prior requested move (see discussion under title "Requested move 2 September 2022"), my observation is that the US naming convention of "<team name> <sport>" (without the word "team"), as per WP:CBBALL and WP:CFB, is only applied when the sports team's name in question perfectly corresponds to its mother team's name (e.g. "Abilene Christian Wildcats men's basketball" for the men's basketball team of the mother team called Abilene Christian Wildcats). My corollary request is that teams whose names do not perfectly correspond to the name of their mother team be excluded from this naming convention or ruling. In the case of UST Golden Tigresses, for instance, applying that naming convention would be confusing, especially as there are no other sports teams carrying the same name. The confusion could be further complicated by the grammatical sense wherein the article seems to claim to be about a kind of volleyball played by the UST Golden Tigresses rather than simply being about that team. Bagoto (talk) 06:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – NSW TrainLink Regional Train Project → New South Wales R set – This is the official designation for the class; see source in lead. This would follow convention (excepting New South Wales XPT/Xplorer/Endeavour, but such an equivalent name does not presently exist for these trains) Will Thorpe (talk) 05:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Foote → Foote (surname) – There are eight entries listed upon the Foote (disambiguation) page, with little indication that users who would type "Foote" are searching for individuals named "Foote" to a degree greater than the combined searches for the remaining seven entries. Even some users researching medical details pertaining to "Foot" may inadvertently type the "e" and wind up at the surname, rather than at the more helpful Foote (disambiguation) page which features a link to Foot (disambiguation). — Roman Spinner(talk • contribs) 22:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – When the Pawn... → When the Pawn ... – Per MOS:ELLIPSIS, there should be a space before the dots. We could also hypothetically use a longer title; I notice several of the cited sources go up to the word "King", so we could use When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks like a King ... (please confirm MOS:CT about the lowercase "like") or at least go as far as "Conflicts", as in When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts ... — BarrelProof (talk) 20:16, 11 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.EggRoll97(talk) 22:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Battle of Jackson → Battle of Jackson (disambiguation) – The battle in Mississippi is the primary topic for "Battle of Jackson". The Tennessee battle was a minor cavalry raid whereas the battle in Mississippi was a major battle during the Vicksburg campaign. Without any context, "Battle of Jackson" refers to the Mississippi battle, it is the Tennessee battle alone that should require disambiguation. The Mississippi article is getting ~5x the page views. Hatnotes can easily address the other topics; the dab page can probably be deleted but might as well move it for now. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 21:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Kyle Hamilton (American football) → Kyle Hamilton – The current page for "Kyle Hamilton" is a disambiguation page with only two people, the football player, and a rower of the same name. The football player averages 249 out of 254 daily page views across the three pages, and 98.6% of all pageviews since the beginning of April, despite the NFL not being in season. The football player should have the base, non-disambiguated name, and move the disambiguation page to "Kyle Hamilton (disambiguation)". Debartolo2917 (talk) 15:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). microbiologyMarcus[petri dish·growths] 17:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 21:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Shake Your Moneymaker → Shake Your Money Maker – Although the song is sometimes spelled with a spaced "Money Maker", mostly in covers, all instances of "Shake Your Moneymaker", unspaced, refer to the song, as that was the spelling used on the original Elmore James version. So, per WP:SMALLDIFFS and WP:CONCISE, this title should be that of the song article, and the dab title should have a space. Mach61 23:38, 18 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 21:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – State (Bell/Springvale) Highway → Bell Street – This is not the WP:COMMON NAME, is unknown to drivers and is not on any signs, and is not a nickname or anything of the sort. Bell Street and Springvale Road, separately, are notable, but the route as a whole isn't. I have created two new articles with appropriate citations, Draft:Bell Street and Draft:Springvale Road. These drafts also have a lot less WP:EXCESSDETAIL. I am proposing firstly a WP:SPLIT to create the Springvale Road article, noting the diff it was split from on this article in the split talk template, then move this article to Bell Street and change the content. It is better to do this instead of deleting this article and creating two new ones to preserve the history for attribution. After that, I propose to create a new disambiguation article at State (Bell/Springvale) Highway. Then I would fix the incoming links to it to point to either Bell Street or Springvale Road directly. Listing under an RM instead of requested split because it is not a traditional split (keep original article at same title and put existing section to new article) and RM is necessary to move the article, and I'm not going to make these drastic changes without listing it for discussion MarkiPoli (talk) 07:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 21:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Callum "Halfway" Highway → Callum Highway – With all due respect, he hasn't been called "Halfway" in a long time. He is no longer credited as such and most news sources published within the last few years just call him Callum Highway. The show itself acknowledged that nobody really calls him Halfway anymore so I was just wondering if it was time for a move. Thanks! FishLoveHam (talk) 08:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 21:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – John McKay Jr. → J. K. McKay – McKay was known throughout his professional career by his initials, not by the junior suffix. APM (talk) 14:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 16:48, 21 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 21:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza → ? – I'm unsure what the new title should be, but I'm sure that this one has an issue. The Israeli attack on Gaza has gone past 2023 into 2024. So, we can't keep the "2023 Israeli attack on Gaza" part. Perhaps we could change it to "Allegations of genocide perpetrated by Israel in the Israel–Hamas war", "Allegations of genocide in Gaza in the Israel–Hamas war", or something different. Note that "2023 Israeli attack on Gaza" just redirects to Israel–Hamas war. Paul Vaurie (talk) 19:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Final Fantasy XIV (2010 video game) → Final Fantasy XIV (2010 version) – The idea that FFXIV's 2010 version is a separate game is incorrect. A Realm Reborn is simply an update, if a very major one that vastly modified how the game worked. There is no question that the primary topic is A Realm Reborn, but it should have a disambiguation that accurately sums up what it is. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Yes You Can → Yes You Can (TV program) – Not a proper WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over the Steve Harley album (and the Emeli Sandé song and the slogan, and I suspect there are other topics worth listing on a disambiguation page, along with some "See also" items). Two-year pageviews chart here (showing a spike for the album about a month ago for an unfortunate reason). — BarrelProof (talk) 16:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Gajapati Empire → Gajapatis of Orissa – According to the Ngram, Gajapatis of Orissa is widely used than "Gajapati Empire" or "Gajapati Kingdom" [27]. Another thing to be noted is that not much WP:RS calls the kingdom by the name "Empire", but Gajapatis itself. Imperial[AFCND] 09:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Safari ScribeEdits!Talk! 16:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Pistol Shrimp → Pistol Shrimp (video game company) – Per WP:DIFFCAPS. The current name is likely to be confused with Alpheidae, and may frustrate readers who are expecting to land on the article for the primary topic. Disambiguation of a single capitalised letter compared to Pistol shrimp is unlikely to be sufficient. Melmann 12:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Doctor Who series 14 → Doctor Who season 1 (2024) – I'm starting a formal requested move here based on the discussion above. As a series that has been on the air for 60-years, Doctor Who is a rare case that is not covered by Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television): there are two sets of seasons within the series that have the same name: "Doctor Who season 1" and "Doctor Who season 2. Multiple proposals have been suggested, but this seemed to be the one that gained the most support. However, a disputing editor noted that there were no notices at the top of the affected pages, and although I supported the move, I concurred with the point. Additional suggestions on possible titles are still welcome, but this should hopefully give us an idea of where we stand. Notes: 1) Previous discussions can be read in the sections above; 2) Due to "season" and "series" being used to refer to a set of episodes that air within a given year, I have used "season" to refer to the aforementioned set of episodes and "series" to refer to the programme as a whole.TheDoctorWho(talk) 04:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Discuss) – Jin–Song Wars → Jin–Song wars – It is obvious from the 2014 RM discussion above that this is a made-up-on-Wikipedia descriptive title, not a proper name. Books with lowercase wars are easy to find. Dicklyon (talk) 03:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Vincent Lee Chuan Leong → 1999 Singapore kidnapping case – The current title is effectively WP:BLP1E and WP:BLPCRIME. "Kidnapping of X" may not work given that the victim's name is generally not available outside, and even if so, we should generally avoid naming the victim here was 14yo when it happened. The proposed title is a descriptive one, and if there is a better alternative title, I am amenable to the proposed title as well. – robertsky (talk) 14:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.asilvering (talk) 22:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:23, 7 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Sennecaster (Chat) 01:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Gunge → Slime (slapstick) – I agree with the above request from 13 May 2023, which was not formatted as a Requested Move and also never responded to. I propose Slime (slapstick) as the shortest unambiguous new title. Matt Gies (talk) 23:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Manpool → Northern England supercity – With reference to the article title criteria, "Northern England supercity" is likely to be more: * recognisable than the specific neologism Manpool (or the alternative, Liverchester) * naturally used and searched for, given that supercity is an established term * appropriately precise, avoiding WP:OVERPRECISION, as both John Prescott and Will Alsop's visions mentioned in the article were about more than just Liverpool and Manchester, extending to Hull, Leeds etc. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 22:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Rita Sullivan → Rita Tanner – It's been twelve years now since the character was married and her name changed, and the Google searches now support her common name as Rita Tanner. Google results show "Rita Tanner Coronation Street" as 371,000 results, with Sullivan on 322,000. Narrowing it to news results, Rita Tanner is on 300+ (the number stays at "about 300" for all results above), with Sullivan on 299. When you narrow it to books, Rita Tanner once again brings up far more relevant results as a more recognisable name attached to the series. There is no good reason to keep using the character's old name after all this time. Ooh, Fruity (talk) 21:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Sapphic → Sapphic (disambiguation) – Now, sapphism already exists and explains the meaning of sapphic as the primary topic, as it's directly derived from Sappho. I propose renaming it and retargeting Sapphic to sapphism. --MikutoHtalk! 21:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Spanish fly → Spanish fly (insect) – It seems doubtful that people are looking for a particular literal insect species when seeking information about "Spanish fly". The earlier requested move discussion in 2006 seems to have been before other topics and naming conventions were as well established as they are today. See also the other discussions of the article title in the Talk page archive. I suggest there is no primary topic, as people could also be looking for the substance exuded by the beetle or the general notion of a folk-medicine aphrodisiac. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Lingaa loss issue → Lingaa loss issues – Or anything else! Judging from the size of the article, Lingaa faced numerous troubles and not just one. Kailash29792(talk) 18:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – KAAL (TV) → KAAL – The proposed title already redirects here and is the only topic associated with the term to be primarily capitalized. People are not likely to type "KAAL" looking for "Kaal". Moved in 2019 without discussion by Mvcg66b3r. See also Talk:WNPT#Requested move 8 July 2023. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Epstein didn't kill himself → Conspiracy theories about Jeffrey Epstein's death – The current title of this article falls short of the requirements for non-neutral titles stipulated by policy, while also not being sufficiently descriptive for those unfamiliar to identify the topic and scope of the article at a glance. While "Epstein didn't kill himself" is doubtless the common name of the subject of the article, it also falls under both circumstances under which Wikipedia articles should ideally avoid non-neutral common names detailed at WP:POVNAME. It is unlikely to be remembered or repeated in the future, and a more encyclopedic alternative exists as an option, as other articles about similar conspiracies exist with more neutral titles. Conspiracy theories about Adolf Hitler's death exists as a precedent, and 9/11 conspiracy theories is not titled "Bush did 9/11", for instance. As such, I believe the article should be moved to another title which both more clearly identifies the topic of the article and complies with NPOV. silviaASH(inquire within) 17:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Wikipedia:WikiProject Weather/Tornadoes of XXXX criteria → Wikipedia:WikiProject Weather/Tornadoes of YYYY criteria – As this is referring to years, the conventional abbrevation for that is YYYY, and that will be much clearer than XXXX (which also looks a lot like "XXX", and I don't want someone noticing over my shoulder what I'm reading/editing to think I'm looking at some kind of internet porn site). — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 05:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Bensci54 (talk) 16:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Discuss) – Roberta → Roberta (musical) – (no preference between finding the name primary or deciding there's no primary and making the dab the base name) Doesn't clear the field in pageviews (not even counting people) and little impression in Google Books/Scholar searches. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 01:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 2024 Ju County attack → 2024 Ju County massacre – I've just renamed this article, adding the year (2024) into the start of the article, but I'm not sure if it's the best. I personally see how this could be a massacre rather than merely an attack considering how attacks with fewer casualties were referred to a "massacre" (examples: Columbine High School massacre and Munich massacre). Really what is a massacre as per common name isn't very stringently defined, and I'd like to start a discussion as to whether this constitutes as a massacre or not, and which specific noun should be used as this article's title. Josethewikier (talk) 14:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Jon Kent (DC Comics) → Jon Kent (DC Comics, 2015) – WP:NATURALDAB -- this character was created in 2015 with the full name Jonathan Samuel Kent. Other DC characters named Jon Kent that preceded 2015 are not this character. This is not an overview article of Jon Kents in DC Comics, nor the Smallville father of Clark, nor Jon Lane Kent. "Jon Kent (DC Comics)" should be an overview article or list article of DC Comics characters with that name. Jon Kent (disambiguation) already lists several DC topics. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 11:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 65.92.247.66 (talk) 22:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis → Armenia–Azerbaijan border dispute – Armenia-Azerbaijan border dispute has a long history that started in 1990s, when both countries became independent from the USSR. It is not a single crisis, but rather a continuous over 3 decades long border dispute that sometimes escalated to hostilities. In addition, there are currently border delimitation talks with parties agreeing on delimiting certain sections of the border. I believe the proposed name better reflects all those aspects of the situation. Grandmaster 10:51, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Nihon Shōgakkō fire → Japanese mission school fire – per WP:USEENGLISH, even in article it's stated 'English-language newspapers covering the incident in 1923 usually called it the Japanese mission school fire or the Buddhist mission fire.'. The article title appears to be just the school's old Japanese name given from the website with 'fire' added to it - there is no evidence of 'Nihon Shōgakkō fire' that doesn't appear to be WP:CIRCULAR, I also couldn't find any evidence of the presumable Japanese translation of the title. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 05:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – AFC Championship Game → AFC championship game – Use sentence case since this is not a proper name – not nearly consistently capped in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 17:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Theory of forms → Theory of Forms – I'd like to reopen this discussion. The lead for the last few years has hinged on capitalization to show that the word "Form" here is being used in a technical philosophical way rather than in the everyday use of the English word "form". Although not all scholarly sources follow this convention, plenty do, and it's common to even find sources explicitly making special note of this capitalization. Examples of such sources include: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc. Wolfdog (talk) 15:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Ontario minister's zoning orders controversy → Minister's Zoning Orders – The current title is unreasonably biased and specific. There is no page Minister's Zoning Orders so the word Ontario is unnecessary. The word controversy is too charged and should not be there. Legend of 14 (talk) 02:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Feda (disambiguation) → ? – Yet another dab without a primary topic. The topic we currently cover at the title Feda (a small village in Norway) is marginally notable at best. Based on pageview data, it seems that the primary topic might actually be Iron-deficiency anemia (a redirect), which outranks second place (Transport in Ireland) by an astounding factor of ten. However, googling "feda" reveals a mix of things, so maybe dabbing is better. Duckmather (talk) 01:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Cumnock (original) railway station → Old Cumnock railway station – I've been tidying up disambiguation for former railway stations in Scotland per WP:UKSTATIONDAB and I'm not 100% sure what the best solution is for these two stations. The first was a Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway station opened as Old Cumnock in 1850, renamed to Cumnock in 1955 and closed in 1965. The second was a Glasgow and South Western Railway station that was only ever known as Cumnock, opened in 1872 and closed in 1951. I feel the natural disambiguation (using Old Cumnock and Cumnock) works best as there was only a brief period where the first station was known as Cumnock and they had different names when they were both in operation. The other options for disambiguation don't really work either as they are both in the same town and they were both run by the same company as the Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway became the Glasgow and South Western Railway shortly after the first station opened. The current naming pattern doesn't work with the policy so they will have to move, I don't know what the disambiguation for the second station should be though as their is also a Cumnock railway station in Australia and Cumnock railway station needs to be a dab page. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 10:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 23:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – I Am... (Beyoncé tour) → I Am... World Tour – This request is to restore the former name of the page. The previous move was closed under a quintaessential example of why supervoting is inappropriate and why Wikipedia is built upon consensus and not a polling democracy. The argument provided by the closer, @BilledMammal:, reads as follows: Consensus to move per WP:PRECISION; the current title is ambiguous. Ambiguity was never a reason provided for the move by itself; the argument was "There are multiple albums by multiple artists called I Am which could be easily confused as being the subject of this tour", which is not a valid argument to move a page. The tour is not a subsection of an album to argue such thing. Furthermore, being ambiguous is not a reason to move pages mainly because the titling criteria is not a set of imposed rules. The closing didn't address the arguments provided by either side and it never explained where the consensus arised. Additionally, it was never demonstrated that the official name is the WP:COMMONAME, why we should follow an WP:OFFICIALNAME, why WP:SMALLDETAILS is not applicable, why WP:NATURAL is not applicable, and since the page was moved and the redirects corrected, exactly where is the ambiguity in the title, since the Lewis tour has not improved its views caused by the alleged ambiguity. (CC)Tbhotch™ 01:49, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.– robertsky (talk) 06:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Carolina–Duke rivalry → Duke–North Carolina rivalry – The reasoning to keep the page at "Carolina-Duke" over 11 years ago was very flawed. By that logic, the Texas A&M–Texas Tech rivalry article for example, should be moved to "A&M–Tech rivalry" since those two schools are referred to that by people in their respective state. I guess we can also use the shortended "Carolina" for all of UNC's rivalry articles too or even the Palmetto State rivalry between Carolina–Clemson. I would go as far to say that "UNC" is a more commonly-used nickname than just "Carolina" (see Google Trends comparison). Wikipedia article titles are meant to be formal and informative, not just for pageviews. It is the University of NORTH Carolina, not the University of Carolina. It would not only be consistent with other college rivalry articles, but also with the standalone articles about the non-basketball rivalries between Duke and North Carolina per WP:TITLECON. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 15:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Prince Christian of Hanover → Christian von Hannover – Per WP:NCROY and the outcome of past discussions in exceedingly similar cases: 1 and 2. There are no princes of Hanover born post 1918; the correct response to the request here should have been to move the two mis-titled sibling pages, not this one. JBL (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Prince Ernst August of Hanover (born 1983) → Ernst August von Hannover (born 1983) – In Germany titles of royals and nobles were abolished in 1919 and are not recognised today by Germany which is a republic. The convention in WP:NCROY states: "Do not use hypothetical, dissolved or defunct titles, including pretenders (real or hypothetical), unless this is what the majority of reliable sources use." Therefore I do not believe Prince should be used in the title Regarding the surname - "of Hanover" is a translation of his surname "von Hannover". Names and surnames should not be translated. We don't do it for other German surnames and I don't see why we should do it here. D1551D3N7 (talk) 17:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Weaponization of antisemitism → Weaponization of antisemitism accusations – To avoid any possible misinterpretation of existing title, notwithstanding usage in sources. Selfstudier (talk) 16:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Nicaragua Canal → ? – As the opening sentence of this article puts it, "there is a long history of attempts to build a canal across Nicaragua to connect the Atlantic Ocean with the Pacific Ocean", from as early as the 1500s to the most recent and hence most notable one in the 2010s. Currently, the general article is at "History of" and the specific one about the 2010s project at "Nicaragua Canal". Each has a section summarizing the other, Nicaragua Canal § History and History of the Nicaragua Canal § HKND project (2010–present), with ((main)) hatnote crosslinks. This likely made sense when said project was active and there was reason to expect it to result in an actual canal, which would obviously have been vastly more notable than any mere plan to build one. But by the end of that decade, the project had been essentially abandoned, and I don't think it makes sense any longer. "Nicaragua Canal" has about 200 incoming article links ([31]), of which I surveyed the first 20. The result is pretty much an even split between links that should indeed go to the 2010s project, and links that should go to the general page, or in some cases ideally one of its sections about earlier specific projects. But it's more confusing to follow a link to an article that's about the wrong specific thing than to an article that's too general, especially when that specific article has an unspecific title. So a switch would clarify the situation, IMO. The most obvious choice for a new title for the specific article is "Nicaraguan Canal and Development Project", per its opening sentence - though something that includes a date, as the "HKND project (2010–present)" section title does, might be more informative, so I left that open. - 2A02:560:58C3:0:B0B9:6993:EC37:F849 (talk) 15:34, 10 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 23:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Unge Ferrari → Stig Brenner – He changed his artist name from "Unge Ferrari" to "Stig Brenner" in 2020. The Norwegian article was moved in 2022, and the German article also uses his newer artist name. 12u (talk) 21:08, 9 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 23:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 3α-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase → AKR1C4 – This article covers the type 1 isoform of the enzyme, which is encoded by the gene AKR1C4. The current title is ambiguous with the other isoforms of this enzyme, which each have an article under the name of the gene which encode them (AKR1C2, AKR1C3). This title could be made more precise by lengthening it to 3α-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1. However, to make it more concise and consistent as well, I propose moving the page to AKR1C4 (which was the title until 2012). SilverLocust💬 19:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 23:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – If a tree falls in a forest → If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? – or If a tree falls ...? It is not clear why the question that is the subject of this article is truncated after the first seven words, leaving the rest unstated and the question mark absent. No ellipsis is provided to show that something is missing. The topic is a question, and that can be seen from the opening sentence, but the article title doesn't show that. The Bruce Cockburn song title truncates it after only four words. If we think the question is just too long, let's stop at four like he did, but add the ellipsis and the question mark. — BarrelProof (talk) 02:56, 7 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 23:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Median state → Median kingdom – The term "kingdom" is more common and natural as evidenced in the article itself. Mawer10 (talk) 21:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Mawer10 (talk) 01:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 23:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Afon Tanat → River Tanat – Ngrams shows "River Tanat" is used more in English, therefore the WP:COMMONNAME. As used by CPAT[32], NRW[33], and UK Gov. A lot of search results seem to take after Wikipedia when searching the current name. Plus the current name is from Welsh, but not the apparent common Welsh name itself, which is Afon Tanad, so the current is neither the common Welsh or English name. DankJae 12:05, 2 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Natg 19 (talk) 23:01, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Dallas Green (baseball) → Dallas Green – Following the recent page move of the musician to "City and Colour", there is no need to have the disambiguation for the baseball manager. After all, the musician was named after the baseball manager! A hatnote could be used to different between the two, as well with the unrelated baseball team Dallas Green Monarchs. APM (talk) 18:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Woo Bum-kon → Woo Bum-kon incident – Per WP:BIO1E. Woo is notable for murdering a lot of people in one event, and not much else. Someone had previously tried to change this article to Uiryeong massacre, however this title is original research: all of the later Korean sources call it some variation of "Woo Bom-kon incident", "Woo Bom-kon shooting incident", etc, see (우범곤 사건, lit Woo Bum-kon incident). It is the clear common name, and we can't just make up our own titles. I believe this means it will be delisted as a vital article though, since it no longer fits the category it is listed in. Also, this article still has the problem of being overwhelmingly tilted towards 80s English news coverage instead of the boatload of later, more accurate, Korean language sourcing, but as I do not speak Korean this is a difficult issue to fix. Hopefully someone will, someday. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Maratha Empire → Maratha Confederacy – The Maratha state had been a confederation of some sort for much of its existence from at least 1721 when the Baroda State was founded and 1732 when Indore and Gwalior States were founded till 1818. The Maratha state during the Deccan wars under Shivaji and his descendents was not in the slightest an "empire", rather a quasi-state or rebel kingdom from 1674 till 1707. Besides in most non-biased scholarly sources the Maratha realm has been referred to as the "Maratha Confederacy" or "Maratha States". (Look at the infobox map itself. It says "Maratha States".) Calling it an empire is an overly biased PoV. "Maratha Confederacy" should be used per WP:NPOVTITLE. PadFoot2008 (talk) 14:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Limitarianism → Limitarianism (disambiguation) – (The last set of moves is not a requested move but a histmerge, considering one was copied-pasted to the other.) I'm seeking consensus on whether the (ethical) article is a broad concept article that should occupy the base page name; it was moved in 2017. If consensus is that (ethical) is not a broad concept article (or the primary topic) [or there is no consensus], I plan to open further discussions to see if a split (#Should be several articles above) is in order. Thanks in advanced! Rotideypoc41352 (talk·contribs) 17:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.– robertsky (talk) 13:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Karma (2024 song) → Karma's a Bitch – This page keeps getting moved. The previous rationale was "The song was originally called that in the Miley Cyrus demo, and the Brit Smith demo. It also takes away the disambiguating, so it more succinct." I’m unsure, however. The article is about the song as an entity, but that 'entity' hasn’t got a name, but it’s clear that there are two versions of the same song, and that they are not covers of each other. I don’t think this has ever happened before. Plus the proposed title is already a redirect to the page, so seems like the most logical title. This is a case of 'what came first, the chicken or the egg?' Another suggestion is Karma and Karma's a Bitch. 109.235.247.80 (talk) 01:57, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Orlando (disambiguation) → Orlando – I realise that this was discussed before in 2016, but consensus may have changed. A recent discussion at Talk:Orlando, Florida showed no consensus that this is the primary topic. I would put forward two reasons. Firstly, the sheer number of entries on this page means that we should be cautious about deciding that there is a primary topic. Secondly, some people argued that the Florida city is widely known outside the USA because it attracts a large number of tourists as the location of Disney World. However, speaking as a European who has never visited the USA, the extent to which US cities are widely known elsewhere is not necessarily a function of the number of tourists, it's not like e.g. Chicago or Los Angeles. PatGallacher (talk) 17:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Bahmani-Vijayanagara War (1375 - 1378) → Mujahid Shah's Vijayanagara campaigns – Not found any sources calling the event as "Bahmani-Vijayanagar War" of 1375-78. The article is based on the campaign of Mujahid Shah of Bahmani Sultanate after the death of his father Mohammed Shah I. Mujahid Shah's campaign against the Vijayanagara empire is notable, but no WP:RS, nor any Historians referred this to as the current title. As we can't invent names for the military conflicts such as X-Y War, proposing move. Imperial[AFCND] 09:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Bensci54 (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Djurgårdens IF Hockey → Djurgårdens IF hockey – These are dressed up like proper names, but I can't find them in sources this way. I'm open to other alternatives, e.g. Djurgårdens IF (men's hockey) and Djurgårdens IF (women's hockey), or any other disambiguated name or descriptive term, especially if found in English sources. Or we could use an untranslated name, perhaps. Dicklyon (talk) 15:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 2024 Iranian strikes in Israel → ? – The previous discussion was on moving 'Strikes' to 'strike' version, and it was speedy closed by me as there is a speedy consensus on that matter. However, what had been raised in that discussion is which proposition to be used in the article title. : The previous discussion was moving "Strikes" to "strikes", rather than to "strike", I believe? I mention this because there may be further strikes by Iran on Israel later in the year, and it's not clear whether this article would include those, or if they would get their own articles. I think clearest would be to include the full date, so this article is specifically about the missile and drone attack on the one day, which I think would be 14 April 2024 (starting in the early morning hours local time). Warren Dew (talk) 05:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Lapinjärvi (village) → Lapinjärven kirkonkylä – All of these articles about Finnish church villages begin with The X church village (also known as X; Finnish: X:n kirkonkylä, Swedish: X Kapellby), where X is the name of the municipality. However, there are no references to establish "also known as X" part and the current article names. The official Finnish name of each village is either X:n kirkonkylä or an ambiguous Kirkonkylä (which makes total sense locally). I also did not find an established translation for kirkonkylä (the literal 'church village' is not found in many sources), which is why I am suggesting to use the Finnish name for each village. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 14:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Samajbadi Morcha, Nepal → Socialist Front (Nepal) – I see no evidence that the current title is used more than Socialist Front. In fact, when I googled it pretty much every result used Samajwadi Morcha which could also be the common name. Charles Essie (talk) 17:26, 5 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Anarchyte (talk) 07:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 2024 Mozambique boat disaster → ? – Mozambique is quite a big place. Surely we can get more specific. I am not familiar with the region, however, and will let more informed editors decide on a new name. Bremps... 03:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Polish–Muscovite Wars (1605–1618) → Polish–Russian War (1605–1618) – The term "Muscovy" is not quite correct in the context of historical events. After the establishment of a unified centralized authority, the country called itself the Tsardom of Russia, not Muscovy. Such a name was relevant only during the times when Moscow existed independently, but the formation of the Tsardom of Russia happened long before the war. This can also confuse the reader since the article refers to Tsardom of Russia, which uses a different designation. Additionally, it should be clarified that this term was often used by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth during the conflict between it and the Tsardom of Russia for propaganda purposes, as the term clearly implies feudal fragmentation of the state. Nowadays, the term is also used as a derogatory term towards Russia - https://www.svoboda.org/a/ukraina-moskoviya-i-drugie-yaroslav-shimov-o-borjbe-za-vostok-evropy/32330846.html, https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/11/29/7378557/. PawelSULKUL (talk) 21:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 2024 Lake Suviana explosion → 2024 Bargi hydroelectric power station explosion – The explosion was not in Lake Suviana, but in a power plant 30m below the ground. This tree might help finding the best title for the article: * There is a parc: Suviana and Brasimone lakes regional park ** There are two lakes in the park: Lake Suviana (with a dam downstream) and Lake Brasimone ***There are five villages around Lake Suviana including Suviana [it] (namesake) and Bargi ****Bargi is located upstream of the lake. In Bargi is located the Bargi hydroelectric power station (namesake of Bargi); that uses water of Lake Suviana but àlso of other water bassins in the region (what I understand also of Lake Brasimone, but I'm not 100% sure of that) *****The explosion took place 30 metres below the ground, inside this power plant; not in the lake. 82.174.61.58 (talk) 18:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – France Olympic football team → France national under-23 football team – Per WP:COMMONNAME: sources are referring to this team as the France U23s (see FFF source.) Also, like in most cases, the "general name" of the team is the under-23s, which "takes the place" of the Olympic team at the Olympics. This is the more general name in that the team also competes in friendly matches outside of the Olympics. And again COMMONNAME. Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Bensci54 (talk) 17:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Kalolaa-kumukoa → Kalola-a-Kumukoa – Inline with the few reliable sources on the subject. *In the source (Esther T. Mookini "Keopuolani: Sacred Wife, Queen Mother, 1778-1823", p. 10) used Kalolaakumukoa not Kalolaa-kumukoa, with a break in the line on the page. The hyphen is used to connect the two parts of the name. See the pdf Kalola-a-Kumukoa in some variation is used in: Kamakau's Ruling Chiefs of Hawaii, p. 476; Edith Kawelohea McKinzie's Hawaiian Genealogies: Extracted from Hawaiian Language Newspapers, Vol. 2, p. 13, Kapiikauinamoku's (Sammy Amalu) Story of Maui Royalty [The story of Maui royalty — Ulukau books link], and this newspaper article by Robert W. Wilcox [Robert Wilcox sounds off, 1898. | nupepa (nupepa-hawaii.com) link]. KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:51, 2 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Bensci54 (talk) 16:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Francis, Duke of Guise → François, Duke of Guise – Requesting move of these articles per WP:COMMONNAME. I will begin my argument with ngrams, even though I find them largely overcrowded by noise. Please see [34][35][36][37] Moving beyond ngrams, my argument revolves around the English literature that focuses on the family, the era of the Italian Wars, and the era French Wars of Religion, both areas of which they played a central role in and are therefore not an incidental mention in. Stuart Carroll (2011) Martyr's and Murderers: The Guise Family and the Making of Europe, is the most recent English language biography of the family - it refers to the second duke of Guise as François, his son the third duke as Henri and the fifth duke of Guise as Henri II (also the seventh duke of Guise as François-Joseph though that Wikipedia article is already at François-Joseph, so does not require changing.) The other recent English book which discusses them in the title is Mark Konnert's (2006) Local Politics in the French Wars of Religion: The Towns of Champagne, the duc de Guise and the Catholic League (1560-1595) - it refers to François, and Henri. I will now briefly survey English academics who have written on this area in the last couple of decades, and their various positions on the names. Gould (2006) = François; Roelker (1968) = François, Henri; Knecht (2014) = François, Henri; Diefendorf (1991) = François, Henri; Roberts (2013) = François, Henri; Sutherland (1962) = François, Henri; Tullchin (2012) = François, Henri; Roelker (1996) = François, Henri; Baumgartner (1986) = Henri; Harding (1978) = François, Henri; Heller (2003) = Henri; Potter (1997) = François, Henri; Carroll (2005) = François, Henri; Bernstein (2004) = Henri; Konnert (1997) = François, Henri; Benedict (2003) = François, Henri; Salmon (1979) = François, Henri; Shaw (2019) [only English language survey of the Italian Wars] = François; Pitts (2012) = François, Henri; Neuschel (1989) = François; Kingdon (1967) = François, Henri; Greengrass (1988) = François; Conner (2000) = François, Spangler (2016) = Henri Tingle (2006) is a little unusual, refers to François, and Henry; likewise Shimizu (1970) refers to Francis, and Henri Holt (2002) = Francis, Henry, he is the only French Wars of Religion era academic I am aware of who throughout all his works consistently calls them this way. Wood (2002) never refers to either duke by their first name. sovietblobfish (talk) 11:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 19:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.asilvering (talk) 00:28, 30 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:21, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Joint Light Tactical Vehicle → Joint Light Tactical Vehicle competition – There are basically two extremely similar articles about the JLTV. Actually three. Joint Light Tactical Vehicle resembles an article about the development program, while Oshkosh L-ATV is about the JLTV selected for production. There is enough content for two articles, but I would guess that most people searching for "JLTV" would expect to find an article about the production vehicle than the competition that produced it. Background: "L-ATV" was the marketing name for the truck originally designed by Oshkosh for the JLTV program, which Oshkosh won in 2015. Presumably Oshkosh did not wish to tie the vehicle's success to the JLTV program, and so branded it as Each branch of the U.S. military calls it the "JLTV". Oshkosh usually refers to the L-ATV as the JLTV, although very occasionally Oshkosh will market a variant of the JLTV as an L-ATV on their own initiative. Here is a press release where Oshkosh announces the sale of "JLTVs", not "L-ATVs", to European countries. AM General will take over production of the JLTV from Oshkosh at the end of the year. They will be calling their version the JLTV A2. If this move is carried out there should be a section about the competition with a pointer to Joint Light Tactical Vehicle competition. Schierbecker (talk) 02:44, 28 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Bensci54 (talk) 16:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Polish–Ukrainian ethnic conflict → Polish–Ukrainian relations (1939–1947) – The article's author was unable to demonstrate the source basis for the existence of a Polish-Ukrainian ethnic conflict in 1942-47; the very fact that he places the Polish anti-communist and pro-independence Freedom and Independence Association on the Ukrainian side demonstrates his poor grasp of the subject, but also, and above all, the inability to narrate the entire history solely through the optics of "ethnic conflict." For indeed, this is a misleading take. First, because it is difficult to define the actors. The Polish side is not homogeneous: there are many organizations, and the three main currents (the Home Army, the Nationalists and the Communists) had different attitudes toward the Ukrainian cause and did not pursue a uniform policy. Likewise, on the Ukrainian side, there is the OUN-M, OUN-B (and UPA), UCK collaborators, Bulbovets, Ukrainian Soviet partisans, Ukrainian SSR authorities, etc. Second, despite generally hostile relations, there were also periods of peace, attempts at agreement, and actual alliances. There is an entire book by Grzegorz Motyka and Rafał Wnuk on this subject: "Pany and rezuny. Cooperation of the AK-WiN and the UPA 1945-1947". Many Ukrainians served in the Polish army in 1939 and in the Polish armed forces in the west. Pavlo Shandruk cooperated with the Polish government in exile etc. These are things largely not currently described on Wikipedia. In the current situation, I see two choices: # due to the fact that the article is a translation from the Polish Wiki of the article under the title " Polish-Ukrainian partisan fighting", we can move it under this title and change the scope to describe the skirmishes between the two partisan movement. # or, as I suggest, move it under the title I proposed and describe the whole of Polish-Ukrainian relations during the war. I believe that such an article would be valuable and would be a " container" tying together all the topics currently described in isolation (the massacres of Poles in Volhynia, the Hrubieszów revolution, the WiN-UPA alliance, etc.). Marcelus (talk) 20:30, 14 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.– robertsky (talk) 02:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 19:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Genital modification and mutilation → Genital modification – Fails WP: CRITERIA. 1.) It lacks precision, as it encompasses related but dissimilar topics, often being misinterpreted by users to mean that all genital modifications listed on the page are mutilations. 2.) It fails the criteria of concision. As all genital mutilations are forms of genital modifications, genital modification would suffice. (e.g. It is like if a page was termed "List of dogs and bulldogs" instead of "List of dogs") 3.) It fails the criteria of neutrality, as it implies to readers (problematically) that gender-affirming surgery, labiaplasty, circumcision, and pearling are mutilation. It also associates "modification" with exclusively negative changes. To make it meet WP: NPOV, you'd have to add "enhancement" or another positive term, a proposal that would further fail the criteria of concision. 4.) The title goes against article precedents surrounding body modification articles. All of which leave out titles that give positive or negative personal judgements. KlayCax (talk) 03:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.estar8806 (talk) ★ 13:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do not use hypothetical, dissolved or defunct titles, including pretenders (real or hypothetical), unless this is what the majority of reliable sources use.
German monarchy was abolished in 1919. The "zu" is in the name instead of "of" as names should not be translated. Move request on similar pages for reference. D1551D3N7 (talk) 11:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.BD2412T 17:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Frederik IX of Denmark → Frederik IX – He's the only monarch with this exact name, so we should move per WP:PRECISE, and the move will make the article title consistent with his daughter and now his grandson, whose name is spelled without the C. Векочел (talk) 01:56, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply] Note: A mistake on my part in saying Frederik IX was the only monarch with this name. He is the only king with this exact name.Векочел (talk) 09:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.FOARP (talk) 14:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]