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Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.

Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.

Before listing a redirect for discussion[edit]

Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:

The guiding principles of RfD[edit]

When should we delete a redirect?[edit]

The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:

  • a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
  • if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").

Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.

Reasons for deleting[edit]

You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):

  1. The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Wikipedia.
  2. The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
  3. The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 and G3 may apply.) See also § Neutrality of redirects.
  4. The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
  5. The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
  6. It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, are an exception to this rule. (Note also the existence of namespace aliases such as WP:. Speedy deletion criterion R2 may apply if the target namespace is something other than Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help:, or Portal:.)
  7. If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8. You should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first and that it has not become broken through vandalism.
  8. If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.)
  9. If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion, or alternatively (with the suppressredirect user right; available to page movers and admins), perform a round-robin move. If not, take the article to Requested moves.
  10. If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.

Reasons for not deleting[edit]

However, avoid deleting such redirects if:

  1. They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Wikipedia:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
  2. They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in the article texts because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the ((R from misspelling)) template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
  3. They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but do not know what that refers to will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
  4. Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Wikipedia:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
  5. Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the wikishark or pageviews tool on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
  6. The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.

Neutrality of redirects[edit]

Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names, therefore perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with ((R from non-neutral name)).

Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:

  1. Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. ClimategateClimatic Research Unit email controversy).
  2. Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
  3. The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Wikipedia article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.

The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.

Closing notes[edit]

Details at Administrator instructions for RfD

Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).

How to list a redirect for discussion[edit]

Tag the redirect(s).

  Enter ((subst:rfd|content= at the very beginning of the redirect page you are listing for discussion and enter )) at the very end of the page.

  • Please do not mark the edit as minor (m).
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase:
    Nominated for RfD: see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]].
  • Save the page ("Publish changes").
  • If you are unable to edit the redirect page because of protection, this step can be omitted, and after step 2 is completed, a request to add the RFD template can be put on the redirect's talk page.
  • If the redirect you are nominating is in template namespace, consider adding |showontransclusion=1 to the RfD tag so that people using the template redirect are aware of the nomination.
  • If you are nominating multiple redirects as a group, repeat all the above steps for each redirect being nominated.
List the entry on RfD.

 Click here to edit the section of RfD for today's entries.

  • Enter this text below the date heading:
((subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName|target=TargetArticle|text=The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action.)) ~~~~
  • For this template:
    • Put the redirect's name in place of RedirectName, put the target article's name in place of TargetArticle, and include a reason after text=.
    • Note that, for this step, the "target article" is the current target of the redirect (if you have a suggestion for a better target, include this in the text that you insert after text=).
  • Please use an edit summary such as:
    Nominating [[RedirectName]]
    (replacing RedirectName with the name of the redirect you are nominating).
  • To list multiple related redirects for discussion, use the following syntax. Repeat line 2 for N number of redirects:
((subst:Rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectNameN|target=TargetArticleN|text=The actions you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for those actions.)) ~~~~
  • If the redirect has had previous RfDs, you can add ((Oldrfdlist|previous RfD without brackets|result of previous RfD)) directly after the rfd2 template.
  • If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a ((subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>)) template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
Notify users.

  It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate.

To find the main contributors, look in the page history of the respective redirect(s). For convenience, the template

((subst:Rfd notice|RedirectName)) ~~~~

may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as:
Notice of redirect discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]]

Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages.

Current list[edit]

July 12

July 11

Gusty Garden Galaxy

Soundtrack not mentioned in the target. Mia Mahey (talk) 23:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

North West Leicestershire by-election, 2010

Never happened. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sonic Wiild Fire

either an implausible misspelling or an implausible pun. i don't know which outcome is worse, but the term doesn't seem to see much (if any) use in the context of sonic, with or without a space cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mystic Ruins

either vague, or more closely associated with sonic adventure cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biographies of living persons

This should be a CNR to WP:BLP. All of the 304 links to this redirect are in reference to the Wikipedia policy, rather than the Biography article. It seems unlikely that anyone searching for this would be looking for the encyclopedic article, especially considering the term is never mentioned. It was retarted to Biography from a CNR in 2009. C F A 💬 18:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


that's 3 separate spelling mistakes cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


that's the "doot" meme. doesn't seem like a plausible misspelling of "skeletal" otherwise, as e is just close enough to t where it'd be hard to forget to type one letter cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One PIece

that's an uppercase i cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Implausible misspelling. Our search function automatically handles different capitalizations. I tend to agree that effort of listing redirects with minor errors can be used elsewhere, but we might as well delete them as they are listed to reduce maintance work for useless redirects. Ca talk to me! 05:47, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


'm (or 'm block) is a glitch pokémon that shares missingno's "sprite", index number, and some functions, but is otherwise a different glitch. it's not mentioned in the article aside from an offhanded mention in the translation for source 1 cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. AFAIK we don't discuss the 'M glitch in any other capacity, the most common method of finding MissingNo will also turn up 'M, and it doesn't just copy SOME functions, but PRACTICALLY ALL functions. For our intents and purposes, 'M and MissingNo. are the same thing and should be treated accordingly by redirects. Leave further details to Glitch City Labs and Bulbapedia. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 23:33, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Lunamann.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon incident

extremely vague. requires that "pokémon" and "incident" be defined in a way that somehow narrows it down to only this particular episode of the anime generation that also featured jynx and hypno, while excluding every other controversy the franchise has seen cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

should mention that i would favor retargeting it to an article or section of an article detailing most controversies, no such thing exists (yet). the closest i found was pokémon episodes removed from rotation, but even then, that's only for the anime cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


vague. i can name at least one other thing with more than 37 episodes cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heartless Angel

a recurring attack for sephiroth in a lot of his appearances since his debut... but also for kefka. if both appear in a playable or boss form in any given game, heartless angel tends to go to whoever pops up first, which is usually kefka. if you want to be technical, sephiroth gets it more often overall because he gets more appearances, but results seem to associate it equally with both (give or take sephiroth being mentioned more often overall). even then, heartless angel isn't mentioned in either of their articles. if not deleted, i don't know if it should be kept there or retargeted to kefka, to final fantasy#gameplay, or to recurring elements in the final fantasy series#gameplay, because it'd be hard to cram an unsourced mention (or worse, a mention with a guide as the source) into those otherwise good or featured articles cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


rlang seems to apply. i haven't found anything about the koreas in any banana article cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There have been reports of bananas growing in Seoul due to climate change, but bananas are not closely affined to Korea. Delete per nom. Ca talk to me! 16:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


'Ramshackle' (whatever that is) isn't mentioned anywhere in the target article. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 11:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Australia national soccer team

Procedural nomination; I'm not leaving an opinion. This redirect was converted to a disambiguation page by Thrakkx, back to a redirect by Macosal, back again by Joeykai, and then back to a redirect by The Banner earlier today. Keep or disambiguate? TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Unfortunately, the men's team is the primary topic (I would love to see the women's team with the same status, but alas). Beside that, it solved a lot of links to disambiguation pages. The Banner talk 09:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6 and WP:CSD#G7

Naked Rugby League 2007-08

Implausible redirect. Zinnober9 (talk) 00:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 10

Samantha Payne (director)

Samantha Payne is not the director of Mean Girls. The director is Samantha Jayne. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Acronym meaning "World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders". Nothing links here. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Protection policy/Padloacks

Implausible redirect, given that Padloack doesn't even exist in main space. (talk) 19:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Implausible misspelling. Ca talk to me! 14:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right-wing media

Not sure if this is appropriate, as "bias" implies something untoward (as with the rest of the article). Plenty of news outlets that are openly left or right-wing but there is nothing wrong about it. GnocchiFan (talk) 18:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, that redirect violates WP:NPOV for me, delete. Jonteemil (talk) 19:01, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Håndboldligaen redirects

I don't think these are good redirects. Redirects exist to lead people to the right place, not to avoid redlinks. When someone bothers writing these pages, then they can become bluelinks, but not until then. Also, the risk for it staying unwritten is higher when it is a bluelink than if it were a redlink. Jonteemil (talk) 18:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


i think it should be retargeted, but should it be to semi-trailer truck, or to big rig (disambiguation)? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

big rigs redirects with no space

missingspace, but it sounds like something the game itself would do cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Active worlds in the Solar System

not the biggest volcano nerd out there, so sorry in advance for any uninformed claims, but from reading the target and other related articles, there seem to be no other celestial bodies that meet the criteria of being a "world", currently having volcanic activity, and being in the solar system, though mercury is a strong "maybe". on another note, i'm not entirely sure "active world" is a term used to refer to volcanic activity, and the creator of the redirect (who seems to have made it as an essay) seemed to have also been referring to geysers, and counting moons as "worlds". for results. wikipedia gave me an mmo (shoutouts to hitomi fujiko), google gave me assorted apps and brands, and wiktionary gave me nothing. unless there's a detail i'm missing or this is a scientific term that refers to celestial bodies with volcanic activity, i'll vote for deletion cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

on this note, i should mention "volcanically active worlds", a redirect that specifies the type of activity it refers to and does not specify the location. jury's still out on the definition of world though, but it's a step in the right direction cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a better redirect at this time as is this not a redirect with potential.?
Jury is out on definition of volcano as noted in the article itself and presumably meaning of world. Planet and moon are more accurate terms. Many "worlds" are active in some way as they are above absolute zero and may have internal or external entropy sources that disturb their surface however that is defined. Someone could get a good article out of this so my vote is to retain in hope someone will do the job, unless there is a better redirect. ChaseKiwi (talk) 17:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
drifting into personal opinion territory by now, but wouldn't returning to red be better for that? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think "Active worlds" is too ambiguous to justify keeping "Active worlds in the Solar System" as a redirect to Volcano#Volcanoes on other celestial bodies. I also have not found any other suitable redirect targets because the problem is the lack of meaning in the redirect's title rather than a problem with any targets of the redirect. I recommend delete. GeoWriter (talk) 11:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Super Smash Bros. 6

Not mentioned in the target. No information about a video game named Super Smash Bros. 6 exists in the target article or in Super Smash Bros. Mia Mahey (talk) 22:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete as wrong. ultimate is the 5st installment cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 22:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cogsan see below. Some call it the sixth. Not arguing that's correct, but it's plausible at least. Sergecross73 msg me 23:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that's if you ignore the fact that smash for 3ds and that other console are both commonly referred to as "sm4sh", and clumped together as two different flavors of the same installment by pretty much everyone less pedantic than me. ironically, nintendo considers them to be separate, but even the article reduces that to note c, accompanied by "but who cares about those guys, most sources say they're both smash 4" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None of that changes that its a plausible search term, with sourcing and notes to clear up confusion. Again, I'm not saying its the sixth title. I'm not arguing anyone should think that. I'm saying its a plausible redirect because some people think that, and some sources outline it. Sergecross73 msg me 13:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 13:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Porch monkey

No longer mentioned at target. The second redirect is fully protected, so I cannot tag it. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 02:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is mentioned at List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity, although that article does seem like a WP:CFORK to me. 162 etc. (talk) 02:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity and List of ethnic slurs have a CFORK problem; the only difference scope-wise is sorting order, with the original target being alphabetically sorted by the slurs and the other list being sorted by target ethnicity. This issue should probably be resolved (and the two pages possibly re-merged) before we figure out where this should target. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 04:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 13:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

redirects to unmanned combat aerial vehicle

These need retargetting, as these are not specific to UCAV. Military drones can be unarmed, such as the Global Hawk, and most target drones (Q-planes) like the QF-4 (retired fighter converted to target drone). Armed drones are not restricted to UCAVs, such as sea drones operated by Ukraine that have sunk many Russian ships. On the Ukrainian battlefield, armed and unarmed land drones (unmanned ground vehicle -- UGV) also are being used, as are armed and unarmed aerial drones (UAV - unmanned aerial vehicle). Both the US and China have demonstrated drone tanks and robot dogs with machine guns. Police have tracked ground drones armed with shotguns, so not just militaries have armed drones. UXOD and landmine clearing also use military ground drones.

-- (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 13:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Digimon World Re:Digitize

that's a completely different type of colon. not sure who would write the title in english, switch to a japanese keyboard setting to add that specific colon and nothing else, and then back to a latin one to write the rest cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as implausible mixed-script redirect. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Digimon world:re:digitize

missing a space as well, but this one might make a little sense if you're thinking of emails. still voting for deletion, but will give it the benefit of the doubt cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

malformed digimon redirects

missingspace too cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lucas(Mother 3)

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy deleted

Observatorio tecnológico

Delete as an unlikely redirect from a foreign language. ArcticSeeress (talk) 09:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete. don't know why there's a redirect in portuguese if the language doesn't even exist. that aside, the article isn't necessarily about "technological" observatories (whatever that's supposed to mean) cogsan (me incomodar) (me perseguir) 12:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
note: i was wrong. this was an ad in spanish. thought there was something wrong with the missing accent in "observatório". vote still stands cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 21:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Standard WP:FORRED case. Ca talk to me! 07:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sdn Bhd

No mention in article Isla🏳️‍⚧ 00:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 12:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget Sdn Bhd refers to a malaysian public company. Sendririnan Berhad is not a person but a longer version. I agree with the IP though, the current article is very UK-specific. 48JCL 12:40, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Participants agree that retargeting would be the best outcome, but it is currently unclear where these two redirects should target.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Another relist because of the latest comments that suggest a new direction. Also notified of this discussion at the talk pages of the suggested targets and the redirect creator.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Puddle thinking

Not mentioned anymore at the target page. Puddle thinking was merged to Fine-tuned universe in 2010 (diff), and the relevant content was removed in 2020 (diff). Tea2min (talk) 09:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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July 9

World War 5

Not a helpful search term, no mention at target, and not likely to be a typo for somebody searching for World War III. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

the best argument i can think of is 5 being right over 2 in most pads. still not a typo you'd make without noticing. delete as implausible cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep:Delete: The primary reason for keeping these redirects in general would be the quote about World War V mentioned in the discussion linked to later in this comment. However, that quote seems to have since been removed from the article about World War III. Original: I created this redirect because World War V and Fifth World War already existed. If you were to propose deleting all of these redirects, then I would reconsider, but I think that keeping those while deleting World War 5 would be quite inconsistent. For reference, a similar discussion took place around "World War VI": Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 October 26#World War VI. –Gluonz talk contribs 19:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC); edited 14:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I bundled in other redirects you've found. I don't think josh was suggesting that we only delete World War 5, but just haven't found the other similar redirects. Ca talk to me! 13:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
and delete them too, for the same reason cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ca: I have also found 5th World War (which currently redirects to World war#Potential Third World War) and Ww5 (which currently redirects to World war#Subsequent world wars). –Gluonz talk contribs 21:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Ca talk to me! 11:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No mention of WW5 in the article, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball Ca talk to me! 13:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Scared Silly

normally a little vague, but as a name, it seems more primarily associated with an open season movie cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The Snuffleupagus redirect already exists, but Mr. Snuffleupagas doesn't, and creating it just to justify the Snuffleupagas redirect may run the risk of reinforcing this particular misspelling. If a reader looking to read about Snuffy types "snuffleu" into the search bar, Snuffleupagus should be what appears in the resulting list, not the redundant Snuffleupagas. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 22:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chhota Bheem 2

All redirects were created on the same day by the same creator as a chronological search aid for theatrical films in order of release for the series. Apart from animated films, Chhota Bheem also has a live action film and is a television series. Lack of "film" in the redirect titles was a factor in the deletion of Chhota Bheem 1 and Chhota Bheem 5 at the recently closed RfD WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 25#Chhota Bheem 1. Chhota Bheem 3 redirects back to the parent article that has no listed chronology. I would recommend deletion consistent with the already deleted ones. Jay 💬 22:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned in the linked RfD, the lack of 'film' in the title wasn't my issue with Chhota Bheem 1 and Chhota Bheem 5-- the issue I had was that the redirect target was incorrect, pointing to Chhota Bheem and the Curse of Damyaan (2012 film) instead of the actual first and fifth films: Chhota Bheem Aur Krishna and Chhota Bheem: Journey to Petra. (You may notice that both of those redirect to the Chhota Bheem page itself-- that's because we don't have information on those films.)
By that logic:
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The Halberd

not entirely sure what makes this halberd that's only mentioned in passing in the target "the", as opposed to the weapon cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I don't find this vague-- searching for The Halberd on Google turns up two classes results-- the weapon and its existence both irl and in various video games like Elden Ring or Dark Souls (it may be capitalized in such links but it's literally just *a* halberd in those instances), and this fictional battleship and its appearances in the Kirby series and the Super Smash Bros series. (That doesn't count as two separate ships-- the Smash one is intended to *be* the Kirby one.) WP:DIFFCAPS is enough to establish that someone searching for "The Halberd" is probably not wanting to go to halberd the weapon, if the leading The wasn't a tip-off already. As for target, anyone looking for information on the Kirby Halberd is well-served by this redirect, which takes you to information on the ship's owner and main resident, and has information on the battleship itself. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


First E is Latin, second is Greek. Delete per WP:MIXEDSCRIPT or (my preference) move to Ε.Π.Ε.Κ. without leaving a redirect. Nickps (talk) 21:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move per nom Implausible. No one is going to change their keyboard language to type the second E. Ca talk to me! 06:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


this one, i don't understand. ichtyol seems to be either a type of medicine (or chemical?), a misspelling(?) of "ichthyol", which seems to be a fossil fish oil, or a brand of shampoo. none of those seem to be related to shiitake mushrooms. is there something i'm missing? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shiitake mashrooms

implausible misspelling of "mushroom"? at the very best, i think someone could potentially mishear the "u" depending on the speaker's accent, but that doesn't seem very likely, and u and a are almost on opposite sides of the keyboard cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Strengthening my !vote above per your reference that this misspelling is attested in reliable sources related to the subject. Fieari (talk) 04:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wicked Ways Garbage song

Was missing parentheses. Seems unnecessary now that it has been moved to the correct Wicked Ways (Garbage song). Jameboy (talk) 12:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia

It is not clear why this redirects here. "Port Royal" itself is ambiguous, and there's no mention of "Port Royal" in the article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saint John Rivers

Delete because it's nonsense, as pointed out by in this summary] by User:Masato.harada Enyavar (talk) 18:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The name of the Jane Eyre character is St John Rivers. Even if the redirect page's name were corrected, there is no reason for its existence compared with dozens of other characters of equal importance in the novel. Masato.harada (talk) 18:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
admittedly uninformed, but i'd say weak keep as a plausible-ish spelling, as is the case with "john saint john" redirecting to the "proper" name. on another note, is there some weird technical reason the nomination was improperly formatted? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Cogsan. I don't see how this is implausible at all, especially if one heard it aurally. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that I came across it when searching for the various Saint John Rivers, and that disambiguation page already lists the character but also provides links to the more likely meanings. If we keep it, change the target to the disamb page. (And if you want properly formatted nominations, I suggest streamlining this byzantine nomination procedure.) --Enyavar (talk) 05:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Re "if heard aurally": the name St John is pronounced Sinjen, not Saint John, so there should be no confusion. Masato.harada (talk) 08:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See, the problem is that is assuming the reader would know that's the correct pronunciation. I personally would assume it would be "Saint John" being from the U.S. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Saint John River per Enyavar. The character is listed there, and it's a plausible search term. Tevildo (talk) 17:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I originally created the redirect as it was a quiz bowl answer in Wikipedia:Stanford Archive answers. Cheers, Jack (talk) 11:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Super Nintend

implausible misspelling, search function will complete it anywa cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: From my own notes in the redirect, a pirated game cartridge had used that misspelling (I don't remember which one) WhisperToMe (talk) 20:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:RDEL #8. Extremely obscure from my searches, only finding apparent typos. Ca talk to me! 15:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While I see some typos as plausible I don’t see missing the O in Nintendo as likely it’s not something like a silent letter or unusable combination of letters where a typo would be more expected. Also I don’t believe the existence of a pirate cart that hasn’t appeared to be covered anywhere on Wikipedia for the 12 year period that this redirect existed as compelling whatsoever. Finally, while o may be wrong, I see keeping this because we may at a later date cover the pirate cart to be a WP:CRYSTAL issue-- (talk) 16:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney(Episodes)

malformed cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your Mileage May Vary

used in other places as well, though the title case might imply something more specific. retarget to your mileage may vary (which is itself a soft redirect to wiktionary), or leave as is? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brown hat

Not mentioned at current redirect article. GnocchiFan (talk) 15:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The two Johns

what makes those two specific johns "the", as opposed to john and john from john and john, or any other combination of two johns? doesn't seem related to "gigantic (a tale of two johns)", which is about those two specific johns, but doesn't necessarily make those of all johns "the" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This Might Be A Wiki

really funny, but only linked at the end of the article (and cited 4 times, which i will provide no input on), and not mentioned otherwise cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for now. As it stands, this is a correctly targeted redirect-- while it's a tiny amount of information, it IS still SOME information that we have regarding the redirect title. However, and this is such a big however that I'm going to put it in bold, I don't believe this piece of information should stay on the article. While tmbw.net boasts that the official They Might Be Giants site links to them (in multiple places), the current site... doesn't. And not only are there no citations for the inclusion of TMBW on the Wikipedia page, I also don't believe they're a reliable source; it's in the same ballpark as WP:FANDOM-- heck, TMBW's own About page mentions that Wikia (which later became Fandom) offered to host the wiki on their servers, and they declined because they... wanted more control than Wikia offered?
That said, at the end of the day, this is a discussion about the redirect, not the information being redirected to. And as it stands, the information is there-- so if someone wants to find it, this is where it is. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


unlikely misspelling of "pingas"? if it's not deleted, i'll suggest retargeting to youtube poop, while i make a not as misspelled redirect to it cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh wait, "pingas" is already a redirect to a dab. leave that one as is (give or take a mention of it in the dab), or retarget it to ytp? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Line 4 (Singapore MRT)

Proposing to Delete. Reiterating my rationale at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 15#Line 1 (Singapore MRT). These lines have never been referred to as Line 4, Line 5, etc, but rather directly by their names (Circle MRT line, Downtown MRT line etc). A quick Google search brings up the line numbers in order of their opening (For example, when I search for "Line 5 Singapore MRT", Google brings up Downtown MRT line, which was the fifth line to open in SG, as the first result). Given this, I find it to be an inaccurate search term at best, and if I were to go further, an invalid search term. S5A-0043Talk 07:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Notorious Software Patents

Unused (no pageviews in 90 days) redirect of unlikely editorialization and capitalizaiton. Nat Gertler (talk) 04:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The list does say some patents have "achieved notoriety in other ways", but not all patents listed are "notorious" (if we are editorializing here), and the list isn't about patent controversies anyways. Misleadings and unlikely search term. Ca talk to me! 06:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not WP:NPOV. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 13:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FYI redirects do not need to be neutral per WP:RNEUTRAL. Ca talk to me! 14:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Acoustic punk

I disambiguated acoustic punk with links to acoustic music, folk punk, antifolk, and gypsy punk, however, it was restored to its original redirect, and there appears to be some confusion on the acoustic punk talk page, so am listing it here to get consensus on whether the redirect or disambiguation page is more appropriate. I feel like the disambiguation page would work better because folk music is acoustic, and folk punk, antifolk, and gypsy punk can be performed acousticly sans electric amplification. Moline1 (talk) 03:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I explained on the talk page, this could perhaps be a broad concept article, but not a disambiguation page at present. None of these articles are ambiguously titled with the term "acoustic punk" and at present, none of them even so much as mention the term. If the articles are updated to provide some indication as to why they are suitable for inclusion on a dab for "acoustic punk", that could work as well, but otherwise a broad concept article is needed to provide context for these unambiguously titled articles. olderwiser 09:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moscow City

Are we sure that Moscow International Business Center is the primary topic for "Moscow City" (not hyphenated, but capitalised), as opposed to Moscow? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Given the Moscow International Business Center is known as Moscow-City, I'd say WP:DIFFCAPS is enough to keep this one. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 01:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mexican Avocado Dispute

there isn't anything in the article about a dispute and the section to which this links no longer exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The North Caucasus

Unnecessary redirect, recently created. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Paper Bowser

no game under that title yet (give them time), wouldn't the list of paper mario characters be a better target? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh wait
there's no section specifically for bowser there, and his article doesn't mention him in paper mario beyond "he was there". forget retargeting, i vote to delete as unhelpful cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Keeping under the idea that they might make a game with that title is pointless WP:CRYSTAL-gazing, and unfounded to boot. As it stands now, we have no information at all regarding Bowser's inclusion in the Paper Mario series, nor any other place where something might be known as 'Paper Bowser'. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 01:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

City of Auckland

The City of Auckland is a distinct entity from Auckland City. It is not discussed in proper detail in the Auckland article nor the Auckland City article. I do believe it has the merits to meet notability on it's own: e.g. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/46925/46925-h/46925-h.htm Deletion would be the best option as it doesn't mislead readers into a different entity and might encourage someone to create an article on it. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep All that's needed is to tag it with Template:R with possibilities. I've done so. Schwede66 08:39, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't believe it's a good redirect. Auckland City is completely different to the City of Auckland. It'd be like having New York County redirect to New York City. It is only a partial continuation in area and most of Auckland City's area is from the County of Eden. The term being redirected serves to confuse the reader into thinking City of Auckland (note the important capitalisation as a proper noun) is just another name for Auckland or Auckland City. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:14, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Write content seems to be the obvious answer here. It needn't be more than a short paragraph detailing the status, extent, etc. on whichever of Auckland or Auckland City is the broader. This redirect can then be targetted there. Thryduulf (talk) 09:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree there should be content but in the absence of it I do not believe the current redirect is appropriate as it is misleading. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mario Paint Wii

no confirmed relation with the wii. don't quote me on this part since i'm unfortunately not the biggest mariopainthead out there, but nothing i found suggests that it or a related game was ever even released on the wii cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:34, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


This title is pointless because "Elpincha" is only the name of the user who wrote the original content under this redirect (see history), and "2D" is short for "two demons". The unsourced 2005 content has a SNOW chance of being merged into the main article, and based on the edit summary of "counterweight to the current article" we can infer that it was probably an attempt at creating a fork. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 18:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete as fake pseudo namespace cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sportacus 9

there are theories that robbie rotten was the previous sportacus and wore the number 9, though they have little to no evidence that could be used here. retarget to his article, keep as is, or delete as fancruft? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep redirect to sportacus. Robbie rotten and number 9 (sportacus 9) are not the same person. Robbie and number 9 where butting heads (see https://web.archive.org/web/20040108161211/http://www.lazytown.com/pages/about/concept/theoriginsstory.html ). Robbie later became Robbie rotten (see https://web.archive.org/web/20031225235205/http://www.lazytown.com/pages/about/concept/robbierotten.html). Number 9 (sportacus 9) has much more similarities with sportacus 10 (the current sportacus) than Robbie, so that redirect makes sense for now. Snævar (talk) 14:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


unlikely misspelling of "sportscandy"? i'm pretty sure most people would notice the typo and correct it around the n. unless it's meant to be a pun on "sportacus", in which case retarget to sportacus and then delete cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The LazyTown fandom wiki actually states that the character Ziggy uses "Sportacandy" as an alter ego-- something attested to in our article from all the way back before the 2007 creation of this redirect, all the way to September 2014-- when it was removed because Sportacandy was listed as its own character, when in reality, it's... just Ziggy. It's plausible to edit the Ziggy section to include a reference to Sportacandy, although I'll note that there's a considerable dearth of citations even in the current version of the section, much less the original Sportacandy section.
However, more pressing is that there's really no other place this redirect COULD go. Even throwing out the Sportacandy alter ego of Ziggy, the redirect is still a simple portmanteau of "Sportacus", a character from this show, and "Sports Candy", a name given to fruits and vegetables by Sportacus in the show (and mentioned repeatedly in the article)-- someone could easily misremember "Sports Candy" as "Sportacandy" for this reason. This, combined *with* the fact that said portmanteau can't properly be filed under WP:NEO because it is a name used in the show, means we should keep. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 02:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
okay yeah fair enough i forgot about that part, weak keep cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Change redirect to LazyTown#Ziggy. Like lunamann wrote, Sportacandy is just the alter ego of Ziggy. I also think the removed sportacandy text from LazyTown should be re-added to Ziggy. That the same person is behind both characters does justify presenting it differently, but not removing it.--Snævar (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tone (color)

These two redirects should point to the same article. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 04:40, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Target both to Tint, shade and tone. The Lightness article has four mentions of the word Tone according to ctrl-f: the first is a link to Tint, shade and tone that pretty much rephrases that article's title ("Tints, shades, and tones"), the second is a See Also link that also goes to Tint, shade and tone, the third is a third link to Tint, shade and tone, this time as part of the Color Topics template, and the fourth is a link to Pantone that's also in the Color Topics template. From this we can easily deduce that the information someone looking for when they search Tone (color) is *not* on the Lightness page itself, and is instead on the Tint, Shade and Tone page. Retarget as appropriate. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bawang putih

its indonesian and malay name. while they seem sort of associated enough, as malaysia and around half of indonesia are in southeast asia, the names and those two countries aren't mentioned in the target at all cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


results gave me unrelated plants, funny-looking rocks with no relation to each other, and... really, everything besides garlic. seems to be a romanization of one of two ancient greek names for garlic, but i only found that by digging around wiktionary cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly retarget to Allium as an ((A2r)) from Scorodon? It looks like a plausible misspelling but then the question becomes, is "Scorodon" a valid redirect in the first place? Nickps (talk) 17:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i'd say leave scorodon as is, but then delete skorodon as "clearly you know some greek if you're looking for this, so there's no excuse to misspell it" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that's right. According to romanisation of Greek, skorodon is a valid romanisation under the system the Library of Congress uses. Nickps (talk) 13:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Microsoft® Windows® Operating System® Redirects With Pointless Legalese© Unicode® Characters™

apparently previously subject to an RFD™ that ended in a TrainWreck©, consensus currently seems more inclined to delete redirects with copyright or trademark symbols CogSan© (Forum) (Our Portfolio) 16:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

forgot to link the rfd, oops. here it is. should someone try nominating all the remaining redirects again? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. While that RfD did mention the possibility of using ® as a disambiguator (separating, say, a search for Apple the fruit from a search for Apple Inc.), that's not applicable here-- the word Microsoft (and the words Operating System) are already disambiguator words, but even with the first one that has neither, Windows already goes to Microsoft Windows instead of Window. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Windows®, delete the rest. I agree that the lower two lack sufficient disambiguating strength to be kept, and they are unlikely search terms. However, there are reasonable things one could search for with the search term "Windows", and it wouldn't be unreasonable to have someone who knows their unicode shortcuts attempt to search Windows® to find the product. As such, I think this one ought be split. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed They might not realize windows already redirect to the product, and add a symbol to disambiguate naturally. The rest is plain excessive and unlikely. Ca talk to me! 06:32, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


not entirely sure megamind as a franchise has dominion over the public perception of this specific word, or that tight would be a good target cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to wikt:tighten and hatnote to the previous target, essentially per nom. Duckmather (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Disambiguate. Per WP:SSRT, only topics with a less-than-encyclopedic scope that are commonly wikified words or that are repeatedly recreated should become soft redirects (emphases mine). This word is neither commonly wikified (indeed, there are no mainspace links that point to it), nor has it been repeatedly recreated. But because it might reasonably be a search term for multiple items on Wikipedia, and none seem like an easy primary topic, a dab page should suffice. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • What would you place on a disambiguation page for this term? There are over 10,000 uses of tighten (or variants like tightens, tightened, and tightening) in the mainspace. I couldn't review them all, but from what I did see, there aren't enough candidates to justify creating a disambiguation page. - Eureka Lott 04:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Like Eureka Lott, I struggled to find alternative candidates to list on a DAB page. I concur with Red-tailed hawk that a soft redirect is unhelpful here. In the absence of other suitable targets, I see no reason to change from the present one. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - agreeing with Presidentman, unless there's a few good suggestions for the contents of a DAB, I think it should remain as-is. I don't think the existing redirect is helpful to many people, but I don't think moving it to anywhere else would be an improvement either, so keep. BugGhost🪲👻 10:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Lua cites

Completely implausible search term and unused as a shortcut as the empty WLH shows. If kept, it should be dabified between its current target and Module:Citation/CS2. Nickps (talk) 13:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

if you are going to propose deleting Wikipedia:Lua cites, you should also propose deleting these, just as unused, redirects:

These redirects are stepping-stone artifacts left behind in the process of creating Module:Citation/CS1. They are no longer needed or used.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Template:Cite book/luaModule:Cite book would make sense too, ditto for the others. It's certainly more plausible than WP:Lua cites. Nickps (talk) 14:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'd forgotten about those modules so repointing the redirects seems the appropriate thing to do. Can I just do that or will someone's panties get in a bunch because of 'process'?
—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Considering that none of these templates are actually nominated for RfD, retargeting right away should be fine. Nickps (talk) 14:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done, except for Template:Citation/luaModule:Citation. That module exists as a nonfunctioning placeholder. It is the parent of Module:Citation/CS1 and was retained pursuant to a 2018 TfD.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll open a separate RfDTfD for that one. Nickps (talk) 15:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Obligatory link: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 July 8#Module:Citation. Nickps (talk) 17:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Three Mage-Sisters

They are not on the list. The one game they appear in, Kirby Star Allies, is a potential target but that article does not use this name for them. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i'd say mention the name in star allies cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
did it, so i'll vote for retargeting to kirby star allies cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


The section only mentions it once and in passing. No description of it is given. Also, this is a gameplay feature and not a character. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


"Nuzlocke" is not mentioned in the target article. Nuzlocke section was removed from the article in January 2023 and seems no one objected: [7]. In 2015, Nuzlocke article was redirected to Pokémon after an AfD. Mika1h (talk) 13:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i think a mention in gameplay of pokémon would work, but hopefully with better sources than the ones removed in that diff. put my vote on hold until i remember to look for that cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say re-add the information, although finding new sources would be a good improvement. On the contrary to user:Juxlos's judgement that the Nuzlocke Challenge is "nothing special" because "there are multiple fan-made modes": most of them are based on or inspired by the Nuzlocke, and AFAIK the ones that aren't come from the speedrunning community. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I must note here that my removal of Nuzlocke is a WP:DUE thing, not a WP:GNG. I have no objections to its notability, though I objected to its inclusion in the main article the same way I would object to including Pokémon Sage or Pokémon Fossil Museum in the main article. Juxlos (talk) 03:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hardcore Gamer (website)

The target page mentions the concept of a "hardcore gamer" but bears no reference to the website of that name. IceWelder [] 08:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

Too ambiguous a term to redirect to one song with lyrics that repeat the word "no". Walsh90210 (talk) 04:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I understand how ambiguous it gets when it comes to this song regarding the memorable "no, no, no" line. I mean what if there are new songs that use the same line? Inajd Inajd0101 (talk) 05:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"No Limit"? "Rehab"? Delete per nom as ambiguous. Tevildo (talk) 11:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that's fair. Inajd Inajd0101 (talk) 02:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not helpful, too ambiguous BugGhost🪲👻 11:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
could be just as easily associated with stardust crusaders or babysitting mama, so delete as vague cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do we keep this extremely vague redirect? What do you say, cat? No no no no no no no no? Very well then, we Delete. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Also, you're funny. Inajd Inajd0101 (talk) 04:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2015-16 Missouri Valley Conference men's basketball season

This appears to be an oddly specific way to handle a basketball season for an entire conference. I think this is better left as a redlink to encourage future creation, rather than as a redirect to the season for a single team. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Philippe, Charles

Charles-Philippe is a compound given name, so this comma format doesn't make any sense and should be deleted. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 7


Useless redirect — the term is not mentioned in the target article at all. (The article i was looking is for is Fist bump — it's a non-neutral name for that, and not mentioned in that article either) 2002:57CF:EE0A:1:E989:4C91:CB45:4CA (talk) 21:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - not mentioned anywhere, no clear target BugGhost🪲👻 11:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now corrected: keep. Drmies (talk) 16:24, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


This was flagged up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Searching for "Blagger" currently redirects to a page with no mention of the word. by user:Oathed with the comment seems weird that it doesn't link or disambig to Blagger (video game). Not sure how to mark a page for "Disambig page needed". At the very least this does need a hatnote to the video game, but I'm not acutally sure the video game isn't the primary target. Neither the present target nor Pretexting (linked as the main article) use the term. The only other uses I'm finding (Blaggers ITA (formerly known as The Blaggers) and The Blaggers Guide would be at most see-alsos on a dab page.
The video game article was created at this title but moved in March 2018 by Zxcvbnm with the summary "Merge, in order to disambiguate" but they just changed the redirect target and added a hatnote. The hatnote was removed without explanation by an IP in 2020, but the mention of "blagging" had been removed in July 2018 as part of a cull of unreferenced information by Michaelgt123. None of "blag", "blagging" or "blagger" has ever been included in the Pretext article. Thryduulf (talk) 20:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect made at least some sense at the time it was created. The article Pretext, as it appeared at the time, was about the general well-understood meaning of a "pretext"; a reason given in justification of a course of action that is not the real reason. It had only a single paragraph describing the social engineering trick.
Meanwhile, the article Social engineering (security), as it appeared at the time, in the section Pretexting, said "Pretexting..., also known in the UK as blagging". So that made at least some sense as a target (although even then, I think the video game article would have been a more appropriate target).
The video game seems pretty clearly to be the primary use for "Blagger"; if the "blagging" text is re-added to the Social engineering (security) article (as it probably should, there seems to be sufficient documentation of that, e.g., [13] at the BBC), it can be dealt with by ordinary disambiguation (hatnote or a Blagger (disambiguation) page, as appropriate). TJRC (talk) 02:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Should the page Blagger be a disambiguation page?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is there a primary topic?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, move Blagger (video game) to it, then add a hatnote. "Blagging" is an informal term in UK that has similarities to social engineering, but it's not quite the same thing - it's just a phrase that sort of means "bullshitter", someone who can make up lies quickly - social engineers will blag, but not all blaggers are social engineers. For example most improv comedians are good blaggers, but that doesn't mean they are doing anything nefarious. Seeing as Blagger (video game) exists, it should be the primary topic. BugGhost🪲👻 13:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's also not exclusively lying per se - it includes things like asking for something you know you aren't entitled to on the off-chance that the person you're asking wont check, presenting truths misleadingly or selectively. It is very significantly broader than social engineering. Thryduulf (talk) 11:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With The Blaggers now thrown into the mix, I wouldn't be against a disambiguation page. I still think Blagger (video game) is the primary topic here (it is the only topic being discussed that actually universally uses the name "Blagger"), but a disambiguation is far better than keeping the existing pretexting redirect. BugGhost🪲👻 15:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Apologies for relisting this again after being open so long, but I would appreciate additional comments considering CFA's recent addition of the term at the target. So, disambiguate or move the video game article to this title?
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It should redirect to Motswana. Not sure why this got reverted, the authority is wikitionary or however you spell it. Botswanan is not a proper word. [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] OK I think I’ve made my point. 48JCL 01:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oops wrong place 48JCL 01:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This is leading to agreement on a disambiguation page but it is unclear if the current redirect will be converted to it, or be targeted to a new disambiguation page that needs to be created.
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Aside from the "Petapixel redirects here", not mentioned in page. I can't find any discussion of the concept of a petapixel image to see if it should be mentioned in the page, search results are completely shadowed by PetaPixel. Possibly this should redirect there? Rusalkii (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment peta- is an SI prefix. JoshuaAuble (talk) 19:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Fieari JoshuaAuble (talk) 02:21, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete (effectively redirecting it to PetaPixel). Worth noting that other redirects to Gigapixel image include: Terapixel, Terapixel image, Petapixel image, Exapixel, Exapixel image, Zettapixel, Zettapixel image, Yottapixel, Yottapixel image. If this article actually covered giga (10^9) all the way up to yotta (10^24) then the article should be renamed to "High pixel count imagery" or something instead. Seeing as the article doesn't mention anything over terapixels, the Exa-, Zetta- and Yotta- redirects probably should be deleted too. BugGhost🪲👻 12:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trial by jury

Trial by Jury and Trial by jury go to completely different articles (the Gilbert and Sullivan opera and the legal system respectively). It's absolutely insane to have disambiguation by capitalization; clearly, the links from here to Jury trial should be replaced with a piped link. I don't think there's any other redirect where capitalisation makes a difference to which article you go to.

Trial by Jury has 581 uses, Trial by jury about 100. It would be far less disruptive to simply redirect to Trial by Jury. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 11:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above. Caps policy feels odd sometimes but it makes sense when the difference in caps distinguish the topics. There are a lot of articles/redirects that are separated by caps, eg. Lightning strike vs Lightning Strike; Silent Alarm vs Silent alarm, Holy fuck vs Holy Fuck, etc BugGhost🪲👻 13:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Wrong target, and there isn't a right one: Voi.id is an entirely different entity from Voice of Indonesia (which uses voinews.id). Herostratus (talk) 06:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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