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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 2, 2016.

Rabbi Wax

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wax (surname). JohnCD (talk) 13:05, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete (Neelix redirect). I've rcatted others (for keeps) such as Rabbi James Wax as ((R to section)), and put a courtesy note per WP:RSECT at the target, but usually a rabbi's style includes his first name, doesn't it? Honorifics_in_Judaism#Rabbi is silent on the matter, as is Rabbi (as far as I could find). That being said, it does no harm... but without it one would find the chap anyway. No links, three hits in ninety days. Si Trew (talk) 22:20, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Ci Ling

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 12#Ci Ling

Volkswagen Beduin

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The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 11:49, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently 'Bedouin' was a rumored name for the Tiguan back in the day. However, there is no mention of 'Bedouin' at the target article. -- Tavix (talk) 21:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of North Korean photographers

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 18:43, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Neelix redirects) Weak delete all. The target does not distinguish between North Korean and South Korean photographers, even in section List of Korean photographers#the second half of 20th century and thereafter, and in fact only one photographer in the whole article is linked (which is OK for a list although perhaps not very enlightening). I'm tempted to think these are WP:RFD#D2 confusing per WP:SURPRISE since they imply we have some info about specifically North Korean or South Korean photographers when in reality we don't. I can see that "North Korean" and "South Korean" are search terms perhaps as likely as, or more like than, just plain "Korean", though... but I doubt their absence would make the target harder to find, especially as we also have Korean photographer and Korean photographers to the same target, also by Neelix at the same time which I will keep as ((R from list topic)), so these are just the usual Neelix combinatorial explosion.

The 30-day stats are 0 for the first four, 2 and 3 for the "list of north" and "list of south" respectively. No incoming links for any of the first four, the last two have links from other lists, via the transclusion of the navbox factory at ((Asian topic|List of|photographers)). So there's a weak case to keep the last two to keep the navbox happy... but the other four I think can surely go. Si Trew (talk) 19:43, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, if we consider North and South Korea to be synonymous with the DPRK and ROK, then because they claim one another they can both be thought of same both North and South. Also, there doesn't seem to be any reason the distinction can't be added in the text.--Prisencolin (talk) 22:22, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep North Korean photographers, South Korean photographers, List of North Korean photographers, List of South Korean photographers. Weak keep North Korean photographer and South Korean photographer. These all seem like perfectly plausible searches to me. Tazerdadog (talk) 22:54, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Protein misfolders

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The result of the discussion was delete Protein misfolders and Protein misfolder. Keep Misfolding proteins and Misfolded proteins. No consensus for Misfolds proteins. -- Tavix (talk) 03:32, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all (neelix redirects): A bit like the ones below, bnut not enough for me to want to make them into one bunch. A protein being being misfolded is not the same as it being incorrectly folded, in the sense meant by biochemists or molecular modellers (I was one) working on protein folding problems. There are more general ones like misfold but they are just WP:SURPRISE and will list separately. Si Trew (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: relisting so both of these discussions are next to each other.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 20:41, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's done by the little buggers themselves under the action of enzymes, as any fule kno.Si Trew (talk) 05:20, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Misfolded

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The result of the discussion was keep but remove the section anchor. -- Tavix (talk) 03:23, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. (Neelix redirects). Way too specific a target, WP:RFD#D2 confusing per WP:SURPRISE and WP:XY. None is currently marked as ((R to section)), neither is there a courtesy comment at the target, per WP:RSECT and MOS:LINK2SECT, for these or the many other Neelix redirects to this section. Si Trew (talk) 19:15, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hope this helps. Shunt them to the top if you want, I'll just leave them clearly separated for now so I don't put words in others' mouths. Of these, Misfolded protein was created by User:Magnus Manske on 1 May 2008 and refined to section (from plain Protein folding) by Neelix on 23 November 2010; the others are Neelix creations pure and simple, the usual combinatorial explosion, on the same date. Si Trew (talk) 22:46, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We don't have protein folder or protein folders (and never have had), so if to use "folder" as an agent noun seems unlikely in this context, "misfolders" would seem unlikelier still.
We also have Misfolder which I took to CSD on 23 September but was undone a day later by User:Patar knight with the ES "Valid biochem term":
Si Trew (talk) 13:19, 3 October 2016 (UTC):[reply]
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List of

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:41, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Implausible redirect. List of whats? There are many lists on Wikipedia. Pppery 16:38, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. List of gets 5x the hits of those two articles combined [3]. I maintain that users are clicking through from the search bar after typing in "List of" and seeing this as the first option in the drop-down list. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:23, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight: Yup, sure enough, the math doesn't add up. Consider part of my previous statement struck out. Steel1943 (talk) 17:26, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I was able to remove the link from Saint-Germain-Laval, Seine-et-Marne in this edit, but for the life of me could not locate the link to List of in Outline of Alabama. Steel1943 (talk) 17:29, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Jobs and Wozniak

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The result of the discussion was retarget to History of Apple Inc.#1969–1984: Jobs and Wozniak. -- Tavix (talk) 18:39, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:XY. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 07:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 16:19, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The Simpsons (1989 TV series)

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per criterion G5. Deleted by Vanjagenije. Steel1943 (talk) 17:20, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Recently created unnecessary disambiguation redirect - no inbounds and extremely unlikely this will ever be used. This was created as part of a hoax campaign that created The Simpsons (2017 TV series). Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:08, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The Selena Foundation

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 11:53, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in article. SSTflyer 11:24, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Selena concert tours

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 11:55, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Was a list WP:BLARed to the main article, which does not contain a list of her concert tours. SSTflyer 11:23, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Lists

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of lists of lists. --BDD (talk) 18:37, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retargetted by IP editor in 2013 without discussion. Is the current target appropriate? I don't think so. SSTflyer 11:11, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also be fine with a retarget to List of lists of lists. If retargeted there, however, List of lists should also be retargeted there. -- Tavix (talk) 17:49, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 18:33, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Who would type this? BigGuy88 (talk) 08:34, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - These are her official titles, unless I'm mistaken, and redirects are cheap. Tazerdadog (talk) 09:37, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete, salt and close, all with extreme prejudice Despite the nominator being blocked, "Who would type this?" is a valid question. Especially as Wikipedia's autosuggest has gotten so much better in the 11 years I've been here.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:01, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Even if it's a valid question, it's not answered by any of the WP:RFD#DELETE criteria, which perhaps is why nobody has suggested one. (The nearest is probably WP:RFD#D7, "If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name"; my emphasis). I assert that I find them useful under WP:RFD#K5. Si Trew (talk) 09:08, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Based on that, then, and having read Wikipedia:Redirects are costly, I harden my stance against this time-wasting bullcrap.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:17, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Leaflesstongue orchids

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. (Neelix redirects). See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 September 29#Largetongue orchid: it is not that this orchid has a leafless tongue, but that this tongue orchid is leafless, so these noun fusions and hyphenations are WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. K listed for WP:X1 but they were removed by User:Tazerdadog with WP:ES "Remove leaflesstongue orchids again - I'd !vote keep on these, and it definitely isn't SNOw. No prejudice to a RFD nom, but it needs RFD." (diff here). Si Trew (talk) 06:26, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all - the common name for this species is the "Leafless Tongue Orchid", which makes the above plausible search terms. Tazerdadog (talk) 08:06, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As User:Plantdrew pointed out at the other RfD, the search engine is insensitive to hyphens (treats as spaces), so deleting them will have no downside as far as a search goes: whereas it has the small downside of people potentially linking to an ((R from incorrect name)). Si Trew (talk) 15:10, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Scho-Ta-Tola

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The result of the discussion was Keep (non-admin closure) Pppery 00:24, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion. Unnecessary redirect: the creator of this redirect has misconceived the old German script "k" printed on old style confectionery tins in Fraktur for being a "t". Nightsturm (talk) 02:50, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Military of switzerland

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The result of the discussion was Keep (non-admin closure) Pppery 16:31, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this redirect. There is another, nearly identical redirect, "Military of Switzerland" (notice the capitalization of the "S") that redirects to the same article. Because Wikipedia does not take capitalization into account when searching, this redirect is not needed. Also, the fact that the "s" is lowercase in this redirect is very annoying for me, and presumably others as well. --1990'sguy (talk) 00:42, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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