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I am requesting a name change to Joy. --Shallot 12:16, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This page is now archived. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 12:07, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I was 5 min late

Joy, :-) I just realized that we already have Category:People of the Ottoman Empire of Croatian descent.--౪ Santa ౪99° 18:57, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


I received a notification with my name in it showing that I would be blocked. Why? Why I would be blocked from contributing to Wikipedia? jeromeenriquez

Nomination of Čerčan for deletion

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"Partisan reprisal killings" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Elections in Croatia before independence

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Hi Joy

Can you check these sources[[1]] from Ip, i don't want to change anything maybe Admin Drmies is right. Thank you. (talk) 16:37, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Former Yugoslavia" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Thanks for indirectly bringing me to notice what the user was doing instead of participating in the discussion. I doubt the reporting is solely their doing because happened too fast probably to stop me from starting the RfC, differs from their style and editing capacity, and even made such remarks about me. It seems I'm still target of Serbian editors trio including Amanuensis Balkanicus and Sadko becauce of my insistence to NPOV. AB was informed about it and if you missed or forgot check admin Peacemaker67's comments from a year ago: "appears to be another in a series of reports from Serbian POV editors against Croatian POV editors, all while both sides claim they are being NPOV... It is as weak as the others, and adds to a disturbing trend of Serbian POV editors trying to get rid of Croatian POV editors from en WP" and "Given their prompt appearance to support each other on diverse articles across many time periods of the Balkans, I have no doubt that there is some serious off-Wiki coordination going on betwen these editors".--Miki Filigranski (talk) 19:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Re:Government-in-exile again

Thanks for the explaination/Hvala na objašnjenju! Ostavio sam komentar na SZR. Lijepo te pozdravlja, Koreanovsky (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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"Empyrean (Warhammer)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Imotsko Polje moved to draftspace

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Nomination for merger of Template:BLP primary sources

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Hi Joy. Question about the Tomislav of Croatia article

Hello Joy. Hope all is well. I have a question about illustrations of kings in articles. For example for the Tomislav of Croatia just a few days ago there was a brief back and forth over removing or keeping the picture illustration of King Tomislav I. I restored it as I don’t get the reasoning of why the image of a king from a 1000 years ago is inappropriate? I came to you as I know you have experience with Croatian history articles and Wikipedia criteria. Your help would be great. Cheers. OyMosby (talk) 18:41, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Whether you're involved or not, I suspect that you're interested. Uncle G (talk) 23:55, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Further to that: Is there any chance of you starting a talk page discussion? List the sources cited in the edit war, and start a discussion of whether and how they are problematic or best used? From Special:Diff/1081169519 it would seem that you have views more imaginative than simply the usual "Ethnicity A[1][2][3][4][5][6]" versus "Ethnicity B[1][2][3][4][5][6]" one-word-in-the-first-sentence-of-the-article silliness. Lurkers with imaginative views: the same. Uncle G (talk) 02:25, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks, at the time I couldn't even remember what it was called in Croatian :) Daß Wölf 04:06, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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You have over 100,000 edits, why aren't you autopatrolled?

People who can write good articles should get autopatrol. The NPP queue is bad enough as it is. (t · c) buidhe 13:22, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Milan Tepić

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I just noticed this. Why change the direct link to a redirect? I've gone with this which gives both spellings. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 03:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Pozdrav, Joy. Hello. Let me do something about THIS: I'd like to find a better place for it because that one letter V looks like a template glitch when it's standing alone at the bottom of the graph. What say you? Ponor (talk) 13:53, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Recent manor edits on Croatia

There have been a lot of edits that seems to be a bit weird and make the article less concise. Could you take a look at the removed content? Edits such as removing “of Croatia” or “Croatia” from a lot of places, perhaps looking to remove repetition, but don’t seem to make sense just remove context in the greater paragraph. I don’t understand the reasoning. For example the “Croatian Dialects” image where Croatia was removed and it was just map of dialects and Bosnia. If you could take a look it would be appreciated. A second opinion. These edits seem bigger than simply grammar and may need proofreading. Cheers OyMosby (talk) 20:00, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but I was hoping for a second opinion on the edits side from myself. I figured you would be a good person to turn to given you have edited on the pages before. OyMosby (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Hrvatska metropola

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Hi Joy, red links have different guidelines in DAB pages and articles. I unlinked Remete, Zagreb according to MOS:DABRED - Remete isn't linked in Maksimir, so it's a MOS:DABMENTION. That's easily changed, of course, but I wasn't sure if Remete, Zagreb is notable, so I didn't link it myself. Leschnei (talk) 13:34, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Familiar with this issue?

Hey again Joy. Are you familiar with this user or this issue? I am Not aware with any controversy with the intro. Do you have any input on whether the original intro I restored or their revised intro is more accurate? I would think that Dalmatia being a part of Croatia today would make it relevant in relation to the country today. Seems weird to remove that. OyMosby (talk) 21:28, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but I am asking what is your opinion on the matter? Was the editor correct to remove it or was I correct to restore it. Dalmatia is currently one of the regions that makes up modern Croatia. So it would seem most relevant present day in the intro. Or perhaps you are disagreeing? Well, unfortunately for them, the history of Dalmatia predates the past 600 years. I’ll go by what Reliable Sources label it rather than editors with a self concluded pov. :). {[1] Frucht, Richard C. (2004). Eastern Europe: An Introduction to the People, Lands, and Culture. Vol. 1 } Even before Venice rule, it was at times part of forms of a “Croatia” so I would think that it isn’t wrong to day it historical was. And is today. Slavonia for a long time before Savic Migration was not Croatian, but that is not made a foul point. Seems more like pov pushes from certain Italian viewpoint that continues to be a problem on these articles. The pattern of everyone owns Croatia except for... Croatia. I mentioned to them that they may bring it up on the talk oage if they are looking to make such changes in the future. OyMosby (talk) 11:11, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. Thanks Joy! Well then I’ll go with what the sources say. Being on the topic of intros... Recent in February this edit was added to the Croatia article. is factual, is it sort of undue to place it in the modern country’s intro? I don see Bosnia or other articles discuss in the intro historic war crimes. Seems odd and for a long time stable. Is it warranted? It is already discussed in the article among the other comes of the era as well such as those by Italian forces and the Slavic concentration camps and Chetniks and their smaller genocidal massacres. Should then other crimes such that of Chetniks during WWII and so on be mentioned as well? Or should the focus just be the difference form a of Croatia that took place? I understand that these articles are at times used to for WP SCORE SETTLING” which is a concern. And thank you for your time. OyMosby (talk) 19:42, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you. It definitely does not follow the simple formulation most other country intros follow. But if I were to make the changes, I fear the controversy I will stumble into as one can see already when a part of the intro was removed, it already met discontent. As Balkan articles typical do. Frustrating and at this point tiring to see. Might as well write the whole article in the article intro as a form of articleception. Like the film Inception. Lol. Sigh... OyMosby (talk) 20:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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