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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022[edit]

Hello PamD,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022

Suggestions:

Backlog:
Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023[edit]

Hello PamD,

New Page Review queue December 2022
Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

Reminders
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  • There is live chat with patrollers on the New Page Patrol Discord.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023[edit]

Hello PamD,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

Reminders

The Blackpool article...[edit]

Orphaned non-free image File:Logo of National Day of Reflection (UK).png[edit]

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Thanks for uploading File:Logo of National Day of Reflection (UK).png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 03:15, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Margaret Parker (Q18762034)[edit]

A tag has been placed on Margaret Parker (Q18762034) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a recently created redirect from an implausible typo or misnomer, or other unlikely search term.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Fram (talk) 09:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So, just checking, @Fram and @Deb Was creating that redirect the right thing to do? I found her as a red link in Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Temperance worker, and discovered that she already had an article as Margaret Eleanor Parker. I reckoned that creating the redirect would save other WiR editors from wasting time thinking about, or making, a duplicate article for her. I think I checked that she was already linked as a hatnote from the article which was then at the base name of Margaret Parker, and I also did what I could to get the two Wikidata entries combined. See discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red#Another redirect, Henrietta Brown (Q115787698). Was it correct to create this redirect as a temporary measure? PamD 15:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think this needs to be solved at Wikidata level, by merging/redirecting the duplicate entry to the existing one, not by "polluting" enwiki (I mean it less accusatory than it probably sounds, I don't mean to claim that you were vandalizing or anything similar). Take for example Ida Henrietta HydeWD entry and Ida HydeWD entry. At Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Inventors, we have a redlink for Ida Hyde (Q122841752), but what needs to be done is not the creation of this redlink, but the removal (as a separate entry) of the duplicate Wikidata entry: when this is done, the next run of Listeriabot should remove the entry from the WiR list. Until that next run, you could also edit the WiR list to point to the right article on enwiki of course. Fram (talk) 15:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry, I hadn't looked at the history carefully enough. @Fram is right, of course. Deb (talk) 15:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Deb@Fram Thanks, both. So another time I should fix the WikiData duplication, and then pipe the redlink in the table to the existing article, because the next run to produce an updated table will not include an entry for this person because the duplicate WikiData entry which was creating it will no longer exist. I think I've got that clear now! "Every day a school day" when it comes to editing Wikipedia (especially in the somewhat baffling territory of Wikidata). I hope I can remember it next time I find one of these. PamD 16:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please check this[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Keyserzozie/Archive I don't think this is a fair record of what you did. I'm logging out now and staying out. NoorStores (talk) 10:56, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NoorStores I don't think I harassed them, and nor does the SPI report suggest that I did. I'd have liked to see a reply to my question as to whether they had been a paid editor while doing their earlier work on the JH etc articles, but I asked it three days after their last edit (under that editor name!), so no surprise to get no response.
I've replied to "logging out now and staying out" at User talk:NoorStores#Goodbye or .... PamD 15:08, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Welcome to the drive![edit]

Welcome, welcome, welcome! Thank you so much for joining the drive. When I perform a scan of articles belong to Category:Women writers and Category:All articles lacking sources using PetScan, I found that there are 52 articles:

Since you are a member of the WP:Women in Red project, I think you might be interested in these articles and you might want to practice your citation skills on them. Anyways, I wish you good luck on the drive on February 1! You'll need it. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 13:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@CactiStaccingCrane Dipping into a couple of those at random, I think I'm going to need to brush up my knowledge of what is and isn't a WP:RS for people like SF writers! I might have a go at some of these, in Feb, or I might go for the random approach or pick a chunk of the alphabet of the general listing. I've not used PetScan but had a go at changing your "Women writers" to "British women", still intersecting with unsourced, which produces an interesting batch of 56 articles ... including the baffling Scotland's Forgotten Valour. I can only think that the category Category:Victoria Cross books got interpreted as "Books by the (female) writer called Victoria Cross"! Several of the others need access to "Debretts" or similar: I might even make a list of those and pop it on the talk page of a relevant Wikiproject. I'll enjoy doing something with these, in Feb. Makes a change from fractious discussions about spats between twittering writers. PamD 15:48, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm very glad that you enjoy the drive, indeed it is also an excuse for me to not joining any AfD and getting suck into nasty debates. There's another more convenient way to find articles than using PetScan, which is [search term] incategory:"All articles lacking sources". It's pretty interesting what you can found on there. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 00:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Books & Bytes – Issue 60[edit]

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 60, November – December 2023

  • Three new partners
  • Google Scholar integration
  • How to track partner suggestions

Read the full newsletter

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --13:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Women in Red February 2024[edit]

Women in Red | February 2024, Volume 10, Issue 2, Numbers 293, 294, 297, 298


Online events:

Announcement

  • Please let other wikiprojects know about our February Black women event.

Tip of the month:

  • AllAfrica can now be searched on the ProQuest tab at the WP Library.

Other ways to participate:

Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Lajmmoore (talk 20:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC) via MassMessagingReply[reply]

The Signpost: 31 January 2024[edit]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Deserts of Greece[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Deserts of Greece indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 20:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Welcome to the drive![edit]

Welcome, welcome, welcome PamD! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

CactiStaccingCrane (talk)15:39, 2 February 2024 UTC [refresh]via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

Clach-beinn[edit]

Did you mean to title this without the "h"? The Ordnance Survey and all 3 sources in the article call it "Clach-bheinn". Should it be moved without redirect at WP:RMT to Clach-bheinn, Highland or just Clach-bheinn? Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Crouch, Swale Thanks for spotting that! I've fixed it, I think. Have spent too much of this afternoon sorting out another pair of confused Scottish mountains, going off at tangents from WP:FEB24. All very satisfying, filling in bits of the jigsaw. I see you noticed my new parish article yesterday and gave it an infobox, thanks. PamD 17:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great Lives[edit]

I finished with the available categories for Great Lives. You can proceed with updating the text. Dimadick (talk) 14:13, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dimadick Thanks! I'll load up the rest of the current series ... which may leave you some more categories to add. PamD 14:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Dimadick Done. PamD 16:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A tag has been placed on Eleonara Amalia Maria Adelborg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Misspelled. --DaizY (talk) 22:36, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. DaizY (talk) 22:41, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A tag has been placed on Eleonara Adelborg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Misspelled. --DaizY (talk) 22:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. DaizY (talk) 22:43, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Signpost: 13 February 2024[edit]

Museumand article[edit]

Hi, @PamD, just alerting you to an AfD discussion I've started at an article you created. All the best, Emmentalist (talk) 20:31, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Knockbrack, County Dublin[edit]

It's currently just a blank page – would you like it deleted or as a redirect? DanCherek (talk) 22:59, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleted, please: I created another redirect at Knockbrack (Dublin) in line with other Irish mountains. Thanks. PamD 23:04, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, done. Thanks! DanCherek (talk) 23:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 19 § Category:Zoos by year of disestablishment on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:31, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]