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--Innisfree987 (talk) 04:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

edit conflict[edit]

apologies, there are some examples of truly eccentric referencing at the lady lee steere and I have lost them all (the corrections) after the edit conflict, not sure I am going to try again tonight, but there is a major problem with identifying places against Australia when there are more than one... Needless to say I have a very distant and indirect and complex connection (in no way coi) with the subject, and was hoping to clean up a bit... It seems if I understand trove there were two lady lee steere's - but it might be time of night and my misreading...

try for size: - {cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article147732169 |title=LADY LEE STEERE. |newspaper=The South-western News |volume=XX, |issue=971 |location=Western Australia |date=10 November 1922 |accessdate=3 May 2022 |page=3 |via=National Library of Australia))

I am wondering where the on earth canning city came from ? It's like the eccentric Perth Australia which is clearly false. JarrahTree 16:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@JarrahTree: I'm just about to make a dab page - her son was also knighted so there are 2 Lady LS. As for Canning? The infobox was linking to a football club! This is a new and enthusiastic editor who has learned a lot but needs to learn more - see my essays on her talk page. But really "Perth, Australia" is what most of us think of as a natural term, to distinguish from Scotland, not knowing about Tasmania! I hope I've reinstated your edits OK: in the recent ec I had done so many little apostrophe changes etc that I was reluctant to lose them. PamD 16:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your understanding and explanation, much appreciated - I have a deep ingrained dislike of things like 'perth australia', but that's a long unnecessary story at this point - Thanks for cleaning up things, the story of lee steere family is an interesting mine of western australian history, and its good that there is some venturing into... Thanks again, I do hope I didnt seem too complaining, it has been, an interesting day. JarrahTree 16:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@JarrahTree: Three Lady LSs so far! I had good intentions for getting RL stuff done today - WIkipedia does lead us down so many timesink rabbitholes! PamD 16:46, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you I had yet another edit conflict that was identifying the third - I wouldnt be surprised in the least is there are other noble versions of the family with names or accolades as yet uncovered... gotta go... JarrahTree 16:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@JarrahTree: As Bridget has stuff named after her, Lady Lee Steere campsite or whatever, it seemed important to provide that access, so here we are! Yes, there are probably umpteen other families where we haven't listed all the "Lady X" wives. Ah well. Just looked at clock. Entire afternoon gone. PamD 16:53, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Had no idea that wasn't a stub[edit]

I saw The First Academy coming up short and with natural instinct I marked it as a stub. I wonder how that wasn't? (not mad just curious as to how stubs are marked) GreenGrenier (talk) 11:56, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@GreenGrenier: There is no very clear definition of a stub, but "coming up short", ie having scope for improvement and expansion, does not make something a stub: almost every article short of a WP:FA has scope for expansion and improvement. WP:STUB goes some way to describing. This one had 200 words, several refs, an infobox, seemed to be beyond a stub, though not by miles. If an article has been around since 2008, tagged as a stub up to about 2011 but no longer, it is unlikely to be useful to label it now as a stub. To be honest, if the ((stub)) tag had been in the right place, at the bottom of the article (see WP:ORDER) I might have stubsorted it to ((Florida-school-stub)), but when a stub tag is in the wrong place and seems marginal, especially when editing on my phone where I have to edit one section at a time so it would have taken two separate edits to put the right stub tag in the right place, it's a hassle and I removed the tag.
I didn't see much advertising, though I've tweaked the boasting about "best private school" to adjust it to what the sources say. If it had been honoured for 7 years, it needs a source which says so. (When that "advert" tag was added the article looked like this: some unsourced boasting about sport and an infobox but nothing much else!)
The most interesting thing was the paragraph about demographics, which started talking about a student body of 522 in 2018, compared to 1400 (or "over 1250") now. Odd. Looking at the source it was for a completely separate school in Leesburg in a different county of Florida! I've now removed that section (Hmm, is it now short enough to be a stub? Probably not.) The article has had a complicated edit history with a lot of COI editing, which happens with schools sometimes.
I hope some of that explanation helps clarify. Happy Editing! PamD 13:58, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for dialling back my axe swinging PamD, i'm actually fairly inclusionist (you have to be at WP India) but it was very late and those sources had already worn me down from a recent encounter. Not entirely sure what i was thinking about the church and school, i've seen the likes a thousand times in village articles, but in this instance they just felt a bit fancrufty.

I've restored three of the changes i made, such as directly citing the Cameroon Tribune (rather than the aggregate All-Africa), removing lede overcite re Fako (the cite is unnecessary as the Fako article i linked to (verified content) supports that Buea is a sub-division of Fako) and removing the Bakweri statement. That specific statement about the tribal majority is imo OR, based on more general information, and anything relating to group identity (tribes, caste etc) and a location has the potential to be contentious.

The excessive stub category was my bad, i got a bit mixed up between specific stub categories and the sitewide maintenance one which iirc previously had to be populated separately.

I hope the current revision of Lysoka Moliwe is agreeable and that you can see there was at least some reason behind the apparent madness. All the best, Zindor (talk) 14:22, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]