Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the ((Category redirect|...)) template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
Include "CfD", "CfM", "CfR", "CfS" or "CfL" in the edit summary, and do not mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving.
To add the template for previous nomination days, use the "full" version of the template by appending "full" to the template name, i.e. ((cfd full)), ((cfm full)), ((cfr full)), ((cfs full)) and ((cfl full)). Use the |day=, |month= and |year= parameters to make the banner link to the correct CfD page.
Consider adding ((subst:cfd notice|Category name|2022 July 21|CfD section name)) ~~~~ to the talk page of the category's creator.
For details about these templates, see each template's documentation.
Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the text= parameter, omit the Category: prefix and do not use wikilinks, as the template takes care of this.
If nominating a single category:
For deleting, use ((subst:Cfd2|Obsolete category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~))
For merging, use ((subst:Cfm2|Origin category|Destination category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~))
For renaming, use ((subst:Cfr2|Current category|Proposed name|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. ~~~~))
For splitting, use ((subst:Cfs2|Current category|Proposed category 1|Proposed category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed split. ~~~~))
For converting the category into a list, use ((subst:Cfc2|Current category|Proposed article|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~))
For other options (containerization, etc.), use ((subst:Cfd2|Current category|type=other type|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~))
For a bundled nomination, use one of the standard templates to build the "Cfd section name" for the first nominated category. After saving that, the second and subsequent nominations must be inserted manually, as follows:
==== Cfd section name ====
* 1st category
* 2nd category [Make clear whether you propose deletion, merging or renaming]
* Your reason for nominating the categories, and signature.
If a bundled nomination is too long, consider using ((hidden)) to hide some of the nominated categories.
In your reason, use links if mentioning articles or categories. To link to a category, use the colon trick by adding a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, e.g. [[:Category:Foo]].
Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
For deletion, use ((subst:sfd-t2|TemplateName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~))
For renaming, use ((subst:sfr-t2|TemplateOldName|TemplateNewName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~))
In your rationale, mention how many articles currently use the template to help other editors. When linking to a category in your rationale, always add a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, like [[:Category:Foo]]. This makes a category link that can be seen on the page, and avoids putting this page into the category you are nominating.
Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.
Notifying interested projects and editors
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use ((subst:cfd notice|Category name|2022 July 21|CfD section name)) ~~~~ or write a personalized message.
Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use ((Cfd notice)) to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding ((Category redirect|target)) to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as ((db|reason)) with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with ((db-empty)). Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and ((moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~)). If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use ((subst:cfm-speedy)) (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
When handling the listings:
Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
contest, the article Ollie Green is about a film producer and director. The category refers to a different Ollie Green who is British and record producer. >>Lil-unique1(talk) — 12:14, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Are these really C2C, though? For all that it's a little weird we apparently categorize ACW by victories or defeats rather than just "battles involving (country)"... I don't see the issue with using an adjective form here, so the higher-level category using the country form isn't necessarily relevant on a C2C basis (e.g. Category:French cuisine is a subcategory of Category:Food and drink in France, C2C wouldn't allow a speedy move to "France cuisine"). It seems like this should have been discussed, at least? But maybe I'm missing something. SnowFire (talk) 17:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@SnowFire: Do you accept this rationale? If you still dispute it then I will reverse these as needing a full discussion. – FayenaticLondon 18:10, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't. Let's have the full discussion (@Gonnym:). Agree with Gonnym that categories are stricter about not requiring disambiguation, but not when the category title includes "of the American Civil War" which fixes any disambiguation concerns immediately. For the war crimes one, everything except the US in Category:War crimes committed by country is done in adjectival form ("Italian war crimes"). The cemeteries one is the least relevant, it's not a big deal, but I'd argue that the new title sounds like it's vaguely suggesting cemeteries operated by the CSA (during the Civil War?) rather than cemeteries-of-dead-Confederates. SnowFire (talk) 18:21, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion if someone takes these to full discussion, I suggest three separate discussions since the issues/consideraions differ across the three. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:00, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Timrollpickering: we have duplication and so should merge one way or the other. The capitalised version is the newer page. C2C within Category:Chief justices by country would currently mean using capitals, but IMHO the subcats of that one all need renaming to lower case like Category:Vice presidents – within that one, the articles about the office use capitals, but generic references to the title in plurals (lists and category names) use lower case. There is a guideline about this but I can't remember it right now... – FayenaticLondon 19:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I dont mind which way it goes. Can we merge them and then discuss the capitalisation? Rathfelder (talk) 23:02, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reverse merge per C2C & C2D Most categories are still using capitals properly, they haven't been changed by the handful of obsessives who forced a bad section into the style guide and then proceeded to treat it as a dictat from on high. The office/title distinction is a hair split given how often a post holder is referred to by the position title as a proper noun but that distinction has been lost on the obsessives. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:30, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Process as nominated. Chief Justice of Gibraltar is a title; Chief justices of Gibraltar is not. Oculi (talk) 22:06, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The proposed category is far, far wider than the current category - Historical governments of Crimea covers the variety of governments that have existed in Crimea. Political history would cover elections, referendums and presidents. Political history is a decent category - but it is too wide for this. JASpencer (talk) 10:48, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@JASpencer:These would make good subcategories for political history. However, the parent category is political history, not the messy "Historical governments of Crimea". Under this category there should be made a Category:Governments in Crimea, as per precedent seen elsewhere. Note that not all current occupants of the category belong in that subcategory, as Jewish autonomy in Crimea is not a historical government of Crimea, but is most definitely relevant to its political history. Hecseur (talk) 00:49, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: As for this, there seems to be a misunderstanding, as Crimea is NOT a FORMER territorial entity. Crimea is not a former country, nor a former subdivision of a country, it is the geogrpahic territorial entity of the Crimean peninsula. Hecseur (talk) 01:00, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle:I have no problem with the title Category:Former territorial entities in Crimea and also no problem at all with this being a sub category of Category:Political history of Crimea. This sounds like an improvement on the current situation that would meet @Hecseur:'s concerns. JASpencer (talk) 05:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This probably should go to a full discussion.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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