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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 3, 2024.

Not real

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 10:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can be used in many contexts, and the current target never says "not real" at any point. Unreality disambiguation discusses several options which are infinitely more suitable from my perspective, i.e. derealization, an r from antonym to the reality, or just going to the disambig page if it has to, if anywhere at all. It's impossible to pin down a target I'd think.

Also fiction is still... real. Fiction, exists. (at least its REAL to ME 🥺). Anyway, this baffles. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete as vague as h*ck. could be referring to "any currency besides brl" as far as the definition cares cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Wiimmfi

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The result of the discussion was retarget to GameSpy#Shutdown. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 19:56, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article for GameSpy currently links to Wiimmfi, which then links to Mario Kart Wii#Legacy, a subsection that doesn't exist. Nowhere in the current Mario Kart Wii article does Wiimmfi ever get mentioned. Either a proper article for Wiimmfi should be made, or this redirect should be deleted and the link to it from GameSpy should be removed. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 03:35, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Which means that the GameSpy link is now less than useless, given that's exactly the amount of information that can be gleaned from the GameSpy article itself. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 05:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Viennoise

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 15#Viennoise

Lake Surikiña

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 16#Lake Surikiña

Graffiti S

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. After nearly a month at RfD and no comments following two relists it's clear that another relist will not be worth our time. Thryduulf (talk) 11:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No mention at target, I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 21:22, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Middle School S

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. With no new comments after the second relist, participants remain evenly divided. Thryduulf (talk) 11:55, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No mention at target, I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 21:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pointy S

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. No comments since the second relist, so further relisting doesn't seem likely to be helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 11:58, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Way too vague, I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 21:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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LGBT reproduction

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 11#LGBT reproduction

Paramount Television International Studios

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 19:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request to delete this redirect. Checking through the page history of the target page, it seems the editor who moved the article to the now-redirect title was put off after discovering the Paramount Television Studios (PTS) article that it may have a link to the target's actual name (TIS) when a reputable source in-page actually reveals the contrary. PTS doesn't have or never had any international division since formation as their output is rather/instead handled by Paramount Global Content Distribution. Intrisit (talk) 19:00, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Al-Shabaab (militant group and etc.

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 10:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A bundle of pages missing parenthesis after their disambiguation. In all of these cases, there is an identical version to this title, plus a closing parenthesis, that already exists. These redirects' entire histories have existed as just redirects, without any past content. Pageviews for all of these titles are low according to massviews. These titles are all implausible due to the missing parenthesis, cannot be predicted to exist, and will not be sought normally. Utopes (talk / cont) 18:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, Wikipedia shouldn't (and doesn't) need such pages, but is there any harm in having them once they've been created? I suppose there could be; is there a non-negligible increase in server costs associated with them existing? Zezizzebezt (talk) 20:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the redirect exists, it's because somebody was dumped onto that page instead of where they were trying to go because some external source (search engine or embedded link or whatever) left off the closing parenthesis and they fixed that problem with a redirect so that it went straight to the correct page. It's not as if the lack-of-closing-parenthesis redirect page would ever be used for anything other than a redirect, so why get rid of it if one or more people have accidentally landed there? ErdrickLoto (talk) 19:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only possible reason for this sort of redirect to exist is because of an external page that mishandles parentheses. We shouldn't need to bloat our wiki with an extra redirect for every single page- and every single redirect- that includes a closing parentheses at the end of the title. Instead, the other sites should fix their link handling in a manner that un-breaks the link. Thus, whenever one of these redirects shows up here in RfD, they typically end up deleted, as per WP:UNNATURAL. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 20:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would argue that "redirects are cheap", a guiding principle of RfD, says the opposite of this - [r]edirects take up minimal disk space and use very little bandwidth; therefore, it doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. WP:RDAB & WP:UNNATURAL do not explain why these redirects are costly enough to warrant deletion. (To be clear, I'm not proposing the creation of an extra redirect for every single page here - just that the ones that already exist don't need to be deleted.) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 10:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:RDAB and WP:UNNATURAL point to a section of WP:COSTLY. The full article explains in great detail why bad redirects are costly. Indeed, while I'm not the biggest fan of parts of this article (WP:PANDORA in particular is admittedly against WP:WHATABOUT), it is a very necessary article. After all, if RfD were meant to never ever delete any redirects ever... are we only here to retarget redirects??? Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 14:21, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are definitely many redirects that need deleting, and I'm definitely not arguing that no redirects should ever be deleted - the redirect guideline lists possible such reasons for deleting. The section of WP:COSTLY that contains WP:RDAB and WP:UNNATURAL starts off [t]here is no need to redirect from. To me, this doesn't explain why the listed redirects are costly or warrant deletion - just that, in the opinion of the essayist, these redirects don't need to be created in the first place. However, that is a very different thing to deciding to delete a redirect that already exists - which, as far as I can see, the essay doesn't provide any reason to do. (I would argue that part of WP:COSTLY actually argues in favour of keeping these particular redirects - Wikipedia:Redirects are costly § Incoming traffic is cheap notes that [o]ne valid reason for retaining an older redirect is that it is linked to from outside Wikipedia.) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 22:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...Honestly, imo WP:COSTLY just straight-up needs a rewrite lol. Incoming Traffic Is Cheap is confusingly written to the point where it seems to contradict the rest of the article, WP:PANDORA goes against WP:WHATABOUT... Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 03:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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South West Asia and North Africa

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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 18:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither are mentioned at the target, and, unless they are, there is no reason for them to exist. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:59, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reminisce (rapper

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:10, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This page was created as a duplicate of Reminisce (rapper), containing only the first sentence of this article from its previously POV-heavy state at the time, having been tagged as "written like an advertisement". In any case, the edit was immediately reverted and converted into a redirect before an hour had passed in its existence. The missing parenthesis makes this an implausible title to refer to the subject. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Robbery Under Arms (1943 radio adaptation

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6. The creator's edit summaries make it explicit this title was created by mistake. Thryduulf (talk) 18:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect missing a closing parenthesis. The page history contains an identical copy of the Robbery Under Arms (1943 radio adaptation) contents, which was created at the typoed title unintentionally. The article here was created in one edit, and converted into a redirect with the next. The lack of the closing parenthesis makes this title an unlikely term for the subject. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nitrilotris(methylenephosphonic acid

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An acid redirect that is missing the closing parenthesis. This issue has since been fixed, as there is now a correct version in existence at Nitrilotris(methylenephosphonic acid). Still though, the remaining search term is unlikely to be referred to with the unclosed brackets. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2 of 2

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:13, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feels like an implausible way to search for this album specifically, as well as an impractical way to search for anything of the type generally. If there were something else in front, a listing like Number Two, Part Two, Volume Two would work well enough as a new target, which the album could then potentially also be added to... but there isn't. Absent such a something, 2 (disambiguation) would be the closest equivalent, but using that seems pointless at best. The most useful thing that occurred to me is that "2 of 2" is commonly written as "2/2", as there happens to already be a dab page there, which could be broadened. None of the current entries really use it in a sense close to this one, though, so the match would be on the clumsy side of things. FWIW, I also looked for corresponding redirects at 3 of 3 thru 9 of 9 in hopes of a nice precedent, and didn't find any, but drew the line at trying number pairs like 2 of 3. Obviously some are going to exist due to having some special significance, such as 7 of 9, but I doubt there's anything to be gleaned there... - 89.183.221.71 (talk) 17:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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What Happened?

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The result of the discussion was retarget to What Happened. ✗plicit 14:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Itzy Bitzy Spider

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Itsy Bitsy Spider and the songs to Itsy Bitsy Spider (disambiguation). Jay 💬 17:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget the first to Itsy Bitsy Spider and the second and third to Itsy Bitsy Spider (disambiguation) due to a possible spelling. 176.33.244.31 (talk) 08:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oink! (computer game)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Oink! (video game). (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 19:58, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This can be confused with the entirely unrelated game Oink! (video game) as the terms "computer game" and "video game" are used almost interchangeably. There is not much to say about the game Oink! in the Beagle Bag collection as it is, and this redirect has no incoming links. Retarget to Oink! (video game). JIP | Talk 18:54, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Long film

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of longest films. Jay 💬 18:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Films that are long are not automatically feature films, these are by no means synonymous. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget as per Thryduulf. For the proposed hatnote, maybe something like, "Long film redirects here. For feature-length films, see Feature film." Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 13:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Bryant Packard

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 10:23, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Released by Detroit last July, still a minor league free agent. There's nowhere for this to target. Hog Farm Talk 02:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Caleb Simpson

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 10:23, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Released last July by Cleveland and is still a minor league free agent. While this is the the draft space, there is no substantive content to be worried about, as this has always been a redirect. Hog Farm Talk 01:57, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kyle Marman

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 10:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Released by Cleveland last year; MiLB has him as a free agent. There's nowhere for this redirect to point. Hog Farm Talk 01:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marcos González (baseball)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 10:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Released by the Guardians in July, not currently with any team per MiLB's website. There's nowhere for this redirect to point to. Hog Farm Talk 01:50, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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