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Lady Kiritsubo (mother of Hikaru Genji) is a second class concubine of Emperor. She is not Empress. Generally she is called Kiritsubo no Koui (2nd class concubine at Kiritsubo). So I propose change of article name and its move.--Stella maris (talk) 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Wikipedia does not use the romanization "koui"; it would be "kōi." For reference, the article in the Japanese Wikipedia is at 桐壺更衣. Fg2 (talk) 20:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
[ADDITION]: In Japanese, /oo/, /ō/, and /ou/ are clearly distinguished. /おお/, /おー/, /おう/ are correspondent scripts in Japanese. And Ja-Wikipedia uses these distinctions. Look at 桐壺更衣, you can see that (きりつぼのこうい) is written. Your point is just local rule of en-wikipedia, not rule in ja-wikipedia (However, this is problem in En-Wikipedia, so I agree with your comment.) --Stella maris (talk) 15:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a problem with En-Wikipedia, but a shortcoming of the most common romanization system in English (which is also used by En-Wikipedia). For more info, please see WP:MOS-JA. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe03:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The most recent full translation (by Royall Tyler, 2003) uses Kiritsubo Consort. This is preferable to using a Japanese rank untranslated; we are intended for English speakers, and they will probably search for that phrase. SeptentrionalisPMAnderson20:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose; the reversed form does not scan for me, and I could not find any use of "Consort Kiritsubo" on Google or Google Books (0 hits). Dekimasuよ!14:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]