Contested close of move request[edit]

@Kingsif: Hello. A user contested the closure of this move request at WP:RM#TR. To quote the contester:

The discussion, besides being too close to not relist anyway, did not once acknowledge that the article isn't about the 2020 law, but about the concept of the law. The 2024 law is fine to be at a year-disambiguated title, but moving this article was simply inaccurate and unnecessary.

I contested it as WP:WRONGVENUE, but an explanation of the close would be helpful. NasssaNser 01:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NasssaNser, thanks for bringing this to my attention.
The discussion indicated that the article title is ambiguous, therefore a consensus to move.
@Kingsif, aside from the move discussion, responding to your comment directly, if it is the concept of the law, the 2020 article would have been restructured, i.e. removing much of the analysis/reactions sections (into another [new] article, maybe?), and as well as adding the new laws introduced in the 2024 law. There is an infographics in the 2024 article which would gel well into a concept article.
I am assuming that you would like to have a concept article at the base title? If so, I am with you on this, especially after processing the moves of the 2020 law article and related pages. It is set up as a set index page for expediency as I and other editors were processing through the page links. If there's no one else expanding in the next few weeks into a broad concept article, I am inclined to do so. – robertsky (talk) 03:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to NasssaNser for moving this, and robertsky for replying. The 2020 article was originally the concept article, hence I was confused by the move - but I'm in agreement with your notes about extra detail, of course the 2024 developments, etc, and how separate articles for the 2020 and 2024 legislation would be beneficial. For the purposes of preserving history, I thought (think) that moving the concept article to a specific title would be a bit unhelpful. The 1992 through 2003 history is probably not lengthy enough to warrant separate articles from the concept page. I wouldn't know where to have a discussion on the what content where, though. Kingsif (talk) 21:24, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kingsif let's see what I can do in the next few weeks. It may be end up be copying the bits and pieces from the various existing articles to form up the broad concept page. – robertsky (talk) 10:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


I have written article for wikipedia and hopefully get it published. It has over 103 citations. Since you're an experienced editor. I want you to have look at at it Draft:Islam Mamedov

thank you in advance Harris Zaindi (talk) 02:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Aziziydev (13:01, 19 April 2024)[edit]

How can I create an article in Uzbek? --Aziziydev (talk) 13:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aziziydev: There are different languages which Wikipedia supports as projects. This one that you are currently reading is for the English Wikipedia. While we welcome new articles here, the content should largely be in English. For articles written in other languages such as Uzbek, you are strongly encouraged to proceed to the relevant sister project, i.e. Uzbek Wikipedia and contribute there. Do note that each sister project has its own guidelines, policies, and community norms. As such, do direct your queries to the Wikipedia:Teahouse there where established editors may be able to answer your queries. – robertsky (talk) 13:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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How do I copyedit? --ZRE32 (talk) 21:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Portal:African cinema/Selected film/48[edit]

Hello, Robertsky,

I saw your edit summary on an edit on this page. I was kind of taken aback. A year or so ago, an editor created over 100 draft pages regarding this Portal, I can safely say they were all deleted via CSD G13. Without some strong assurance that this Portal is going to be finished and all of these blank pages filled with articles, I don't think any admin, even the nice ones at WP:REFUND will want to take the considerable time to restore all of these mass-produced pages. I think it would be better for them to start from scratch to prove that this version of the Portal won't also be abandoned in a couple of months. Liz Read! Talk! 05:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz I wasn't aware of the CSD and subsequent refund. Before moving the pages to the portal namespace per requested at RMTR, I did a cursory look at the recent editing history of the primary page and also found that it was filled up with content. I share your concerns on the potential abandonment of the portal. The editathon is scheduled for 18 May to 1 June, which is not too far off. I am willing to wait to see if there are editing activity on the portal pages post editathon for a couple of months. if there aren't much significant activities, maybe a MfD may be in order then. Let me know if you have any other ideas on how to deal with this. – robertsky (talk) 10:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Robertsky,
Oh, I didn't mean that you had done anything wrong. No, I'm more concerned that editors at this editathon will want to get all of these deleted "Draft:Portal African cinema/" pages restored. But they might not even have a list of the deleted pages and REFUND won't restore a page unless you have the exact page title. Of course, the page creator did receive Firefly Bot messages when these pages were up for CSD G13 deletion posted on their User talk page but I'm not sure if it is even the same editors who will want to restore these draft Portal pages. There were a few pages like this one that were not deleted as they contained content but most of these pages were blank or just had an Article Wizard-like template on the page.
Now that I think about it though, if they do want these pages restored, it won't involve requests at RM so much as at REFUND and the deleting admin's User talk page so you are likely not going to be involved. But it's good to hear about the fact that this editathon is coming up. I might reach out to the editor who posted at RM to see what their plans are. Thanks for the thoughtful response. Liz Read! Talk! 22:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I just went back and reread your edit summary where you write "We need help with mass moving subpages" so maybe there were copies kept in User space and you will be involved. I need to think before I respond! Liz Read! Talk! 22:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Cameronmcdonalds on London Buses route 97 (22:13, 27 April 2024)[edit]

how do i add photo from photo gallery --Cameronmcdonalds (talk) 22:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


story · music · places

Thank you for posting RD articles. Would you please also give credits? - If you click on places: images of a flock of sheep that I met by chance on the 300th birthday of cantata Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104 -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt, yeah. I was distracted by... lunch. – robertsky (talk) 07:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
no problem, and we even managed the same day ;) - thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]