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are amish neo tribal? 210.9.15.116
It would be cool if the references on Jean-Jacques Rousseau and William Kingdon Clifford could actually be cited properly because niether one of those wiki-linked bios thows any light on specifically how their social philosophies are "Neo-Tribalist". I understand how Rousseau's social contracts were designed as compromises with modern-society (ie. they were not designed to further the progress of modern sovereignty, but instead to protect man from its progress, at least the violent progress of sovereignty that Hobbes envisioned). But I know nothing of what Clifford has to say on this and his wiki bio mentions little also. If indeed "Neo-Tribalism" is rooted with Rousseau and Clifford it would be great to provide that information that connects them, thanks. User:Hypomnemata 12:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Mjk2357 02:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I've proposed merging New tribalists here. New tribalists mostly repeats information in this article, albeit without much clarity, and without much beyond what exists here. Jd2718 21:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't agree. New tribalists appear more radical whereas Neo tribalism appears more moderate or at least seems to present the opportunity for moderation. Just as those who engage in democratic politics may hold different positions or stances (e.g. liberal democratic, compassionate conservative, neo-conservative, etc) this notion of 'modern tribalism' too appears to contain differing positions, attitudes and strands of belief and action that deserve differentiation in order to maintain each position's integrity. Gaiaeve (talk) 00:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, there. Just wanted to say that I think this article is very well written. Unfortunately, it doesn't read like secondary research, and has few references. See Wikipedia:No original research. I have marked areas where I think there are problems. --AlastairIrvine (talk) 07:24, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I have had to remove large portions of text as Gibberish, This is about the Socialogical subject of Neotribalism, New Tribalist is a movement that hold tribalism as the most natural form of human cultural evolution. We must seperate the two. Weaponbb7 (talk) 04:24, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Would you mind expalining what the difference is please? Munci (talk) 23:54, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
One is a veiw that humans are tribalism as the most natural form of government. One is the sociological theory that human in close proximity form close social groups (think of high school cliques and Frat brother)
It is easy to make the mistake "hey we have set our intetional community in tribal pattern. Neo Means usually used in a way old customs as if recreating that culture thus we are Neo-tribal." people are using the "neo" in NEo-tribal the same way we use "neo" in "neo druidism." When really they are quite seperate Weaponbb7 (talk) 01:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC) It seems to me that you have missed out the word "form" i.e. that you meant to say "humans in close proximity form close social groups". If so, I understand the difference now. Thank you for explaining it to me.Munci (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
This article has a "postmodernity" box on it, but I tend to think of postmodernity as associated with the left in general, while I think of neotribalism as associated with the right, with various resurgences in identity/nationality politics, like national anarchism. Is that a totally wrong impression? Or is there something to explain here? --Delirium (talk) 10:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Neo-Tribalist is a theory/concept in sociology and anthropology that has nothing to do with any type of social movement about restoring tribal society. Neo-tribalism does not mean anything like the Prefix "neo" would be used in "Neo-Nazi" or "Neo-Druid" i will keep removing this stuff until i see a RS that uses it in the context Weaponbb7 (talk) 23:10, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Seems someone took this article to insert an advertisment that is not encyclopedic in my opinion, it doesn't help explain the concept. Example, under "Aesthetics" this heading is not only biased, it doesn't help explain how it relates beyond furniture. See this with no quotes "In Theory of the Forms, Plato states “Beauty” transcends the world of sense experience”, which means that the experience of beauty is unlike what we would today describe as the aesthetic experience. Beauty and ritual both transport the person to another place and/or time. My art deals with the role of being a “guide” for modern culture, myself, I am a medium for spirit to pass through. My work is to be seen as a rite of passage from past to present. My use of ancient Sumerian Cuneiform in my photography is to show that prior to current times, ancient and primitive art, was created by the tribal shamansor master artists skilled in symbols, materials and sacred (fetish) items". - Johnny Bailik 2012." RupJana (talk) 00:52, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
It's just a hodgepodge of quotations with no analysis or theory whatsoever. Entirely unencyclopedic and, as RupJana noted, it smacks very much of advertisement.CharlesMartel (talk) 00:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)CharlesMartel
I agree with CharlesMartel, it should be removed. As of now, it contains a singular link to an artist's website, whose purported work exploring neotribalism seems to have no connection with the sociological term.Freshdried (talk) 20:37, 20 November 2014 (UTC)