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It says that the movie only has 4 frames, but when I download it, it even has 18 frames. It still lasts for about 2 seconds. How come?
My thoughts would be that the film was converted to MOV, meaning counting the space in between the frames.
As this film seems to be in the public domain due to its age, would it be possible to upload a copy to Wikipedia after having converted the file to Ogg Theora format? Andrew (My talk) 00:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Since the self-man crew is French, the cast is half French-half English and the shooting location is in England, this film could be considered a French-English film in the infobox (country)? What do you think? :) Cliché Online 13:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
The .mov file version is 24.64fps, the modern fps which seems just too much for a prototype. It should be around 12fps instead, 12 are sufficient for animation and lower rate are not correctly animated. So it should be mentionned in the article that the link is actually a reconstruction of the original motion picture not a digitalisation of the original analog work. Cliché Online 14:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
The controversy is not about "Roundhay Garden Scene" and the '88 single-lens but about "Man Walking Around A Corner" supposedly shot with the '87 16-lens camera "The only 16-lens image apparently taken with this camera was probably made on a single glass plate and not on film, as described in the patent. No films made with this camera have been found.". A film was still in the camera's spooler when it was bring to the Science Museum by Miss Le Prince in 1940. Actually i haven't found any controversy about the '88 camera, and i've browsed all online English & French ressources. however i've noticed a mirror switching that was done on Roundhay Garden Scene, but not mentioned, see Louis Le Prince article. Cliché Online 14:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
"It features Adolphe Le Prince, Sarah Whitley, Joseph Whitley and Harriet Hartley walking around and laughing."
It hardly seems appropriate to refer to these people as "actors". Also, the heading "The missing reel" is an unencyclopedic embellishment. No missing reel is mentioned. TheMadBaron 20:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
"In 1930 the NMPFT produced..." Should this read "In 1930 the National Science Museum produced..."? The NMPFT (in Bradford) did not open untill 1983!
The location was the garden of Oakwood Grange in Roundhay, Leeds, West Yorkshire, England. Oakwood Grange was the home of Joseph and Sarah Whitley, the in-laws of Louis Le Prince. The house was around 175 feet wide (100 feet excluding out-buildings) and the garden about 800 feet long (500 feet excluding side-garden). The building no longer exists, but a cul-de-sac next to the site was named Oakwood Grange in memory of it.The ancient northern perimeter wall is still standing. The 1871 Roundhay census (schedule # 72) lists the Whitley and Le Prince families living in the Roundhay Cottage. 23 May 2008.
What was the plot? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.200.154.219 (talk) 22:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
"In memory of Sarah Robinson the beloved wife of Joseph Whitley died October 24th 1888 aged 72 years". 23 May 2008.
Obviously the original film wasn't a mere 2 seconds long. Do any records survive indicating its original length? 68.146.81.123 (talk) 01:05, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I think it could be very well possibly that the Origional Length and the Plotcould co-exist in one belief. It could be in my opinion that their used to be a plot when it was filmed (possibly people greeting each other and talking). It may of existed of as much as 30.0 secends. And could of included a simple plot. However being a realy old film only the first 2.11 secends were recoverd, the other film was "lost". By lost I mean maybe it was kept by te maker, Misplaced, given or sold away, or something else. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:42, 22 November 2012 by (Dan of knowledge (talk) 21:42, 24 January 2013 (UTC))
Most internet sources have Sarah Whitely having died ten days after the scene was shot, not the day after, as stated in the article. 109.151.217.188 (talk) 02:16, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
If the film was shot at 12fps, but is being shown at about 24fps, then could not someone more technically gifted than me create a version where every frame is shown twice? This would show it at the correct speed and make it last longer and hence easier to see. And if there are two surviving versions, then cannot the two versions be merged together unless all the frames are the same? 92.24.187.105 (talk) 23:23, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
The section "Remastered footage" mentions the "National Science Museum" (linking to Science Museum). Should this be renamed? The Science Museum in London has been known as "Science Museum" since 1893 (citation from that page), definitely before 1930 which is when they made the copies. Theoboyd (talk) 23:47, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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Is the duration of the film accurate? At this link https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/01/10/roundhay-garden-scene-is-believed-to-be-the-oldest-known-video-footage/, used as a reference for this article, it says that the copy at The National Science Museum lasts for 1.66 seconds, while the digital remastered version of produced by the National Media Museum lasts for 2.11. However, the former plays at the original frame rate, while the latter is a newer version, that plays at 24.64 frames/s. So, shouldn't the first one's duration be used, as it not a remastered version? I see that in the Spanish version of the article, as well as in the Portuguese one, they say the film lasts for 1.66 seconds, but in the French and the Chinese, it says 2.11. So what is the correct one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.61.103.134 (talk) 18:36, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Harriet Hartley has an article in the Portuguese WP: Harriet Hartley.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 06:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
I read this sentence in the article: "Sarah is seen walking – or dancing – backwards as she turns around, and Joseph's coat tails are seen flying as he also is turning." but according to the previous sentence, both were over 70 at the time. Personally, I think the couple on the right looks more like a 70 year old couple, and it would make more sense for the moving people to be the other people described (the videographer's son + another person), but I do not have a source to confirm this in any way. 173.3.32.90 (talk) 19:09, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
The phrase “borne out” is perfectly ordinary English, and has been for centuries. (See “bear out” in the Oxford English Dictionary.) I cannot imagine why it should be flagged. John W. Kennedy (talk) 18:20, 16 April 2022 (UTC)