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After allowing a full year for discussion on the relocation from Social psychology (psychology) (see Archive 4), I went ahead and made the change. Putting this material front and center on the social psychology page represents the majority approach to the discipline, but also preserves a separate article with a sociological approach on Social psychology (sociology). --Jcbutler (talk) 19:27, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
I see no consensus for this solution on that talk page. I strongly disagree with such a US-centric solution. In Europe, social psychology is primarily an area of sociology. The article on social psychology should address both the European (sociological) tradition and the American (psychological) one. The main article on psychological social psychology should be titled social psychology (psychology). Skaulan Jgen (talk) 01:58, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
I think it would be beneficial to mention the connection between social psychology and sociology. They are very much interconnected. LisaBlakeleySnyder (talk) 17:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
I also disagree with the disambiguation as is. I think that there should be a main Social Psychology page with a concise interaction to the whole set of research topics in the field, and a paragraph with more information on the different foci different research programmes have. The distinction in such as absolute terms as is now seems to me epistemologically wrong. For example, there are minority influence experiments, citing the classical Asch conformity studies, and dealing with sensory and perceptual effects of influence. Classifying those under Sociology because it says Minority on the package is simply wrong. I believe the encyclopedia article should discuss together the general area of social psychology, e.g. including both Attitudes (that are in 152.4 in Dewey, classified together with Emotions) and Minority Influence (Dewey 302, classified as Social Processes). Group Dynamics is an even better example, since several research programmes have addressed the field with tools including psychodynamic theory, naturalistic observation, experimental studies...
Moreover, I think that the disambiguation prompt is very paradigm specific: mind in society...
Ngyi1983 (talk) 16:21, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
According to the Wikipedia guidelines, a Class A article is "well-organized and essentially complete, having been reviewed by impartial reviewers from a WikiProject, like military history, or elsewhere." This article went through the peer review process (see archives), and was edited in response to that review. It is well referenced and organized, and has stayed quite stable in content for the past year, leading me to believe that it is essentially complete. I'm upgrading the status to Class A. If there are any reasons not to have this article be Class A, let's talk about them on this thread and make the improvements. Thanks to all of you who have worked on this article and maintained it over the years. --Jcbutler (talk) 19:27, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Should this article mention criticism of social psychology? There seems to be a lot to criticize, such as lack of consensus among researchers,[1] theories are almost never falsified, flaws in methology of studies, possible liberal bias[2][3], absence of foundation, hasty generalizations, focus on the negative aspects, contradictory theories and post hoc theorizing. There are books like The Rise and Fall of Social Psychology (for a quick review which summarizes the main points see [4]) and journal articles such as Towards a balanced social psychology that deal with these issues and can be used as reference material. --84.251.222.22 (talk) 16:47, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Many things mentioned in this criticism section reflect the foci of different research programmes. I think the best way to deal with this, in the context of a more comprehensive article describing and providing a general introduction to all psychological and sociological social psychology and group dynamics, is with argument inspiring paragraphs such as: Focus on Individual Processes or Social Situations, Qualitative or Quantitative Approach, or even Positivism or Hermeneutics, in order to accommodate critical discourse analytic social psychology. I would suggest cautiousness with the other criticisms: the statistics/methodological crisis is not specific to social psychology, or psychology in general. It also affect medicine, neuroscience and other fields. The liberal bias criticism is not very well substantiated (and how can one accommodate in a single mind the criticism that SP is conservative from critical discourse analysis, and that it is liberal, coming from 'skeptics'?). Thus, I think that such criticisms may belong to separate articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngyi1983 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I owe an explanation of why I downgraded the article. First of all, we can't use the A class: it's not used for Psychology articles and anyway an article can't qualify for A until it has been through Good Article review. I think the article at present is well-written, and it's great to see work being done on such a centrally important topic. Thanks to Jcbutler and the other recent contributors. However, the referencing seems very scant. The reader can get the impression (falsely, perhaps) that this is a personal essay rather than an encyclopedic summary. I haven't found anything that looks out of place or that I disagree with: like I say, it's good quality text. It's just a matter of making sure it's all referenced. Happy for it to remain at B-class for now. MartinPoulter (talk) 09:47, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
I also agree with you Martin. The quality of the content is great. There are a lot of supporting facts for each aspect of the topic of social psychology. However, I would have liked to see more cited references as well. My question is, how do we find the proper sources for what is already written? (Archiea1 (talk) 17:46, 8 February 2018 (UTC))
Hi all. It seems like this article is getting pretty bloated with social psychological content. My feeling is that the increasingly comprehensive social psychological topic summaries are starting to get in the way of providing a simple and understandable encyclopaedic explanation of what social psychology is. My suggestion would be to remove this content from this page and replace with a far more succinct list of topics covered (along with the existing history and research sections). This would also help avoid Wikipedia redundancy (e.g. keep perspectives on self-concept on the self-concept page). What are others thoughts? Cheers Andrew (talk) 04:09, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I am an undergraduate student, and was asked to explore social psychology articles to see what improvements could be made. Our class has joined the Wikipedia Initiative for Psychology, and by evaluating existing articles, we can become familiar with the information about social psychology that is already well covered online. As for this article, the "content bloating" was my exact thought when I first visited the page. For the "Social Psychology" head page, it makes sense to focus on the characteristics of the discipline as a whole, and simply list the topics covered within the discipline. Expanding the history section to discuss the development and origin of Social Psychology would expand on important information to cover on this page specifically. The current history section is rather brief and is lacking references to reliable sources. Elaborating on the included information, adding new information, and attaching valuable references would add to the quality of this initial page. In addition, the methods section can be expanded and personalized to the Social Psychology discipline. Focusing on a more general approach to explain the overarching principles of the discipline might help to eliminate the ever present redundancy, and allow more specified information to be added in individual sub-articles. Mtierney01 (talk) 18:24, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
A respondent to my request for peer review of Motivation crowding theory suggested that I ask for comments and article improvement ideas here. I am most interested in ideas for expansion. Please respond at Talk:Motivation crowding theory. Thank you! Selery (talk) 16:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I plan to clean up/add citations under the Social Cognition sub-heading. For example: Researchers have found that depressed individuals often lack this bias and actually have more realistic perceptions of reality. [citation needed][5] I am also interested in ideas for expansion. Plroseman (talk) 00:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I've done some cleanup of the article - quite a bit of it was making the references more consistent. I've tagged it with citation needed, clarify, etc tags where necessary. Allens (talk | contribs) 02:44, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, my name is Travis Freetly a senior psychology student at Clemson University working under Dr. Pilcher. For my senior laboratory I will be doing edits of psychology related articles. For the social psychology article my goals are to improve the validity by adding reliable citations to the article. Also, I plan to clean up some of the redundancy in this article, as well as add any quality information that I come across while finding reliable sources. This is my first time editing articles on wikipedia so any constructive criticism or advice would be appreciated. (Travis Freetly (talk) 15:08, 21 February 2013 (UTC))
To further the modification of this article, which I am editing as an educational assignment, I am in the process of adding supplemental information from my social psychology text book into the article. I am currently tinkering with the article in my sandbox, and hope to publish my edit to be reviewed in the next few weeks. Thank you for any help you can provide me.
Travis FreetlyHello! Today I uploaded some of my edited content onto the Social Psych page, additions to the attitudes, persuasion, history, and cognitive dissonance sections. I look forward to hearing feedback about the upload
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Currently, I do not think the article provides very comprehensive coverage of social psychology. I would like to propose the following sections, taken from numerous books that introduce social psychology:
I also think the intrapersonal versus interpersonal division should be abandoned. I do not think there is such a clear demarcation within social psychology. Thank you for your consideration. --1000Faces (talk) 17:13, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
I know the article already mentions persuasion. However, I think it could go into more depth about central and peripheral routes of persuasion. LisaBlakeleySnyder (talk) 17:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
I think there probably should be a section on the replication crisis which has particularly hit social psychology. The recent (as I write this) furor over a special edition of the journal "social psychology" on replication studies (many of which didn't replicate some core ideas) would be a good place to start. If I have time I may start something, but invite others to help. StoneProphet11 (talk) 12:58, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
In August 2015 the open science collaboration (based in the Center for Open Science) published a paper in Science (journal) [8] (the paper appears to be open access), in which they report the outcomes of 100 replications of different experiments from top Cognitive and Social Psychology journals. Depending on how they assessed replicabilityie I(e.g. ndependent p values or aggregate data (meta-analytic) or subjective) they report replicability of social psychology studies between 23% (JPSP P values) and 58% (PsychSci - Metaanalytic) and between 48% p value, JEP and 92% metaanalytic PsychSci for cognitive studies. The paper is (to my judgement) be very carefully constructed and very thorough. It is not easy to interpret these percentages by the way as there is hardly any data from other fields about replication success rates. The only indications come from cell biology (see the science paper) where they are talking about percentages as low as 11% to 25% (probably based on p value alone). If this is indicative for all sciences (but I would not hazard to do so) it appears that psychology is neither much worse, nor much better than most. But that would be my own original interpretation and hence not useful for Wikipedia.
I think we should construct a brief section on the outcomes of this programme / paper for this article. I will think about it - but it may take some time (busy) and should be done with due attention to nuance, anyone else is welcome to start it. Arnoutf (talk) 14:28, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
How come nobody talked about the Rich = Asshole experiment by Paul Piff 2011?
Hello social psychology editors, I was looking the article over today and see that there is a new addition in July, 2015 that : "This article is within the scope of WikiProject Seduction, an ongoing effort to improve the quality of, expand upon and create new articles relating to Seduction, Seduction literature, the Playboy (lifestyle)." Unlike social psychology, the Wikiproject focus is on only one particular kind of behavior (seduction) and a lifestyle (the playboy lifestyle). The Wikiproject is inactive. I would like the social psychology editors also to know that this Wikiproject is closely related to the seduction community, which is controversial, and one of it's main leaders characterized as misogynist and hateful to women by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[1] Among other complaints about the group is that it uses pseudo-science to forward it's claims [2][3][4][5] If the Wikiproject Seduction is attempting to falsely show alignment with Social Psychology, it would not be an appropriate and this link to the WikiProject should be severed. Cityside189 (talk) 15:46, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
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The second sentence begins "In this definition, the word scientific" but the first sentence, which gives us a definition of social psychology, does not use the word scientific. Vorbee (talk) 17:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Presently, the "History" section includes the assertion that Triplett's (1898) paper was the first to be published in this area. Stroebe (2012) identifies work published by Féré (1887), and Binet and Henri (1894) that precedes Triplett's by some years, so this claim seems to be incorrect.
Reference: Stroebe, W. (2012). The truth about Triplett (1898), but nobody seems to care. Perspectives on Psychological Science, 7(1), 54--57.
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