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What is this, a story you've written? If it's an article refering to something, please explain what and link to whatever's relevent. Wondering simply, Ifrog
The text that was erased seems to be the plot summary of the actual game.
I have plans for how I'd like to extend this article (or see it extended :). If anyone is interested in contributing, please contact me. - Fredrik J
The wrecked ship A long time ago cosmonauts belonging to an ancient civilisation crashed on Zebes. This is what remains of their spaceship.
This is not true. The Wrecked Ship is what remains of the pirate ship you blow up at the end of Metroid: Zero Mission. Note the graphics similaries and especially the room leading to the ship from Crateria. Similarly, lower Norfair in Super Metroid is Chozodia before you blow it up (it sinks into Norfair from the explosion). --Myria 19:15, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Pseudo Screw Attack/Charge Attack and Bomb Spread/Five-Bomb Drop The latter names are used by the official player's guide. The other names are what people keep changing them back to unexplainedly. Shall I change them back or forget about it? No use having an edit war over something that insignificant. QuasarTE
i would like to point out that since adam is in no way mentioned during the game, the body could not possibly be him. He should have been ordering her around all game. Playwrite 14:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
This portion of the plot needs to be rewritten. The text before this section gives a neutral description of how the player might progress through the game, while the Finale section breaks into narrative prose, as if the author is trying to adapt the game into a novel. This is inaccurate, considering that the story of Super Metroid is almost entirely told by the player's actions. --Poiuyt Man talk 05:00, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It says here that the Hyper Beam is about as powerful as a Super Missile. While it may be that the plain damage of the Hyper Beam is about the same as the Super Missile, it is clearly intended by the game to be much more powerful: Super Missiles don't scratch the mother brain, and the hyper beam defeats many bosses in one shot (perhaps because it penetrates and hits many times). It also destroys shutters that the Super Missiles have no effect on. I'll change it to say that the Hyper Beam is wastly more powerful than even a Super Missile if no one protests. Amaurea 04:40, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I don't think so... —the preceding unsigned comment is by 209.23.236.67 (talk • contribs)
Not only should it be in Wikipedia, but this is an article that has the potential to become a featured article worthy of the Main Page.
Hmmmm....you think we should put this up for peer review soon? --Niroht 16:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
This article is far too epic as it stands now. It is far away from being a featured article as it is now. I am tempted to try to rewrite the problematic sections (most of the article, really), but it is a bit daunting. Anyway, things like "As Samus dodges these attacks and continues to damage the creature, Mother Brain prepares its most devastating attack, closing its eye and drawing energy toward its brain." do not belong here. The article should not be this detailed - it should describe the game, not narrate it. Much of the current narrative is inaccurate because of the non-linearity of the game anyway. Amaurea 12:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Right, I can fix some of that! *marches off*Niroht 12:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the gameplay section should be extended, I haven't played the game and was hoping for more info, that's what wikipedia is all about 83.104.158.166 21:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I just removed a portion of the speed run section here, which claimed that it was easier to do a tool-assisted speed run than a normal one. This seems to be contested, since those speed runs are judged by a totally different standard ("why are you jumping 1 frame too late there?"), so I considered writing that it is easier to get good times this way, but such details really belong in the speed run article itself, so I removed it here. Amaurea 15:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
The link [[Speedrun|tool-assisted speedrun]] should, in my opinion, simply link to tool-assisted speedrun, which currently redirects to speedrun anyways. My thinking, at least, is that someday somebody might change that redirect to a stub or even a full article. What do you think? I did not want to change it again without discussing... - CorbinSimpson 15:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm hesitant to add them myself because they're technically glitches, and I suppose they have more to do with Speedrunning than playing through the actual game. Still, they can (and maybe should) be considered 'Special Abilities' since they can be executed consistantly, so some discussion is warranted. Just in case not everyone knows what they are:
Mock/Speed Ball (Mock Ball is before Speed Booster Upgrade, Speed Ball is after)
With this ability you can speed up the morphball form. To execute you would start running with enough room to jump and land without impedence. During the jump, you should hold down until Samus is just about to hit the ground. Just before you land, tap down again and this time slide your thumb from down to the direction you were running. This should cause Samus to enter Morph Ball form just before she hits the ground without bouncing when she lands. You should now be traveling at the same speed (or maybe slightly faster) in Morph Ball as you were before landing. ---Moch and Speed Ball are performed in the same way, but you gain substantially more speed with Speed Ball, as well as the blue 'echoes' of Samus that are created when she accelerates with the Speed Boosters. --Epix998 07:14, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Mockball should be in there somewhere. - Corbin ∫ 1 ɱ p s ɔ ♫ Rock on, dude! 15:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I just realized....are you sure it isn't "mach ball" instead of moch ball?--Niroht 15:31, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I learned it as Speed Ball and Mockball. ("Mock" Speed Ball; it doesn't use the Speed Booster.) - Corbin ∫ 1 ɱ p s ɔ ♫ Rock on, dude! 19:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I meant Mock Ball, no idea where the H came from in my spelling, but it's all fixed now. As for putting it under a Glitches heading, I like that best of the options you mentoined, but that would take some doing...wouldn't want to create a new heading without having at least a somewhat comprehensive list. --Epix998 05:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget the Murder beam, the Speed booster Quick charge, Gravity Jump, and the blue suit. There's also a "Shoulder pump" glitch that allows you to move up to 10% faster by rapidly pressing the L or R button rapidly. Chris37599 23:40, 29 December 2006
You might put it in under speedrunning...--Niroht 18:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
After the Super Metroid grabs Samus, it seems to remember her. Does it transfer one of Mother Brain's attacks to her beam? --Tekkin58Talk to me here 11:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I think since the removal of the detailed story line, this article has become an ugly mess. It's just a bunch of lists, and the lists are at the top, beneath information people might actually be interested in if they don't actually know anything about the game. Unless someone objects, I'm going to change the order of the sections at least, and possibly make some other changes.--QuasarTE 00:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is NOT a game guide. This means that highly detailed strategies, tips, controller moves, etc. are not on-topic in an article about a game. I have removed a ton of such quips in my recent massive revision to trim this article down to an acceptable size and flow. Please do not thoughtlessly readd this sort of information, because it's not appropriate.
Also inappropriate is a step-by-step walkthrough of gameplay, especially for this game, which is by its very nature highly nonlinear. It's useless to talk about what order bosses are defeated in, items are collected in, or what items are "optional" (nearly all are). If a player is sufficiently skilled, for example, Phantoon can be defeated before Kraid.
I was the original author of the Story section of the article, and even I admit it is too long. I have trimmed it back down greatly, even removing some of my original material in the process, and I think it is still messed up. There are too many pictures in that section, so one or more of them may need to be moved down.
If we want this article to be an A-quality game article, it's going to have to be more focused and less jumbled up. --QuasarTE 09:16, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
You make a good point, but much of that material has been added gradually by other people. I personally think there's a very strong argument that the MB's weapon is the Hyperbeam due to the way the exact same phasing palette is applied to both MB and Samus when they use the weapon, but that's ultimately what you could call fan conjecture or original research at any rate. I encourage other people to help tune this article, but not by simply cutting out huge chunks of it as has been done before. I think the section balance is pretty good right now.--QuasarTE 18:32, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
See my newest edit to the weapon section. I believe it is a vast improvement, although this approach may not work with all the sections.--QuasarTE 17:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Super Metroid never uses the name "Shinespark" anywhere, so why do people insist on trying to prove it was known as the Shinespark in this game? I never heard this word in my life until after the release of Metroid Fusion. If somebody wants to produce a authoritative citable source that uses Shinespark that was contemporary to the release of Super Metroid, knock yourself out. Otherwise it doesn't belong here aside from a mention about how it has been renamed later.--QuasarTE 17:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
i myself and all the people i know of have never called or even heard it called that we always called it the spineshank. it also sounds alot better.
It started being called "Shinespark" after someone noticed it's likeness to a Getter G (Getter Robo) finishing move of the same name. Speed running communities popularized the term. When it appeared in Fusion people mostly took it as the localization staff accepting the term into Officiality. Now, any real connection between the Getter finisher and the move in question is still unproven and must be considered coincidental until proven otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.127.8.149 (talk) 09:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
The gameplay section should be prosified, and the story section looks quite good. Also, it might be a good idea to find some development and reception/criticism information. I'll give the article a copyedit once you guys are ready to go to PR/FA. — Deckiller 18:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I recommend putting all that gameplay information into paragraph forms. Samus' items can get a paragraph, the locations a paragraph, and so on. That way, they aren't lists. — Deckiller 04:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
If you play the game and actually count your shots, Super Missiles do three times the damage of regular Missiles. Metroids have a special weakness modifier that makes Super Missiles do five missiles worth of damage instead of three. Please stop changing the article to say that Super Missiles do 5x damage! The makuta 22:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Would it be redundant to add a spoiler warning to the section of the plot summary which deals with everything past the explanation of the four bosses? I realize that it is in the plot section, but the realization of the larva and super metroids being the same, as well as the entire final battle and the ending afterwards are both things I would consider to be spoilers. and personally would not want to go without warning. Then again, maybe I shouldn't, which is why I'm asking.
I've removed the link to the Metroid Classic website because it appears to have pretty much no content at all. Matt489Talk 21:24, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
The section currently titled "pushing the limits" seems a bit.....way too long and detailed for me. As far as I can tell, the majority of the info in that section would only be relevant to speedrunners and glitch fanatics who will recognize the technical terms. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to compress it without having speedrun fanboys trying to disembowel me? --Niroht 21:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
There is no link given to prove that this game is coming to the Wii Virtual Console. And further-more it has not ben rated by the ESRB, (which has been known to happen months before the game's availability for download). And since it is already April, the "early 2007" estimate seems at best wishful thinking. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.206.113.198 (talk) 08:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC).
That Super Metroid has been released on the wii virtual console is fact, but I don't believe it is significant enough to warrant its inclusion in an encyclopedia entry. That sort of information is best found on IGN or some other gaming site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.221.254 (talk) 19:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of June 3, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:
When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you for your work so far. — igordebraga ≠ 01:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
It has come to my attention that someone aliased Drewseph, through the use of hacking the ROM and extensive coding, has released an "extended" version of the game just last year, with a larger map and more in-game cinematic-type sequences as seen towards the end of the game. Is this significant enough to warrant another section in the article, as it represents the still-continuing fanbase? Or is it too technical/irrelevant? J-Rod 15:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Well,there has now been a confirmation that not only Super Metroid is coming soon but also Metroid on the Virtual Console,I figured we should put this up because the current statement doesn't have a source.I just don't have time to put it up so here's the source:
http://gonintendo.com/?p=22584#respondXLS724 22:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Has anyone heard of a fully 3d remake of this game? I was told in passing by a co-worker, but can not seem to find anything to back this up. 63.85.53.130 (talk) 16:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)