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@Kellymoat: All prices that are mentioned in "Ticket sales" section are average price from secondary marketaccording to Forbes. That not the price from the tour's official organizer. We should put the term "secondary market" in front of information about these price in order to avoid misunderstanding from readers? — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 12:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not reading it that way. The Forbes article doesn't say that the entire article is about the secondary market prices. It said that tickets were selling out, but some remained on the secondary market. Kellymoat (talk) 13:16, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Kellymoat:The entire article doesn't say but the main purpose of this article is focusing on Taylor Swift's average price on secondary market and ticket reseller site. You think $380 is Swift's average original price in US, don't you? That is price on TiqIQ. Can you double check some Forbes article about Taylor Swift's price in [1], [2], [3]? You'll see the average price always change. — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 07:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen $1000 ticket prices directly from venues (and/or LiveNation) for less popular shows. Why would I not expect a $380 average ticket price for something as in-demand as a Taylor Swift. Kellymoat (talk) 10:32, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Admittedly, I haven't gone to your references yet. But, I can totally see average prices being that high. For example, Enrique and Pitbull, at Madison Square Garden, ticket prices direct from the venue or LiveNation are $79-815. Coldplay in Miami range from $64 to $824. Why would we not expect Taylor Swift to average at $380? Kellymoat (talk) 12:25, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just check the Billboard Boxscore data, or you can divide the tour's total gross by the tour's total tickets and see the original average price. US$250,733,097 / 2,278,647 = US$110.0359542 per ticket. Again, the average price at US$380 is from TiqIQ - a secondary ticket market. Do you still think it is the tour's original price.—Phamthuathienvan (talk) 13:03, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I paid $750 each directly to TicketMaster... and that wasn't even on the floor! If you wanted to be on the floor (in Charlotte, NC) it was going to be $1500 each. My wife is still pissed I spent that kind of money on T-Swift tickets. Eric Cable ! Talk 13:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
How can you say that prices can't be that high. I just showed you prices over $800 for current shows. Shows that are nowhere near as in-demand as Taylor Swift, particularly in the 1989-era. Kellymoat (talk) 13:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Kellymoat: See the seating map for the Charlotte show that Eric Cable attended, Taylor Swift ticket just range from 39.50 to 129.50 US dollar. I actually know Taylor is so popular in the 1989-era but the thing I try to let you know that the US$380 IS NOT the original average price of her show. That price is from TiqIQ - an secondary ticket market or ticket resale site according to Forbes. And I want to put the term "secondary market" to help readers avoid misunderstanding. Have you checked the Billboard Boxscore chart that I gave you the link??
I am the one who contributed this "Ticket sales" section. I used to think the US$380 price as well as all another price I put here were the Taylor Swift's original price because I did not care about the word "secondary market" that the Forbes author always mentioned in every his report about Swift price.
What do you mean with VIP Package? I know VIP Packages cost the highest price among all category but I am talking about standard price. Standard ticket price often sell out quickly, and some touts resale them with unthinkable price on secondary market.—Phamthuathienvan (talk) 15:10, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Pre-sales for European shows started on November 4, public on-sale for this leg started on November 7, tickets for London was sold later on November 10. First round of pre-sales on select North American shows start on November 7 and general sales for fans in North America started from November 14, 2014; Australia started from December 12, 2014; Japan started from December 13, 2014; Singapore and Shanghai started from June 30, 2015. Swift was the sixth most-searched artist on Ticketmaster in 2014.[1]
Sellout status occurred in many cities when general sales for the tour started. Swift announced 9 extra dates as well as the new show in Houston for North American leg. Los Angeles had the most extra dates with 3 shows at Staples Center, cities which had one extra date were East Rutherford, Chicago, Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, St. Paul, Santa Clara. In St. Louis, Swift was originally performing on October 13 and 14, 2015, but after to adding Houston to the schedule, St. Louis shows downsize from two to one and she would play in this city only on September 28, 2015 and tickets go on sale at 10 am on January 30, 2015.[2] However, tickets for St. Louis show was sold out within minutes, this resulted in a second date being added there on September 29 at the same venue.[3] Swift also added more dates to European leg due to vast popularity, one for Cologne and one for Dublin.[4] In Dublin, tickets for both concert sold out within 55 minutes although the second show was just added after 6 minutes when the first show was sold out.[5]
In Australia, over 30,000 tickets for the first show (December 11, 2015) in Melbourne was sold out less than an hour.[6] Soon after, Swift announced 2 extra dates for this leg, one for Melbourne and one for Adelaide.[7] Due to popular demand, in July 2015, Swift added the third show for Melbourne after 2 first shows were sold out and became the first female artist to play 3 shows at AAMI Park.[8]
In January 2015, Forbes reported that The 1989 World Tour was one of the most expensive concert tours of 2015 on secondary market, just behind Fleetwood Mac's On with the Show and Maroon 5's V Tour.[9] In the US, the average ticket price was $380 according to TiqIQ, and the cheapest date was the show at the Fargodome on October 12, where the average ticket price was $182.95 with a get-in of $79.[10] The show on June 29, 2015 in Dublin was the most expensive European date, where the average ticket price was $285, with a get-in price of $198.[11] The Sydney show has the cheapest get-in price for Taylor Swift tickets in Australia at $130 Australian ($100 USD). The most expensive show is the final concert in Melbourne – Saturday, December 12, 2015 – with a get-in price of $249 Australian ($193 USD). In total, The Red Tour tickets averaged $176 across all tour stops, whereas the 1989 World Tour averaged at about $392 per concert, a 123% increase. Tickets for the 1989 World Tour were the most expensive ever for Taylor Swift.[10]
— Phamthuathienvan (talk) 07:36, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I paid $750 each directly to TicketMaster... and that wasn't even on the floor! If you wanted to be on the floor (in Charlotte, NC) it was going to be $1500 each. My wife is still pissed I spent that kind of money on T-Swift tickets. Eric Cable ! Talk 13:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. Directly from Ticket master in the first minutes they were on sale. Confirmed with people sitting around me they had all paid about the same amount. Eric Cable ! Talk 13:55, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Looks good. The rest of her tour articles would also benefit from updating. On some other tour articles, I wonder if the "legs" are actually identified as such by reliable sources. It doesn't seem like a date or two in the UK squeezed into the middle of a bunch of American dates really constitutes a "European leg". —Ojorojo (talk) 16:23, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]