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The following is referenced in a footnote in the "Biography of the Alter Rebbe" published by Kehot and reportedly edited by the Lubavitcher Rebbe himself to explain why Chassidim callng their Rebbes by the name of G-d is not against Torah teachings or Jewish tradition as is claimed by Avigdor in the accusation against the Alter Rebbe: ואין לתמוה אם ניצוץ מהארת שכינה, נקרא בשם שכינה
There is no need to wonder at a spark of the radiance of the Shechinah being referred to (in Tzavaat HaRivash) as Shechinah.
דהא אשכחן שאפילו מלאך נברא נקרא בשם ה׳, בפרשת וירא, לפירוש הרמב״ן
For we find that even a created angel, which is not a spark of the Shechinah, is referred to by G‑d’s Name in Parshat VaYeira, in the verse,59 “And he said, ‘Lord, do not pass by your servant,” according to the commentary of R. Moses Nachmanides (the Ramban);
וכמו שכתוב: ותקרא שם ה׳ הדובר אליה וכו׳, וכהאי גוונא טובא
and as it is likewise written,60 “And [Hagar] called the name of G‑d Who spoke to her...,” where we are explicitly told that we are speaking of an angel; and many more [passages] like this.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article.asp?AID=7970 Ariel Sokolovsky 16:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Because of my background and education is chabad oriented, this page may contain statements and views which others may disagree with, if anyone feels that I have written only from chabad's viewpoint and not a general viewpoint, either leave me a message on my talk page and I will try to find a non chabad source for it, or write the other viewpoints yourself in a NPOV way. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 07:53, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
How are they different? --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 05:01, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
The section already starts off with saying that this is according to those that follow kabbalah. Additionaly the statements from the people about chabad would remain applicable even after the section is removed. Furthermore the intention isn't to comepletely remove it, rather the intention is to replace it with a sentence saying that there has been controversy regarding this subject which is elaborated at length in the Tzadik article, and as I explained on the talk page of chabad it is unfair to have just that paragraph without a full background which is able to be put in the Tzadik article but would be too long for the chabad article. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 06:43, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Previous versions of this article violated Wikipedia's NPOV policy. Until my recent edits, this article only presented the Chabad (Lubavitch) point-of-view. It presented quotes from various eras of Jewish history out of order, out of their historical context, and interspersed with quotes from the Tanya and the Luabvitcher rebbes. This is done in order to convince the reader that the Jewish view of a tzadik is the Chabad view. It totally fails to mention non-Chabad Hasidic views of a tzadik.
When I merely separated Chabad quotes from non-Chabad quotes, all my edits were reverted without comment or discussion. When I tried to present other points of view, all of my edites were reverted without comment or discussion. That's not right.
A contributor even deleted sections that allowed us to mention non-Chabad Hasidic views of a tzadik, such as Modern Orthodox views, non-Orthodox views, and views of Hasidim outside of Chabad. We should not use Wikipedia to push the religious teachings of one group. This is a classic example of POV violation.
Any discussion of this topic should include a historical context. Despite what Chabad adherents might say, the views of rabbis in the Talmud are not identical to the views of Chabad. (The only people who hold this are Chabad hasidim themselves.) Instead, we should present the discussions of a tazdik in the early classic rabbinic literature, such as the Mishna, Tosefta, and the two Talmuds (Bavli and Yerushalmi.) We can then discuss how the concept of a tzadik exists in Kabbalistic literature. We can then examine the range of views about this subject in various Jewish groups: Non-Hasidic Haredim, Chabad Hasidim, non-Chabad Hasidim, Modern Orthodox, and non-Orthodox.
Of course, the article can state something like "According to adherents of Chabad Judaism, the Tanya and the Lubavitcher rebbe provide the correct interpretation of Judaism's view on this issue." We can fully discuss and illustrate their views. Yet our NPOV policy demands that we also discuss the views of multiple Jewish groups. Until recently, this article's self-styled protectors deleted all mention of non-Chabad points of views. We need to be on guard for this. RK 15:48, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
The additions that were made by RK are unsourced. If he wants to say that Reform Jews reject the concept of the Tzadik, he is welcome to do so if he brings sources. Either way it should be in the top of the article not the bottom. The other additions about other Hasidim, should be brought if they can be sourced, otherwise they cannot be brought. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 12:07, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I will keep repeating what I have been stating before that your additions must be sourced, that is all that I am asking. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 12:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
As proof that previous versions of this article were biased and inaccurate, please compare the previous versions to this peer-reviewed article. I am attaching here the complete article on Tzadik from the reknowned Encyclopedia Judaica, Keter Publishing. Please note that the text is copyrighted. RK 16:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
"However, Judaism does not believe in the Tzadik being like God." I deleted this since it is POV (prommotes Rambam's POV over other Rishonim, contradicts Chassidic and Sefardic and Kabbalistic teachings on the subject ) and directly contradicts the tone of the whole article. This could be changed to "ultra rationalist fundmentalist Mimonidean strain of Judaism does not believe in the Tzadik being like God" in that case this would make some sense. Actually I just changed it to "Ultra-rationalist fundmentalist Mimonedian strains of Judaism does not believe in the Tzadik being like God however this opposition to anthropomorphism could have been influenced by the Muslim rationalist philosophy popular at that time."
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.236.223.101 (talk) 05:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC).
not G-d but "like G-d" Ariel Sokolovsky 16:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Do Jews have any notion of what in means to be a saint within their own religion, other than just among nations ? I am asking this because of the uproar noticed during the Pius XII beatification process, where many Jews felt that he was not a saint, and some later responded that Jews were wannabe Roman Catholics. ADM (talk) (talk) 18:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
The page should have a section explicitly discussing the significance of the tzadik in hasidism, not in terms of his religious significance, but his social as well; how he functions as leader of the community, counselor, etc.Flygongengar (talk) 08:37, 23 December 2010 (UTC)