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Need to add spelling in Tamil, Kannada, Telugu, and Malayalam. Badagnani (talk) 05:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Viruthams have existed for thousands of years, like slokams. They're like a raga alapana, but are lyrical by nature. Some Tevarams are sung as Viruthams, as are certain other forms...such as Ugabhoga. Ugabhogas are devotional by nature, much like the other forms, so it doesn't even belong in the CM article. Purandaradasar did NOT introduce the Ughabhoga - it was introduced by the Haridasa movement. The concept of virutham wasn't introduced by Papanasam Sivan - it existed thousands of years ago. Papanasam Sivan merely composed more, much like composers prior to his existence, including Gopalakrishna Bharathi, Muthu Thandavar and Arunachala Kavi. Factual errors need to be removed in due course, as the citations given are not reliable to make such statements, and the website provided as a source doesn't even state what has been stated int his article, so as such is a misrepresentation and synthesis of material. And btw, Ughabhogas are NOT integral to a concert. In fact, you can handpick which concerts actually have had ughabhogas sung in them. Ncmvocalist (talk) 07:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
NO ERRORS: Before Sri Purandara Daasa (Sri PD) founded CM all know that there were free style singing such as slokas etc in all Indian languages. What Sri PD did with innovativeness was to incorporate it scientifically into a Krithi of CM with raga format. It is known among music scholars as Ugabhoga. Sri PD is the leading innovator/composer/writer of Haridasa movement. Credit goes to Sri Papanasam Sivan for make it popular in Tamil Language for current day CM. Again there is no need to dilute the article with pre-historical information. Let us keep this article focused and lead readers to accurate information. All references quoted are relevant and web sites are authentic. For one who did not attend a CM concert with Ugabogha is requested to watch concerts posted on web and listen to CD by many artists to learn that Ugabhoga is a part of CM.Naadapriya (talk) 16:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
It is known among scholars as Virutham, which has a tradition that is much older than when created by Purandaradasar. And btw, Ughabhoga is not a krithi. Papanasam Sivan did not make it popular in Tamil language - it was already made popular well before hand by Gopalakrishna Bharathi and other composers I've mentioned abvoe. The misrepresentations will be corrected in due course. I have enough concert lists by prominent artists to confirm the fact that most of the information provided her is POV. Also, referencing does not meet RS requirements. Ncmvocalist (talk) 05:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to Badagnani, KNM, Sarvagnya and Utcursch for making this article (important for Carnatic Music) read lot better in such a short time. Naadapriya (talk) 08:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks also to Dineshkannambadi who directed to an important reference during discussions.Naadapriya (talk) 16:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
If it's a kriti (composition), how can it be "freestyle" or "free style"? In English, "freestyle" usually means "improvised." Can this be clarified so that there is no ambiguity in the article? Badagnani (talk) 06:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
In recent edits important citation based on a reputed newspaper, Hindu [1] is deleted by User:Ncmvocalist without discussions. Naadapriya (talk) 08:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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