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who put half-man half-season? u think your funny? pls add height and weight (in metric besides british) What is this stuff about "Wallabies" and scoring 3 points on April 15, 2005? --Benl47 10:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC) I realized the page has been vandalized by some douche, so I tried to revert a few bits back to normal. --Benl47 11:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC) Objectivity please, this is not a press release nor a rumor mill, it's an encyclopedia.
If I'm not mistaken, "le dunk de la mort" is actually a generic term the French basketball aficionados would affix on any impressive dunk they see fit--kind of how on ESPN one anchor might go "ooooh that's one ba-zoo-ka dunk" or something to that effect, which doesn't render it _the_ bazooka dunk. I have removed this reference and someone added it back, rather than get into a stupid edit war, for the moment I want to ask does anyone preferably with familiarity in French basketball (I speak French, but certainly don't follow their basketball broadcasts) possess any further insights on the origins of the term. I think the generic-ness of the term is easily veriable, if one just go to Yahoo France and search on "dunk de la mort", many pages will come up and vast majority would have nothing to do with the Carter dunk. Tendancer 00:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC) New Name For "le dunk de la mort —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.172.50 (talk) 09:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC) Why don't we all just rename it 'French Toast' I read it somewhere and it sounds alot better.
Could we also add some information about his college play? He went to UNC and how he fared there is of interest to most people. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.142.2.138 (talk) 20:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC).
Carter played college basketball at North Carolina under Dean Smith and later, Bill Guthridge. During the 1997-1998 season, he was a member of new coach Bill Guthridge's successful "Six Starters" rotation with Antawn Jamison, Shammond Williams, Ed Cota, Ademola Okulaja and Makhtar N'Diaye. That season (his final college season), he averaged 15.6 points and 5.1 rebounds per game to go along with career averages of 12.3 points and 4.5 rebounds per game. [1] Carter also became a pioneer of the internet during his collegiate career. In 1995, Vince Carter become the second collegiate athlete (after Shammond Williams) to have a website dedicated to him on the World Wide Web. The website was developed by Seth Fleishman, and an archive of "Vince's Court" is still available for viewing. 18:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC) UNC Fan [2]
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Just noticed that someone has VANDALIZED this bio. Went to edit the inflammatory bits out, but could not. Maybe somebody else can restore it to dignity. (brackman@verizon.net) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.98.255.213 (talk) 15:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC). Added info on the new statue in Daytona, just unveilled. 67.35.172.19 00:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC) I believe it was vandlalized because Carter is a crybaby jackass who has seen a major decline in popularity since leaving Toronto (just look at All-Star vote tallies for before and after he left the Raptors).159.33.10.92 17:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)Steve159.33.10.92 17:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC) He is on Magic now
Vince doesn't play forward anymore he's started only 1 game there this year and about 3 last year. He is pretty much a full shooting guard. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RandyRhoadsRonnieDio (talk • contribs)blp=yes.
If we're going with positions he plays but doesn't start at than I'll add point guard because Frank does run line ups without Williams or Kidd and carter often handles the ball up the court and sets up his teammates. That also does not contradict the guard-forward position. Since someone changed it to shooting guard/small forward I figured I'd add point guard because he plays that as often as small forward.
This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a cheerleading section. If I make a contribution that one of Vince's nicknames is "Wince Carter", it's a matter of fact, not opinion, and shouldn't be obscured or hidden just because you like Vince. Do a search on the internet for "wince carter" and see how many hits come up, see how any people know the name, and use the name (and not just Raptor fans, either). Given the comments above and another user's description of Vince as a "crybaby jackass", the relatively benign "Wince" is generous.
But, some of you Carter fans refuse to face reality and allow the article to reflect the reality you are refusing. Unfortunately, wikipedia will suffer and never be as authentic and respected a source of information as long as self-appointed apologists lurk around and reverse legitimate contributions just because the contributions may not reflect their biased subjective positions.
Reverse the edits all you like, the truth is still out there to be found:
This is what he appears not to understand - having game, having natural talent, isn't good enough. Attitude, commitment, work ethic, these are issues that matter at his level. If he ever learns this, surely fans wil embrace him as they have other troubled characters like AI or Rasheed Wallace. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.116.215.206 (talk) 20:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC).
You can't provide a single example of my denigrating one other contribution because it hasn't happened, and it won't happen because I wouldn't do it. We're talking about whether or not to include a fact regardless of how one feels about the subject at hand. Say what you want, that nickname is a fact.
Someone at the Nets-Raptors game last night had a sign that read "Mommy isn't here, Vince" - hmm, I guess I must have told him to write that since I'm making all this stuff up, right? 208.72.4.1 13:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/griggman/tag/NBA - this article shows a journalist refer to him as "wince" not once but twice. Also, I'm not a journalist so I can't hide behind "I can't reveal my sources", but I can't reveal my sources for the issue of peers who don't respect him or contrast his commitment to the likes of other players that are generally highly regarded.
http://heat.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5700037552/m/6970047384 Here's a forum comment of a Miami Heat fan saying he doesn't want "Wince Carter here to choke away games and not show up for big games". And there are tons of them where people out there use these specific terms to refer to Vince Carter.
This section really is pathetic. It's full of elaborate justifications for why some of you just don't want any negativity about a player you like. Don't pretend you're just being rational and objective. If a Google search result shows a lot of people calling him "Wince," it is PLAINLY OBVIOUS that "Wince" is one of his nicknames. Furthermore, the blog entry provided above isn't some random guy's blog; it's the Sporting News, which posts blog entries from sportswriters, not just disgruntled fans. I'm tempted to change the entry, but it's obvious my changes will be undone by defensive Carter fan hiding behind a mask of objective and responsible editing.Dantès (talk) 21:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
That, of course, it why I included three citations, many of which cited numerous examples of fan and media discontent. Cumulatively, that would support the words "widely viewed." However, even if you choose to take issue with that phrase, you could have simply rephrased it instead of deleting it. The fact that you chose to completely delete something with several supporting citations indicates that you're unwilling to include unflattering information about Carter, not that you're concerned with proper encyclopedic content. With that in mind, I've undone your edit and slightly modified my own contribution. If you read the citations I provide, you'll find they actually back up my contribution. If you delete it again, you're unequivocally proving a bias. Dantès (talk) 21:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
You really should READ contributions before deleting them. In my re-write, I changed "widely viewed" to more neutral language. Clearly, you are deleting things without reading them, which is just lazy and irresponsible editing. Had you checked it before deleting, you'd know that. Furthermore, you clearly are not reading the citations before disregarding them, because there is no "interpretation" to be found. The articles expressly refer to fans booing Carter for quitting on the team, and at least one of the articles literally says "Carter quit on the team." These are not my conclusions. They are clearly stated in the articles. I have provided verifiable sources that clearly back up my contribution. I'm re-instating my edit and unless you're willing to edit properly, you should leave it alone.Dantès (talk) 23:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
And incidentally, your definition of "weasel words" is nonsensical here. As the articles prove, a great many fans dislike Carter for his lack of effort and sportswriters feel the same. Naturally, it is impossible to specify the exact number of fans who feel that way and the same is true of sportswriters. "Many" is an entirely reasonable word to use and if you disagree, suggest a better word, as a proper editor would. You cannot completely remove this reference to a well-known and well-documented phenomenon because of some arguable wording. To do it is, again, obvious bias. Dantès (talk) 23:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't need to make judgments about your bias because it's plain to see. Why else are you so strict about my negative contribution about Carter, but you have allowed almost an entire paragraph of unverified information that exonerates Carter regarding tipping off opposing teams about plays? There are no sources to verify that "the accusations were baseless" and there is evidence attributed to two different people with nothing to back it up. Instead it just says "citation needed," which is as weaselly as it gets. I've taken your patronizing advice and rephrased my contribution again, but your intense scrutiny of my contribution while turning a blind eye to unverified pro-Carter information is very telling. Dantès (talk) 21:38, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Mosmof, grow up. Your continued PR campaign in support of Carter undermines your credibility as an editor. Several times now, you have deleted information backed up by credible sources because it's not pro-Carter. Whether or not you like it is irrelevant. The fact it that it's true, so you just need to accept it. Dantès (talk) 21:32, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Article about Vince Carter playing the 07-08 Season with an ankle injury should be included. Vince just underwent successful right arthroscopic ankle surgery. That just confirmed that he was playing in pain the whole season but still managed to put up a 20-5-5 average. Source: http://www.nba.com/nets/news/Vince_Carter_4_28_08.html
--15.9 points per game average is mediocre? I think that is not an accurate description. It may not live up to Carter's normal stats, but 15.9 points per game is not mediocre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.147.152 (talk) 15:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Once again, I've had to edit the section on the reaction to Carter's admission that he didn't play hard in his final days as a Raptor. Why? - Someone deleted two links to credible, verifiable content (Sports Illustrated, ESPN) - Wrote about Toronto fans' "perception," which is subjective and unverifiable. Incidentally, there is nothing to perceive since Carter's own comments are essentially a confession - Changed the paragraph to make it more Carter-friendly but also made it chronologically inaccurate by mentioning the 2007 Toronto Star piece before Thompson's comments in 2005
This material has been consistently changed and "massaged" to soften the accusations against Carter, which I've supplied in several verifiable sources. It's the truth; deal with it.Dantès (talk) 20:13, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Per ESPN, the deal has only been agreed upon in principle. Per WP:CRYSTAL, we don't change roster details until a transaction has been officially completed. Thanks. --Madchester (talk) 21:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I remember some years ago when he was still with the raptors that my local YMCA basketball camp i was in took us to UCF to go to this vince carter thing where we practiced basketball with him, even played 21 with him and a group of kids, got his autograph. Anyway, if anyone can help find information on this to add to the article it'd be appreciated. So far i've found this, which i am certain is probably the event i went to. camp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.138.221 (talk) 06:43, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be included in the article? This is a common nickname for him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.199.86 (talk) 07:30, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Hopefully I'm looking at vandalized page right now. Mr. Carter's having one daughter should not be included in the same section as his "off the court" accomplishments. That's borderline disrespectful to him and his family and thoughtless on behalf of the half-brained editor. Perhaps a "personal life" section is well overdue.......... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.93.159 (talk • contribs) 05:49, February 9, 2010 UTC
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Phoenix Suns (2010 - present)
On December 18, 2010, Carter was traded to the Phoenix Suns along with Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round draft pick, and $3 million, for former Magic player Hedo Türkoğlu, Jason Richardson, and Earl Clark.[42]
should be changed to
Phoenix Suns (2010 - present)
On December 18, 2010, Carter was traded to the Phoenix Suns along with Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round draft pick, and $3 million, for former Sun players Hedo Türkoğlu, Jason Richardson, and Earl Clark.[42]
because Hedo and the others were with the Phoenix Suns before the trade, thx
84.157.231.182 (talk) 20:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
vince carter was drafted by tha golden state warriors and was traded to the torontro raptors for antwan jamison —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.63.169 (talk) 01:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
The above request
"On December 18, 2010, Carter was traded to the Phoenix Suns along with Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round draft pick, and $3 million, for former Magic player Hedo Türkoğlu, Jason Richardson, and Earl Clark.[42]
should be changed to
Phoenix Suns (2010 - present)
On December 18, 2010, Carter was traded to the Phoenix Suns along with Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round draft pick, and $3 million, for former Sun players Hedo Türkoğlu, Jason Richardson, and Earl Clark.[42]
because Hedo and the others were with the Phoenix Suns before the trade, thx" ....However Hedo was previously on the Orlando Magic, and is most recognized by people for his contributions in Orlando's 2008 NBA Finals run against Lakers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.249.99.129 (talk) 03:47, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
(Dallas Mavericks 2011-present — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oakrules3 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
(Dallas Mavericks 2011-)
should be changed to
(Dallas Mavericks 2011-present) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oakrules3 (talk • contribs) 03:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
IMO even if it's not any official kind of stat or anything — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.199.45 (talk) 09:55, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
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Vince Carter is now officially a member of the Atlanta Hawks. He should no longer be listed as a free agent on his wikipedia page.
Hakeem Olajuwon came out of retirement in 2015 to play in the NBA Africa Game, which was an official NBA game, hence he is the first to play in the NBA in four different decades (80s, 90s, 00s, 10s). Carter is the first to play regular season games in four different decades and play continuously across four different decades. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:1382:C220:B839:FF2B:9292:2DFA (talk) 15:29, 25 June 2020 (UTC)