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meta-template for nowiki of parameter template?

I'm looking for a meta template that can print the nowiki of its input (variable parameter) template, but I couldn't find anything after looking for a while. I also tried to make something like it but I struggled with dealing with recursion. The template would function like so:

Template code (Template:exampleTemplate)

(({output|default output))}

Template code (Template:myMetaTemplate)

???? (({1|))} ????

Input

((myMetaTemplate|((exampleTemplate|output=alt output))))

Output

((exampleTemplate|output=alt output))

The reason why I want this template is to make an echo meta-template for template documentation. Basically, I want to insert both the template call and the output just by referring to the template call once, within this echo template. This echo template would be something like below:

Template code (Template:Echo)

((myMetaTemplate|(({1|))))} (({1|))}

Input

((Echo|((exampleTemplate|output=alt output))))

Output

((exampleTemplate|output=alt output)) alt output

Arathun (talk) 16:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is the reason why I started m:Requests for comment/Let Template:Tl be a magic word on Meta Wiki. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TLSC

I thought that Template:Tlsc should be included under See also. Fettlemap (talk) 19:36, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 February 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 18:40, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Tl → Template:Template link – This template has a "shortcut" name, but similar templates are located at their full names. JsfasdF252 (talk) 17:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support - straightforward from WP:TMPG: "Template function should be clear from the template name, but redirects can be created to assist everyday use of very popular templates." The longer name makes the function more clear at a glance. -- Netoholic @ 20:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Yep, should be moved to be more clear. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did the move operation just break this template across wikipedia?

I'm seeing usages across various project pages being interrupted by massive redirect banners suddenly. BlackholeWA (talk) 22:24, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BlackholeWA: This is because Anthony Appleyard (talk · contribs) renamed the template but didn't fix consequent double redirects. I've fixed them now. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Redrose64 and BlackholeWA: Thanks, sorry. I will remember what to do next time. Sorry. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 00:57, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request to complete TfD nomination

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Template:Template link has been listed at Templates for discussion (nomination), but was protected so could not be tagged. Please add:

((subst:tfm|help=off|1=Tlu))

to the top of the page to complete the nomination. Thank you. JsfasdF252 (talk) 17:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done Primefac (talk) 17:27, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I find the TfM link extremely distracting. This template is used in more than 6 million pages while ((Tlu)) in 11K. (See?) Please change |type=tiny to |type=disabled. Nardog (talk) 19:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is so ridiculous it cracks me up:

Rcat functional index

Grammar,
punctuation,
and spelling

Abbreviation	((R to acronym)) ((R from acronym)) ((R to initialism)) ((R from initialism)) ((R from numeronym)) ((R from Bluebook abbreviation)) ((R from ISO 4 abbreviation)) ((R from MathSciNet abbreviation)) ((R from NLM abbreviation))
Capitalisation	((R from CamelCase)) ((R from other capitalisation)) ((R from miscapitalisation))
Grammar & punctuation	((R from modification)) ((R from plural)) ((R to plural))
Parts of speech	((R from adjective)) ((R from adverb)) ((R from common noun)) ((R from gerund)) ((R from proper noun)) ((R from verb))
Spelling	((R from alternative spelling)) ((R from alternative hyphenation)) ((R from alternative punctuation)) ((R from alternative spacing)) ((R from alternative transliteration)) ((R from American English)) ((R from ASCII-only)) ((R to ASCII-only)) ((R from British English)) ((R from diacritic)) ((R to diacritic)) ((R from ligature)) ((R to ligature)) ((R from misspelling)) ((R from stylization))

Alternative
names

General	((R from alternative language)) language codes ((R from alternative name)) ((R from ambiguous sort name)) ((R from antonym)) ((R from colloquial name)) ((R country data)) ((R from former name)) ((R from incomplete name)) ((R from incorrect name)) ((R from less specific name)) ((R from long name)) ((R from more specific name)) ((R from non-neutral name)) ((R to numerals)) ((R from numerals)) ((R to Roman numerals)) ((R from Roman numerals)) ((R from portmanteau)) ((R from short name)) ((R from sort name)) ((R from synonym))
People	((R from birth name)) ((R from given name)) ((R to joint biography)) ((R from married name)) ((R from name with title)) ((R from person)) ((R from personal name)) ((R from Eastern name)) ((R from pseudonym)) ((R from surname))
Technical	((R from CAS Registry Number)) ((R from court case)) ((R from drug trade name)) ((R from filename)) ((R from identifier)) ((R from Java package name)) ((R from chemical formula)) ((R from gene symbol)) ((R from technical name)) ((R to technical name)) ((R from radio frequency))
Organisms	((R to scientific name)) ((R from scientific name)) ((R from alternative scientific name)) ((R from scientific abbreviation)) ((R to monotypic taxon)) ((R from monotypic taxon)) ((R taxon with possibilities)) ((R from species to genus))
Geography	((R from name and country)) ((R from more specific geographic name)) ((R from postal code))

Navigation
aids

Navigation	((R to anchor)) ((R avoided double redirect)) ((R from category navigation)) ((R from file metadata link)) ((R to list entry)) ((R mentioned in hatnote)) ((R to section)) ((R from shortcut))
Disambiguation	((R from ambiguous term)) ((R to disambiguation page)) ((R from incomplete disambiguation)) ((R from incorrect disambiguation)) ((R from other disambiguation)) ((R from predictable disambiguation)) ((R from unnecessary disambiguation))
Merge, duplicate & move	((R from draft namespace)) ((R from duplicated article)) ((R with history)) ((R from merge)) ((R from move)) ((R with old history))
To namespaces	((R from remote talk page)) ((R to category namespace)) ((R to draft namespace)) ((R to help namespace)) ((R to main namespace)) ((R to portal namespace)) ((R to project namespace)) ((R to talk page)) ((R to template namespace)) ((R to user namespace))

Media

General

((R from book)) ((R from film)) ((R from upcoming film)) ((R from journal)) ((R from meme)) ((R from radio program)) ((R from work)) ((R from creator)) ((R from radio frequency)) ((R from broadcast translator))
Music	((R from album)) ((R from lyric)) ((R from song)) ((R from cover song)) ((R from band name))
Television	((R from television episode)) ((R from television program))

Fiction

Comics

Miscellaneous

Related information	((R to article without mention)) ((R to decade)) ((R to century)) ((R to millennium)) ((R from city and state)) ((R from domain name)) ((R from second-level domain)) ((R from top-level domain)) ((R from gender)) ((R from legislation)) ((R from list topic)) ((R from member)) ((R from phrase)) ((R from quotation)) ((R to related topic)) ((R from related word)) ((R from relative)) ((R from spouse)) ((R from school)) ((R from subsidiary)) ((R from subtopic)) ((R to subtopic)) ((R from gap in series)) ((R from team)) ((R from Unicode character)) ((R from Unicode code)) ((R from emoji))
With possibilities	((R with possibilities)) Category:Template redirects with possibilities ((R category with possibilities))
ISO codes	((R from ISO 4 abbreviation)) ((R from ISO 639 code)) ((R from ISO 3166 code)) ((R from ISO 4217 code)) ((R from ISO 15924 code))
Printworthiness	Printability ((R printworthy)) ((R unprintworthy)) e.g. ((R with possibilities)) is printworthy by default; ((R from misspelling)) is unprintworthy by default; some have no default
Protection	((R extended-protected)) ((R fully protected)) ((R semi-protected)) ((R template-protected)) ((R from high-use template))
Tools	Category:Miscellaneous redirects Protection policy ((R from template-generated category)) ((Redirect category shell)) ((Talk page of redirect))
Wikidata	((R with Wikidata item)) ((Soft redirect with Wikidata item))

Complete alphanumeric index
- for the full list of rcat templates
Category
WikiProject Redirect
Categorizing redirects

Nardog (talk) 20:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: This is extremely distracting. Mind removing the TfM template and acting in consequence, maybe suggesting an RfC instead? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:57, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done RandomCanadian, that's not how this works. Disabling the notice, sure. Why the heck would we ignore every procedure we have and have a month-long discussion (i.e. RFC) when TFD works perfectly fine? That is a rhetorical question and does not need answering, but I would please ask that you strike your pointless opposition at the TFD itself. Primefac (talk) 23:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was just echoing the suggestion of somebody else at that discussion. Anyway now resolved. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:09, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: Thanks! Can you also remove the space between |text=yes)))) and {{? It puts the line in <pre>...</pre> if used at the beginning of a line. Nardog (talk) 23:08, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nowiki stopped working

For some reason, <nowiki> quit working inside parameter input with this and related templates for a while (I think I encountered this about 24 to 36 hours ago):

((tlx|foo|baz((=))<nowiki>[[Quux]]</nowiki>))

produced output that looked like:

((foo|bar|baz=Quux))

instead of:

((foo|bar|baz=[[Quux]]))

My immediate suspicion is that it had something to do with the TfD-related tagging (and dispute about that) around that time period, under discussion here and here. Whatever caused it should be identified, and we should see if there's a way to prevent that in the future, since it (temporarily) corrupted a whole lot of template documentation into gibberish (and worse, like completely incorrect descriptions of parameter usage and behavior). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 23:21, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I see zero reason why adding the TfD template would cause the [[Template:(({1))}|(({1))}]] to stop working, except for maybe it could be a parser issue with the extra code added on causing an overload, but that usually affects transclusions not tags. Plus, we've had "well-used" templates get tagged before and it has not adversely affected them. Server-side glitch? Primefac (talk) 23:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can't think of any possible explanation for it stopping working recently. From my reading of the code, it appears to have been broken since November 2020, when Module:Template link general was deployed. That module has called mw.text.unstripNoWiki on each template parameter, and has since Special:Diff/952179764 for reasons I don't understand. You can work around this with ((tlx|foo|bar|baz=[[quux]]|nowiki}yes)) (producing ((foo|bar|baz=[[quux]])), but I agree that how to format parameters should be none of this template's business. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:09, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've added some code to Module:Template link general/sandbox that should fix this issue. Although many of testcases are yellow, the differences are non-visual, except for the corner case that parameters containing empty nowiki tags at the end no longer ignored, which nothing should care about (and I'd argue that the new behavior is more correct anyway). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:45, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]