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Possible way to limit bloat[edit]

A possible way of limiting bloat would be to have a design like this ((Help navigation/sandbox))

v t e Wikipedia help pages
*Visit the Teahouse* or the Help desk for an interactive Q & A forum. FAQs (?) Reference desks (?) Noticeboards (?) Cheatsheet (?) Directories (?)**
About Wikipedia (?)	Administration Purpose Principles Policies and guidelines What Wikipedia is not Disclaimer (parental advice) Making requests Who writes Wikipedia?
Help for readers (?)	FAQ Books Copyright Glossary Mobile access Navigation Other languages Searching Students Viewing media
Contributing to Wikipedia (?)	Advice for young editors Avoiding common mistakes Etiquette Simplified Manual of Style Simplified rule-set "Ignore all rules" "The rules are principles" Style-tips Tip of the day Your first article (article wizard)
Getting started (?)	Why create an account? Introductions by topic Graphics tutorials Picture tutorial IRC (live chat) tutorial VisualEditor user guide
Dos and don'ts (?)	Accessibility Biographies Biographies (living) Categorization Consensus Discussions Disambiguation Images Leads Links Lists References Tables Titles (of articles)
How-to pages and information pages (?)	Appealing blocks Article deletion Categories Citations/references Referencing for beginners Citation Style 1 Cite errors References and page numbers Convert Diff Editing Minor edit toolbar edit conflict Find sources Files Footnotes Image deletion Infoboxes Linking (link color) Logging in Merging Page name Renaming pages Redirect Passwords Email confirmation Reverting Simple vandalism cleanup Talk pages (archiving simple archiving) User contributions WP search protocol
Coding (?)	Wiki markup Barcharts Calculations Characters Columns Hidden text HTML Lists Magic words Music symbols Sections Sounds Tables Templates Transclusion URL Visual files
Directories (?)	Abbreviations Contents (Encyclopedia proper) Departments Editor's index Essays FAQs Glossary Guidelines Manual of Style Policies Tasks Tips Tools
Missing Manual Ask for help on your talk page (?)

Permanent link

Its pretty simple. Help: Contents, Noticeboards, Frequently asked questions (FAQs), Reference desks and The Missing Manual are changed to links at the top of the navbox. The rest of the navbox is much the same. This is simpler and might be more newbie friendly.

Any views or comments? --Jules (Mrjulesd) 21:54, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea,,,,,do it,,,,not many will see this (7 watchers), I say do it see if anyone complains from seeing it on pages. But we should change the "help contents" to help menu link...as the help contents is in every page already. --Moxy (talk) 22:24, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:35, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Revision of the left column[edit]

I've moved some links out of the left column, into the list, replacing them with plain text. The reason is that these weren't links to overview pages, they were links to pages that were comparable to other pages in the list.

Besides parallelism, the reason for the move is that a lot of users are going to be tempted to dive right into specifics (the list), rather than (they think) go to an intermediate page. If they take this approach, they're going to miss a specific page that could be useful.

Note: I didn't add or remove any links, I just moved some links to other places on the page.

-- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:03, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will be reverting the change...not sure why you would not have the parent articles linked in the left side as per the norm [[Wikipedia:About|About Wikipedia] (all links explained in article)], Contributing to Wikipedia (main how to pages

Math[edit]

Anna Dixon moved from Dallas to Milwaukee. 2603:8081:1401:5D5D:487F:79F6:4177:64CE (talk) 02:18, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]