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Jayjg (talk) 00:25, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
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a reponse to you request made here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jihad
I would like to tell you that on wikipedia we can not use the quran as the only source, you want to add something which says "suicide bombing is forbidden, because quran says not to kill yourself, this is found in verse blah blah blah", again this is impossible to do, as somone else can come along and say something different. if you use the quran as a reference, you must give a secondary source with an opinion.
and as evidence that there are different opinions of suicide bombing, you will find many muslims scholars support it (such as yusuf al qaradawi) , and others are against it.
a fatwa from yusuf al qaradawi in support of it (with support from the quran and hadith):http://www.religioscope.com/pdf/martyrdom.pdf
fatwa against it (with support from the quran and hadith): http://www.fatwaonterrorism.com/
(hope you understand)--Misconceptions2 (talk) 11:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi, i think you accidental removed some data from the "jihad" page, i have added back added back this part, "Some Islamic scholars dispute the authenticity of this reference and consider the meaning of jihad as a holy war to be more important." which was removed"
if you intended to remove it you need to have good reason, your reason was "BBC itself said that this is from an unreliable source! How can it be in an encyclopedia", but then your words did not match with your actions, i did not understand why you then went on to remove that part--Misconceptions2 (talk) 20:24, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
You have confused the names. The scholar who is in support of suicide bombing is Yusuf al Qaradawi, his fatwa is found here http://www.religioscope.com/pdf/martyrdom.pdf
The scholar who is against suicide bombing is Tahir ul qadri, his fatwa is found here http://www.fatwaonterrorism.com/, they are not same person friend. ANyway, i am happy that you understood the problem. Also you can add their opinions to wikipedia but wikipedia does not allow point pushing, so you can not present opinions as facts.
The community on wikipedia agreed that primary sources should nto be used without secondary sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Primary_Secondary_and_Tertiary_Sources --Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:26, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
yes, press the 4th button, after u press edit. to get the date and time. also, are you suggesting that bbc is wrong and you are right? because on wikipedia their is no such thing as right and wrong.The truth does not exist on wikipedia, see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Truth
on wikipedia we say what reliable sources say about the truth.not what you think is the truth. bbc is a reliable source if you can find a reliable source that says that the holy war is not the greater jihad, then go ahead and add it. (p.s, from my understanding, all 4 schools of islamic thought beleive that the holy war is the greater jihad, and that the hadith which divides jihad into the lesser and greater form.....is a fake hadith i.e their is no such thing as a greater and lesser jihad) see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jihad#Lesser_vs_greater_jihad_fake_.28no_source.29
--Misconceptions2 (talk) 23:52, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Apology accepted. I had a feeling you looked at my blocking history and judged me by that; it's unfortunate that mess is still following me around, but I understand why it made you less gentle with me. One good thing that came out of, though, it is that I know the blocking policy of Wikipedia very well ;)
The reason I changed the heading is that both the information I was adding and some existing information were about her life after Philips III died and there was no appropriate heading for that. You are definitely right by saying I should put a summary, especially when changes are made and I shall take more care to do so in the future. Greetings, Peaceingalaxy (talk) 08:48, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your nice words and the star, finally my boring userpage looks a bit more interesting~
Peaceingalaxy (talk) 10:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
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