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Hello,

I am writing on behalf of Newtown High School where I am an Assistant Principal at the school.

You have listed Adam Lanza as a "Notable Alumni" which is factually incorrect. This person did not graduate nor receive a diploma from Newtown High School. Therefore, he is not an alumna.

We ask that you immediately remove any reference to this person as an alumna of Newtown High School.

Please ensure that any information you post about Newtown High School is factually correct.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Christopher Siano Assistant Principal Newtown High School 12 Berkshire Rd. Sandy Hook, CT 06482

NewtownHS (talk) 22:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thank you for taking the time to write. Let me start by clarifying something: I did not add Lanza to the list on the Newtown High School (Connecticut) article, that was done by an IP editor on 14 January 2019, as you can see in the history here [1].

That said, it appears that he did receive a diploma from NHS on June 25, 2009, at least according to this [2] and to the New Yorker [3]. I do not know if this is true or not, but there it is. If you can provide some source stating that he did not, I'd be happy to see it as I just wasted 15 minutes looking for one on Google and failed to.

Personally, I have no stake in this at all but I do take exception to being told "to make sure information is factually correct before adding it to the 'pedia". With all due respect, that line is not exactly cordial. I'm happy to work with you on this should you wish to discuss it further. Markvs88 (talk) 23:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mark,

You have deleted the additions I made to the Fred Deluca and Peter Buck pages.

I'm not sure why you consider the link source not credible. The main link is a news story from the Taiwan media. I know the news story is in Chinese, but that's because the issue is from the China region. Do you consider the news source not credible because it is from outside the US/in a different language? What do you feel needs to be cited to confirm credibility, if a news story is not sufficient?

Hello Justmor1, and thank you for coming here to discuss the matter. There are three issues with your edits to those pages.

• First, as to why the Chinese site [www.net4p.com] is not reliable source. The bar for Wikipedia:Verifiability states that the source must be reliable, and that means its a known site of some reputation. Neither it, the "Jiang Yusong Network", or whatever shell of a shell of a shell company its real name is can be contacted directly, as they have no news desk. There is no way to verify the claims of the article, how it got there, if it was paid content, or if they did any fact checking. I'm also highly suspicious as to why this story hasn't gotten coverage in a reputable site like Formosa News, Hsinchu Government News, Xinhua, Chinadaily, Qilu Evening News etc.
• As for the second sources (details listed here [4] and here [5]), per Notability's subsection Reliable Sources, the source is not to be extremist or promotional. Not only are both of these sites promotional but they're clearly new sites (created on the same day at the same time with the same content less than a month ago) and are not anywhere near neutral in their coverage... these sites were self published exclusively to further a cause. I also can't find anywhere on the site that states who did this alleged investigation. It's activism, not reporting.
• Third, and perhaps most importantly: Fred DeLuca has been dead for over three years, and his wife does not run Subway. Likewise, Fred Buck is 88 years old, has been retired for years and was never in charge of the company. It strains credulity that any of these people had anything to do with this issue.

The issue could be a suitable one for the Subway (restaurant), *if* viable THIRD PARTY sources could be found to substantiate the claim. However, attributing a free-range chicken issue to a man who's been dead for years, his widow, or his ancient surviving partner based on these sources is not reasonable.

I hope that I have been clear here, and I am happy to expand on any points you wish to discuss further, if any. Also please understand that my entire reply here is to substantiate the content removals and none of it is directed at you personally. Best wishes, Markvs88 (talk) 19:16, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm editing it because the route is actually ending. This is per airline officials and sources who are aware of the situation, so stop reverting it. It's true, otherwise I wouldn't put it on there. Saturnpilot (talk) 17:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)Saturnpilot[reply]

If it's true, cite it. Also, why not reply on your own talk page? Markvs88 (talk) 23:26, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Bluefish folded and were replaced by the Rockers, a separate franchise. The Bees replaced the Riversharks, both are separate franchises too. My source is Atlantic League President Rick White. I can’t add a source cause my source is on email, you expect me to upload my whole personal email address to Wikipedia? I don’t think so. My source is Atlantic League President Rick White on email.Granthew (talk) 07:35, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Granthew. Let me first say that I appreciate your taking the time to write here. However, per wp:cite anything uncited can be deleted at any time. No, I don't expect you to upload personal emails. No one is asking that. However, if it's not a verifiable fact it's... not a verifiable fact. There's *lots* of things I could post here on WP that I know are true but I don't because it's against the whole point of the 'pedia. I'm happy to discuss this further if you like. Best wishes, Markvs88 (talk) 12:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I’ll be uploading my email messages, thanks a lot, this is why Wikipedia is still untrustworthy. You can contact President Rick White at rwhite@atlanticleague.com. Granthew (talk) 20:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An email from the league president is a primary source. We avoid using primary sources. The rest is irrelevant. -- Pemilligan (talk) 02:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, thank you for your comment at the ongoing MFD about wp:ITSACASTLE. --Doncram (talk) 06:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, and in this case it was a very easy decision to make. Markvs88 (talk) 16:06, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The most recent edits made by 173.81.187.245 may be by an IP, and may seem annoying to you, but they were made in good faith and certainly not vandalism. No foul language, just some cosmetic changes to articles. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:50, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I already dropped you a line on your page about this. The IP just got blocked for three years because I reported it as vandalism... and I really did think it was. If you're saying they're good, I need to get that undone. Markvs88 (talk) 01:53, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I really find it frustrating that people on the Westminster talk page claim bad sourcing and many editors just rollback material to just melt the article to its bones while putting zero effort to make it better in any way.

Look at Taft's article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft_School

Taft's is clearly much more unreliably sourced but hey, it gets to keep all its stuff, and oh, also like many, many other schools.

Just totally fair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbernaut123 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bobbernaut123. I wish to raise three points for you to consider:

1) I've never posted on the Westminster talk page.

2) The Westminster article is 16 TIMES the size of the Taft article.

3) I rollback unsourced additions on something like 9000 Connecticut related articles. Also, feel free to check my edit history, I purge stuff from schools most days. Like East Catholic High School earlier today.

I understand your desire to complain, but really, the best thing you can do is just find sources for what you're adding to any given article. It's not personal. Markvs88 (talk) 03:51, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting an improvement like this, especially using rollback, is not appropriate. The edit was not vandalism, which is what rollback is for. Your response and follow-up are even worse, claiming that an edit summary was not used when one was. Given your tenure, you should know that c.e. means copy edit, and its variations are very common. A better response (to a fellow vandal fighter) would have been "Sorry, my bad". — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:10, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]