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So instead of bothering to read anything or pay attention, you lob nukes? I don't really know what to say. I've responded, for whatever it's worth. Morty C-137 (talk) 05:40, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Followup

Morty, I know you have the idea that I am out to get you, and I'm sorry you have that impression. It is incorrect. I'd just like to explain why I showed up at that 3RR report: it was not because of you. It was because I had noticed Doorzki on the talk page of Snooganssnoogans, which I watchlist. Doorzki was obviously a problem account. I scolded them at that page for their edit summaries,[1] and then followed them to the 3RR board, where I recommended a block for them. I could have just gone ahead and blocked them for disruptive editing, but at admin boards I tend to wait for a consensus. My initial comment at that page was about them; it was not about you or directed to you. I did make a general comment about sock puppet accusations, which you responded to by making another such accusation.

About socks: there are two issues. One is that you are unfortunately targeted by a troll, who creates accounts mocking you. That's a tough situation for anybody, and I wish there was a way to prevent it. Those are purely abusive accounts; they should be, and are, blocked on sight by any administrator. One of them turned up yesterday and was blocked within minutes. Any time you become aware of one of those troll accounts, let any admin know; there is no need for confirmation or investigation.

The other issue is that (possibly because of your bad experiences with the troll) you tend to claim that some regular users are socks, and to call them socks on talk pages and discussion boards. That's a problem, because calling someone a sock without evidence is regarded as a personal attack. I do recommend that in the future, if you think someone is a sock of D.H.110, you file an SPI with diffs, and get them definitively dealt with. And in the meantime not keep saying "sock, sock, sock" at discussion pages. I gave you credit for having filed an SPI about Doorzki, but I was mistaken; someone else had filed that. The SPI people concluded he was not a sock of D.H.110, but it was worthwhile finding that out. And he is blocked anyhow, as he should be.

I regret that you regard me as an adversary; I am not. I do not follow you around, but I do watch some pages where you are active, and that means we will occasionally cross paths. I do hope our interactions in the future can be less antagonistic and more focused on whatever is the issue at hand. --MelanieN (talk) 19:05, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@MelanieN: - there you go again. "I gave you credit for having filed an SPI about Doorzki, but I was mistaken; someone else had filed that." - No, you upbraided me for not having filed one when I had been in the middle of doing so when User:LionMans Account had simply beaten me to it, filling the form out first. But you insist on making snide comments like that and treating me in an adversarial manner, which is why I regard you as someone likely to continue doing so in the future. If I regard you as an adversary, it's because of your repeatedly adversarial conduct towards me and your seeming inability to treat me with an assumption of good faith. Morty C-137 (talk) 21:08, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I tried. I hope our future interactions are more cordial. --MelanieN (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@MelanieN: No, you didn't really try. If you had actually had intention of trying, you wouldn't have been snidely insulting me. But this seems to be your pattern - you'll insult me, you'll make constant assumptions of bad faith about me or twist anything I do to mean the worst possible so you can justify arrogant put-downs and insults towards me, and then you'll act aggrieved when I notice it and point your behavior out. If you want cordial interaction, then change your clearly WP:CIVIL-violating behavior. Morty C-137 (talk) 21:40, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]