Oops! I followed the wrong procedure in getting rid of a page with an incorrectly-spelled title. I have asked User:Hyacinth how to go about it. Sorry about that. Mona-Lynn 03:18, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
All I do all day long is listen to qawalli too...I'm trying to set up a website or atleast a series of Wikimedia pages with a comprehensive listing of qawallis along with decent English translations (My Persian and Hindi are decent, Urdu so-so, and Punjabi and Sindhi nonexistent)...interested? --Notquiteauden 11:49, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Definitely! (Though I'm not sure how much time I would have to devote to this in the next few months. Would have a lot more time after July.)
There are, of course, several web sites where you can find transliterations and translations. Almost all of the translations you see, though, are literal translations. They convey the literal meaning (often in purple prose) but very little of the beauty of the original lyrics.
There's a yahoo discussion group (see link under Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan) which has a "comprehensive" listing of Nusrat's qawwalis (also translations, transliterations and other good stuff).
My Hindi, Urdu and Punjabi are reasonable (though I can't read Urdu). I used to write poetry in the days of my youth. I have translated a handful of Nusrat's qawwalis. At some point in the future I certainly want to do some more. Sarabseth 12:17, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
NIce to see some Qwali fans . A lot of Nusrat fateh ali's Qawwalis R available here . Hope U guys enjoy it . Its a bit torrent site .
Btw I think if U include meditation into your hapiness formula , it will benifit U many times more .It wil be like a . Farhansher
The link doesn't work. Is something missing?
As for formulae, everyone has to find their own formula. Mine works for me just fine! Sarabseth 21:14, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I ve updated the link , hope it works . If it doesnt , visit www.desitorrents.com , & search/request for Qwwalis . GBs of Qwwalis haveben uploaded there .Farhansher
Thanks! I had tried searching for Nusrat Fateh Ali and that didn't work. Will check it out later. Sarabseth 12:33, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It is nice to see someone so passionate about Qawwali engaging with the Wikipedia.
I have made the move to Qawwali as the main article on the subject. What do you think?
By the way, have you heard traditional Qawwalis much? Nusrat Fateh brought a lot of us to the form, but there is also great depth and richness in the wider tradition and its spiritual background...—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 02:31, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, can you please undo the move? There is some discussion of technical issues relating to this under Talk:Qawwali. The idea is to move the page only when the revision history can be preserved in the move.
Also, in this move that you just made, the discussion under "Talk:Qawalli" has disappeared. Is there a way to preserve that too?
I have listened to traditional qawwali very extensively. My collection includes all kinds of lesser known qawwals too -- practically everyone whose work is available in India in audio CD or video CD formats.
Still, to my mind, Nusrat's qawwali is deeply satisfying in a way that no one else's comes close to being. There is a special magic that Nusrat weaves. In the hands of other qawwals, qawwali can be great, profound music. In Nusrat's hands, it turns into pure distilled magic. (Just my personal opinion; I don't necessarily expect other people to agree. In qawwali, as in life, you have to find your own guide, and your own path.) Sarabseth 20:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I wonder if anyone can explain to me the significance of "Kausar". It comes up often in qawwalis. I know it is the name of a fountain in Paradise, but there is clearly some significance over and above that. Ali is referred to as "Saqi-e-Kausar", and there are references to how he will greet entrants into Paradise and offer them the waters of Kausar to drink. Sarabseth 17:21, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! That's a big help.
I'll have to go back and listen to the Nusrat qawwalis which convinced me that the Kausar references were to Ali.
So there's no specific symbolic significance attached to Kausar, or to Muhammad offering the waters of Kausar to drink? Kausar just loosely represents the abundance to be found in paradise? Sarabseth 21:12, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
About the additional significance. Well, the references are more implied and metaphysical than some thing I could list as bullets. Here's a rough start as my limited intellect allows:
For Sufis, the stream of Sufi wisdom and knowledge (metaphysical "knowing", rather than written words, of course) is traced back to Muhammad through one of two people he is said to have initiated in that field: Abu Bakar and Ali. So one implication is something of the nature of "let's go to imbibe of this fount of wisdom (gnosis, ma'arifath, irfan...) directly from the source". And when one is talking of streams and liquids to be imbibed, the person at the "source" of it is identified using the symbology of one of the things Islamic tradition says will happen in paradise: those "with Mohammad" will have access to the "Waters" of Kausar. Of course, one underlying thing you have to keep in mind, is that the whole symbology of "drinkers"/"imbibers" (sharaabee, mai-kash, or badha-khaar) has multiple meanings. The question of talking about the imbibing of Sufi wisdom (often considered heretical and thus, like alcohol, forbidden by orthodox Muslims) using the metaphor of drinking alcohol and vice-versa is kept fluid, and is part of the paradigm-subverting nature of Sufi poetry--and its beauty. See also my post on the Urdu ke naam blog about The Object of the Sufi Poet's Devotion.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 04:39, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! Sarabseth 14:31, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I reverted the nusrat fateh ali khan page because the copywrite material can be used in this way under the fair use doctrine.
Hello, I've just added some information on the new American Nusrat tribute band which is using jazz instruments to play his music. I saw this band live a couple of weeks ago and it was truly transcendent, very respectful of the tradition and reached the same kind of ecstasy that Nusrat was able to achieve. They are all Americans and they sing in Punjabi and Urdu too. If you listen to the sound samples let me know what you think! Best, Badagnani 23:02, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Hello , I too am interested in Sufi Dhafs, though the Sufi Dhafs that usualy listen to is not called qawwali (well it depends on whether we take qawwali to mean Sufi music in general or the music produced by those who call themselves qawwal , can hardly matter anyway), here is a link to CD's of a Sufi master who was an unparalleled master of Tanbur in the past century in Iran , I hope you enjoy them : Ostad Elahi CDs Pasha Abd 17:17, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
You are welcome , I found another source of Sufi music online , this one is realy passionate:Razbar EnsemblePasha Abd 21:37, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
I thought you might be interested in this . F.a.y.تبادله خيال /c 19:35, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
one day i hear one persian casset of khan sahib befor 5year.from a thos day i searh this casset
but i can't found util 20th May 2006 9.00pm.
Hope you had a good holi. I will be posting some qawwali and poetry quotes about holi at: http://urdukenaam.blogspot.com in a while (tonight or tomorrow), by the way. (I think we were discussing Qawwali a while back, no?) --iFaqeer 06:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I too love Qawwalis, Nusrat (I have all his albums), the Sabri Brothers... even though my understanding of the lyrics is very limited, (especially when it comes to Persian) - it is though the songs go beyond words and language. (I still read the translations though!)
Looking for more good qawwalis - any pointers would be appreciated! Keep up the good work! Sfacets 12:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Sarabseth. I have reverted your changes to the external links section on the Sabri Brothers article. The changes you made do not follow the Wikipedia Manual of Style for external links. For future reference it would be best to leave the offical home page of an artist as the first external link. Although this is not offical policy it is consistent with the usage for other artist pages on Wikipedia. The artist's own page is, arguably, the most up-to-date and important external resource for an artist. --Mperry 20:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
You decided to remove a link to an attempted translation of Saqia Aur Pila.
Rather than remove the link and call it "amateur translation riddled with errors" - would it not have been more productive to ditch the smug pretentious attitude and at least provide a more accurate translation or help correct it?
I don't think the word bastardized should be used, but I guess you could explain how filmi qawwali is a for-the-masses version of true qawwali music. But by any means, please do help me improve Filmi qawwali. And it would be truly appreciated if you created a few articles on famous Qawwali songs, especially those by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. I love qawwali too, but I'm not that knowledgable on this topic. Thanks! Mar de Sin Talk to me! 22:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
You removed the qualifier I had put in to that article clarifying that Qawwali is the South Asian tradition of Sufi music. The way the article reads now, it seems that this is the one and only musical tradition for any and all Sufis anywhere in the world. That's not accurate...
----iFaqeer 19:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I know that you work for osa you are not allowed commercial catalogues perhaps if the company didnt rip its artist of you would have some new ones —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.13.244.75 (talk) 14:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC).
Hi there! In what way do you disagree with my changing the text to "some" Sufis? From a Sufi standpoint, it's the music of the Chisthi Order... there are several other prominent orders on the Indian Subcontinent, such as the Naqshbandis, who don't practice Qawwali. And as for the other word I changed... Qawwali was traditionally performed at shrines, not just mainly. Yes obviously it has branched out a lot since then, but the sentence starts out "Originally..." - and originally, it was at shrines. Can you undo your revert please? – cacahuate talk 16:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I have copied this discussion to Talk: qawwali. If anyone wants to add to it, please do so there. --Sarabseth 03:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I just heard this article "Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan: A Sufi Music Master Revived" on NPR and was hoping that you'd be able to work it into Qawwali and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. What do you think? Is this dub remix consdiered a good thing for Qawwali music? I wasn't familiar with it until I heard this. Now I am hooked! --travisthurston 02:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I am about to start work on this article, and would like to invite you to collaborate with me on this article to bring it upto FA status. If you are interested in working on this article, please let me know and we can work out a strategy to find sources and work out which FA article to emulate. I think there should be donzes of sources for Ustad Nusrat, and it will be a rewarding experience to bring this great man's page to FA status. --Zaindy٨٧ 09:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
No worries, I thought that's what you meant... hope you're well – cacahuate talk 18:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello, regarding the discussion about the external links of the Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan article, I just now noticed that the very first edit you made after you joined Wikipedia (over three years ago) was the addition of the group you are now trying to insert back in. Per this observation it appears that you may have a conflict of interest with Wikipedia regarding the link. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
Thank you, Themfromspace (talk) 17:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Thank you. Themfromspace (talk) 23:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Nice to work with you again (on Khusro)!
--iFaqeer (talk) 05:30, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking the same thing! --Sarabseth (talk) 13:36, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I saw your change on the Nizamuddin article and I wish to possibly correct you on one point. It is quite common for Sufi masters to give Khilafat or successorship to many of their cherished disciples who are then authorized to continue the spiritual chain themselves. (On rare occassions a Sufi has even got successorship from 2 different Sufi masters giving him two predecessors.) For example Baba Farid, gave khilafat or successorship to Hazrat Nizamuddin and Alauddin Sabir Kaliyari both. They both continued the Chisti silsila separately through the Chisti-Nizami order and the Chisti-Sabiri order. Similarly Hazrat Nizamuddin also had various successors. Regards--Shahab (talk) 16:17, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! You should probably edit the article to reflect the first fact. I was pretty sure of the second fact after doing some internet research, which is why I took out Khusro's name from the infobox. --Sarabseth (talk) 11:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
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Hello Sarabseth. I notice that you are interested in Sufism. I have put forth a request on the Reward Board for assistance in bringing the Sufi Saints of South Asia article to at least B-class. All meaningful contributors will get barnstars. The article is in dire need of being developed. It is an important article in relation to Islam in South Asia. Please help in developing the article. Regards--Shahab (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Mee too interested in South Asia sufism. Please add me, i can provide lot of authentic information about south Indian sufis.Wasifwasif (talk)
Dear Sarabseth, Earlier through our discussion teh contents of maqbara where shifted to a new article called madurai maqbara. But thereafter the article maqbara remains orphan and lot of tags are being placed on that nice article. So as a creator of the page MAQBARA i personally feel all the related topics can be brought under one roof. Your comments and suggestions are welcome. - wasifwasif
Sorry. The contents of maqbara.com are as such copied from wikipedia maqbara. As you may eb aware, Otherwise wiki wouldn't have allowwed to put that contents.
When it was decided to move the contents you said, "So be it. (In retrospect, it's pretty funny that you called me stubborn.) --Sarabseth (talk) 11:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)" -But you hav moved now. Why is it? -Wasifwasif
What do u exactly mean by dead reference in wikipedia? .-- wasifwasif.
Osh is a historical city in Fergana valley. Farghana province was created in 20th century and also is situated in Ferghana valley. Uzbekistan and Kyrgyz Republic didn't exist as a country at the time of Qutbuddin Bakhtiar Kaki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torebay (talk • contribs) 19:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sarabseth, I agree with you. Have added a notability template to the article and tagged a couple of key facts. Can another speedy be raised, or does it have to go to AfD? If so, do you want to do that? Thanks. Esowteric+Talk 16:17, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
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Sufi FIlms has nothing to do with Sufism, you can't be serious. There are very few sources in the media promoting films with a Sufi sensibility. While you may disagree with Sufi Films gentle approach in making films that have a sufi sensibility, like the Sufi or Islamic practice of medical cupping or using meditation oils attars to reach the divine, you have no right to deprive others of this information or hinder the promotion of Sufi oriented media ecause you disagree. Furthermore, if you looked a little harded at the website and films already produced like the biography of Sheikh Nazim, clearly Sufi subject matter, then you may change your mind.
I do agree that the Spiritual Circle link is not what it, at first glance, appeared to be (Sufi) and thus it is being removed. I hope that satisfies your objections. I do intend to add other production, film and media companies to this site as they are a valuable resource under this category as is Quawali Music is to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.123.26.52 (talk) 19:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Can I ask your particular expertise on what is Sufi. I'm serious, because I am at a loss as to why you would think a film company would deceive theri audience by calling what they do Sufi Films and not make Sufi Films. Sufi Films has a film called Spiritual Circles, it jumps off of the Sufi Hadra "circle" and explores the comminality of all spiritual paths that utilize circles to reach the Divine, this is from the Director. Historically Sufi's approach the masses with a subtle wisdom that seems to elude you. I would think anyone who really wants to see Sufism understood would be thrilled to see companies like this working in this genre of filmmaking. I hope you are not someone who has an agenda and are here to waste people's time who have practiced sufism for twenty or more years and are better able to determine what Sufi means and is. In short it is controling the ego, which seems to be the agenda. So please reflect a little and contemplate your motives and do not argue for sake of arguing. I really would like to know your credentials other than some interest in Sufi music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BeUnknown (talk • contribs) 21:57, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Looking at the site again, they have a film institute to train people to make Sufi oriented films. They have a stock footage house to preserve Sufi film and photos and they are non-profit. I intend to report this as vandalism if it continues. Peace! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BeUnknown (talk • contribs) 22:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sarabseth, just for your info, there's a thread about a 119.nnn.nnn.nnn IP (but which is basically related to Gohar Shahi edits) on the Administration noticeboard at:
Hi back,... I just took "honorifics" to mean both honorific suffixes and also honorific titles/prefixes. Your best bet is to ask Jayen466. He's well versed in such things and a Vet IV editor. Esowteric+Talk 17:35, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, regarding the long-running content disputes over articles and pages relating to Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi, I have opened an WP:RFC. Please see: Talk:Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi#RFC: Long-running content disputes. Thanks, Esowteric+Talk 12:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I could see a lot of titles and Honorifics added in the article of hazrat Khwaaja Mueenuddin chisti Raziyalla. Though we are supposed to add them, i am afraid if wikipedia policies allow them? Kindly work on that article.Sarabsethh (talk) 06:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
The article starts with "Sultan-ul-Hind, Hazrat Shaikh Khwaja Syed Muhammad Mu'īnuddīn Chishtī (Ajmeri)" which contains, titles and honorifics.
I put some perfectly reasonable articles in Sufism which were part of the Sufi template. You said that me adding a Tariqah or sufi text section is 'pointless'. You said the same thing about me adding nasheed to the article but they are all part of Sufism. Could you explain yourself please besides saying its pointless or irrelevant?Iwanttoeditthissh (talk) 08:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
Already we have discussed! a lot regarding this and my intention is not to repeat this. Before you delete the honorific honorific kindly go through the following.
The Sufism article has nothing on Sufi demographics, Can you make a heading with paragraph on this please? I think it would be a valuable addition. Iwanttoeditthissh (talk) 10:52, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Please see WP:REDDEAL :
Name of Nusrat in Punjabi:-1.Nusrat was born in Pakistani Punjab,where Punjabi is written in Shahmukhi script.2.Nusrat devoted his life for Punjabi sufi music and Punjabi songs,than why Nusrat s name should not be written Shahmukhi Punjabi?.3.Punjabi is punjabi! name in Gurumukhi script is secondary matter,of course it should be added along with shahmukhi.4.User Sarabseth should encourage name written in Shahmukhai rather than deletion becouse Nusrat and Shahmukhi script can not be parted.5.plz any one write in Gurumukhi also.Shemaroo (talk) 16:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
The Hamza Yusuf page says he's sunni, but the Sufism [2] page says he's Sufi. Could you clarify please? Someone65 (talk) 02:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi brother, I was updating the article on Ali Hujwiri from past few days. Even I spent more than 14 hours last night on this article. Full name in English & Farsi in the info box is basic part of that info box . In the section Lineage & Respect of Sufis towards Ali Hujwiri text in Farsi is necessary for the exact pronunciation of the names and verses otherwise it changes the meaning of those words. If you do not agree to some part you can discuss it with me. Sani0346 (talk) 16:21, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Just because it is on one album it does not mean that is his correct name. Here are a few sources to show that Rahat Fateh Ali Khan's name is actually without "Nusrat" including track listings and his best of album(2010 release). Here is a recent article (2011) from Express Tribune which gives his name simply as Rahat Fateh Ali Khan - Rahat Fateh Ali rules Bollywood. Here is a track listing for a Bollywood album (on amazon): Love aaj kal another cd track listing: Soulful Sufi and here is the album cover of his compilation of Rahat The very best of Rahat Fateh Ali Khan released in July 2010!! Rzafar (talk) 18:22, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Sarabseth. Re-sorting categories in alphabetically order on Harmonium seems to be odd and inconvenient for readers who know about harmonium.
For example, instrument classification categories such as:
follow widely accepted Musical instrument classification systems (Note:at least three different classification systems are complementary coexistent on Wikipedia category). If these categories are grouped on sequence of categories (i.e. placed on top or tail), readers are comfortably navigated to hierarchy of instrument family.
On the other hands, ethnic music categories such as
seem to be Indian subcontinent POV, because harmonium is widely used around the world.
Your alphabetic sorting ignore the difference of these two groups of category, and result seems to be inconvenient. You should admit the limit of your way. --Clusternote (talk) 04:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
I have a request for you. Could you help to fix the article on Pankaj Mullick?
Thanks,
GhanaDa (talk) 23:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Recently i found that Nusrat Ji's wikiquotes page was marked for cleanup... Ihave tried to improve it myself.. but would request you to give a helping hand.Please consider this request. I firmly believe that your vast information in this field can let this page survive.Thanks in adavnce. AvnishIT (talk) 08:05, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
--124.123.105.151 (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)I want to know were r u from. u seem to be showing so keen interest in ateeq hussain khan's page any particular reason sir.--124.123.105.151 (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
--124.123.105.151 (talk) 20:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC) My dear friend plz take this in a positive way if you are a really qawwali fan as told by you then why you quote so and so artist is ordinary. A good fan always provide encouragement and to criticize anybody without actual facts is not good. I mean to say if you are a big fan of nusrath it does not mean that other qawwali listeners can't be fan of other qawwal's. plz understand that talent is not on the same level for every artist but variety of talent should be there. plz dont take any offence from a qawwali fan.--124.123.105.151 (talk) 20:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
--124.123.105.151 (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC) dear sarabseth I feel really nice to say that it is through your knowledge and efforts many wikipedia article are in great form. I know you certainly hate puffery but I thank you for refining some articles and I agree with your corrections. plz carry on the good work thank q.--124.123.105.151 (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
--124.123.105.151 (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC) dear sarabseth I feel really nice to say that it is through your knowledge and efforts many wikipedia article are in great form. I know you certainly hate puffery but I thank you for refining some articles and I agree with your corrections. plz carry on the good work thank q.--124.123.105.151 (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
--124.123.105.151 (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC) dear sarabseth I feel really nice to say that it is through your knowledge and efforts many wikipedia article are in great form. I know you certainly hate puffery but I thank you for refining some articles and I agree with your corrections. plz carry on the good work thank q.--124.123.105.151 (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
--Ssabdulhaq (talk) 17:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)why are you removing citation of the book jashn-e-dilli which has a summary on ateeq hussain khan. if u want proof i can send the book. and even you can see the online image on www.qawwal.in/Media.html here in this book by cultural department of Delhi has praise Ateeq hussain khan Bandanawazi as the Deyon of Sufiana Qawwali. You say he is not a notable Qawwal then let me know for you what is the conditon for notability. plz take this in good faith and let me know what proof you want and i can certainly forward news paper cuttings of those news papers which have poraised the bandanawazi qawwals. let us reach some conclussion on this matter. You can anytime reach me on my mail ssabdulhaq@GMAIL.COM. yOU ONLY ACCEPTED THAT Bandanawzi Qawwal are famous only in Hyderabad then how come the Maharashtra Government awarding them and whyt are they performing at common wealth Games.--Ssabdulhaq (talk) 17:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
As you suggested, I've AFD'd the article here.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:44, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Its not wise and advisable to use the word 'Guys' for the saints who are no more, as you did in the edit summary of the page Sufism. They night not be known or renowned to you. But disrespect is unacceptable. Wasifwasif (talk) 18:36, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
i am impressed by your Concept of love for Qawwalis & Sufi Music..
Can i have your e-mail id
Hi there, May you look into this articele Warsi Brothers, I am sure there can be lot to be written on them. The problem is, I could find the references in urdu. If you may improve it will be a great help, Regards.--Omer123hussain (talk) 20:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Sarabseth, I've added to the discussion at Bulleh Shah. Please take a look. Regards basalisk (talk) 11:03, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi again. Sorry about the messed-up revert on this article, meant to remove it all and somehow ended up re-instating it. Was just wondering at what point we should consider taking this back to the admin who protected the page last time? Basalisk inspect damage⁄berate 10:31, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi there, if you take a look at the sentence you just reverted on this article, it now makes no sense. I reinstated the bit about Sikh gurus using his poetry because a previous editor removed it without explanation. I've reverted it again because I assume you made a mistake, but if you disagree then go ahead and revert it once more and I won't touch it. Regards Basalisk inspect damage⁄berate 11:52, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi Sarabseth! I see you reverted my edit on Aziz Mian. I had removed Category:Sufi music because it appears to be redundant. The article already has Category:Pakistani qawwali singers, which is a sub-category of Category:Performers of Sufi music, which is a sub-category of Category:Sufi music. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 05:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
sir, I want to establish that he truly is notable qawwal and for this I want to present facts to certain my claim in this regard I require your help. What is actually required to be presented to prove my case plz let me know . Morever Bandanawazi qawwal ustad amjad ali khan was raj durbari gayak of gwalior and he was entitled Faqr-e-Hind by nizam of hyderabad. The bandanawazi also awarded sangeet prabhakar award by chief minister of andhra pradesh. they were also awarded central zone award by govt of Maharashtra. Recieve nomination for Padma Sree for classical qawwali singing. I may be not presenting my case well so finally i am requesting you to plz provide me requirement of evidence that bandanawazi qawwal recieved recognition for good qawwali singing. I can mail you photos of awards recieved which are already there on thier website. www.qawwal.in I understand your good concern. plz oblige — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.123.121.199 (talk) 11:41, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Salam,
I noticed that you are using a nastaliq font in some articles. Which one are you using and from where may I obtain it? Jemiljan (talk) 17:46, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Regarding this edit, how do you think WP:ALLEGED relates here? Basalisk inspect damage⁄berate 19:25, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
i need ur email address plz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.123.100.65 (talk) 18:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Actually, the template Islamic culture is collapsed, but the image part is visible for some reason I don't know. I collapsed all the three templates, because when I included the only relevant media file on the page, they were disturbing the layout of the page and reducing the readability. Most articles don't have such a problem, because either they have only 1-2 sidebar templates, or their size is long enough to allow more than 2 sidebar templates. If you can adjust the location of the templates to make sure that they don't disturb the article flow/layout while making them uncollapsed, please go ahead. Another alternative would be to include (only) the music genres in the template Template:South Asian Music. utcursch | talk 12:44, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I want to constribute 1000$ to you for adding name in current qawwal list of my favourite qawwal certainly a right candidate. I can offer huge amount to you for helping me in my regard u can email me at videoshooterz@gmail.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.123.100.65 (talk) 11:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Your source for Muhammed al-Ahari is not a reliable source (effectively a forum). Please find a reliable source or do not use that paragraph. Please see wp:rs and wp:citing sources. Such usage might be construed a violation of wp:blp. Also, please be civil. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 05:47, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, Today I would likely apply Hyderabadi Haleem for the good article nomination, Please update if you have any concerns to improve/expand the article, Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 09:32, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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With reference to your action of: (Undid revision 526867191 by Faizanal-badri (talk) already in article, not necessary in infobox) at Bulleh Shah Bro, as you know i added "Now Pakistan", for the places of birth and death of Baba Bulleh Shah, and you removed them with the reason of "not necessary", if its not necessary then for every page in the Wikipedia, it should be like that, but its not!
Regards, FaizanAl-Badri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faizanal-badri (talk • contribs) 11:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Regarding removal of Ahmad al-Ghumari and Abdullah al-Ghumari from the Sufism article: I think it might be a bit of a semantic issue. Both of them are in the categories for Muslim scholars, and their Sufi tariqa - Siddiqi, which is a branch of Shadhili - is named after their family. Their nasab is Ibn Muhammad Ibn al-Siddiq. If you prefer that this be directly reflected in the lead then no problem, and perhaps they are not as known to practitioners of Sufism in India/Pakistan, but per the citations found on Sufi websites around the web (not all are included in the articles for these individuals for various reasons), I am sure you will find that they are respected scholars of Sufism in addition to hadith. Additionally, I will soon be creating a Wikipedia page for their Siddiqiyya order, which has already been listed in red type on the list of Sufi orders but I suppose noone has taken the time to create such an article yet. I'm looking for feedback here as I want to improve the articles for these individuals. If their status within Moroccan Sufism isn't clear from the articles, then your feedback can help change that. MezzoMezzo (talk) 12:52, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
If you get the time, could you also check out the talk page for Template:Sufism? I feel the template is a bit bloated and unsightly, and contradictory in that under the list for "notable" Sufis, they don't just include the most notable but seemingly every Sufi with a page on Wikipedia. I would like to see if more than just myself feels this way. MezzoMezzo (talk) 11:03, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
here?
Don't know enough to answer that; sorry! --Sarabseth (talk) 05:40, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Please help in resolving in recent edit wars on intro lines of NFAK, check the page history for details AvnishIT (talk) 01:49, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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