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Looks like an interesting case, will try and spare a bit of time tomorrow on it. I think that the spirit country edits can wait whilst I spend a bit of time with Vika & Linda, beats arguing with Ceasars Palace.Dan arndt (talk) 13:01, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Thought that this might interest you as well - Chris Murphy... Dan arndt (talk) 07:08, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Must be a psychic connection - just went and saw H&C on Sunday night, Day on the Green performance and was thinking that there should be articles for all their albums only to find that you had already started there. Will see what I can add.Dan arndt (talk) 03:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Unnatural Selection was the second CD released with Natural Selection in 2003 however it was subsequently released as a separate CD. It was a collection of B-sides and rarities. Dan arndt (talk) 11:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Got bored and started The Jaws of Life without you - it's just the bare bones - left a few blanks to get back to later.Dan arndt (talk) 04:35, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Where to now? I was thinking that most of the album articles are basically stubs and need to be upgraded... might be a good starting point. I'm guessing that the long term aim might be to get H&C to GA status and maybe H&C discography to FL status - like our work on PK? Dan arndt (talk) 09:26, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Thought we might Cut through all this recent interference - what say you? Dan arndt (talk) 09:30, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Great minds think alike - time for the Demons to bloom.... Dan arndt (talk) 03:07, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
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My goodness, the rock legends are passing too quickly. Might we expect some of your excellent work on Jim Keays as well? Regards, WWGB (talk) 05:16, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
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You’re not linking to the ARIA charts. You’re linking to http://www.aria.com.au/pages/aria-charts.htm. Could you please link to the correct chart? Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:50, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. At least one of your recent edits, such as the edit you made to Shout God's Fame, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at the welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make some test edits, please use the sandbox for that. Stop de-proding articles just because they're mentioned on AllMusic. Read WP:NALBUMS. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:56, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
This is a user-reviewed entry and as such does not lend itself to confirm notability. This is a staff-reviewed entry and does lend itself to confirm notability. If you continue to de-PROD for user-reviewed articles, I will simply continue to take them to AfD. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:13, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
It is your right to PROD over 50 Hillsong-related articles, almost simultaneously. Some of those articles required little research to find sufficient sources to establish their notability; however others may require more time and effort to find such sources. I have read wp:nalbums and understand the requirements to establish notability.
In what way was my edit at Shout God's Fame disruptive editing? I supplied a reference to establish the existence of the subject of the article, I removed the dePROD to gain sufficient time to research for more sources to further support a claim of notability for that article.
If I had left the PROD then the article would be automatically deleted without any effort made to determine its notability. Similarly if I had made no effort other Hillsong-related articles which you had PRODed would likely be deleted automatically too.
If I find any other articles mentioned by AllMusic then I will dePROD them too. Instead of giving an interested editor sufficient time to collect sources to improve those articles you have immediately moved to AfD: that, again, is your right. I believe that I have the right to dePROD articles while attempting to find sources for them.
My search may prove fruitless, but wp is improved by the attempt. Articles which otherwise were poorly sourced and now better sourced. Articles which may have been automatically deleted will now require further examination from more editors. Some may even be saved from AfD, I don't believe this to be a waste of my time otherwise I wouldn't be doing so.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:35, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
If you want to get us to keep these albums you will have to prove it, just as I did with The White Album (Hillsong United album), which is done as I spelled out. So, you need at least three independent reviews or you need charts for each album to prove notability.HotHat (talk) 11:10, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Even one source can be enough to prevent deletion, especially if it seems that there might be another source out there, or the album charted or is close to meeting other criteria for notability.--¿3family6 contribs 19:10, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
See WP:CCM/S for a list of reliable sources you can check.--¿3family6 contribs 01:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Your recent research on these albums have been absolutely amazing! Thank you! Jair Crawford (talk) 03:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
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The "Australian rock" article needs a lot of help. It suffers form a severe lack of sourcing and the stylistics could be improved a good bit. Nonetheless, it is commendable in its scope and breadth--it has a lot of helpful information, and no doubt, has the potential to become a great article. Another editor recommended you to help out on that site. Would you be interested? Garagepunk66 (talk) 04:43, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
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Let me begin by saying "thank you" for all of your help in finding references and sources for the Australian rock article. I thought I might ask your opinion on a couple of issues that I have brought up on the talk page of that article. See the "Need to eliminate irrelevant material form 'Second wave' section" thread. Rather than respond here, you can put your comments there. I think that you will agree, that, in the "Second wave section," there is way too much discussion about non-music subjects and it dilutes the section's effectiveness:
What ends up happing is that the reader trying to learn about the music becomes distracted and bored by all of this superfluous stuff. The focus, here, should be on the music and its creators, not critics, record companies and the like. We need to make this section interesting and exciting for the rock and roll fan or person of casual interest to read--a few editors expressed this same wish in another talk thread on the same page. We should address this incredible beat boom/garage rock phenomenon that took place--and it was huge. It was historically significant--probably the largest and, debatably, most important rock explosion that ever took place in Australia (and could hold a candle with any other country, anywhere, at any time), yet the article makes the period (after mention of the British bands' visits) sound dull.
One reason I put the discussion of the garage thing above the laundry list of names of bands was to get straight to the thematic gist of the period--which is absolutely key to its understanding (most of the bands of this were rock and roll--a lot less pop than the Bee Gees, so I made a transition, so that the reader doesn't get the false impression that this was a lightweight period). The book by Marks and McIntyre stresses the garage phenomenon in Australia and New Zealand and its fundamental importance--essential reading. People will be surprised to find out that much of what later bands such as the Saints were doing was infuenced by this period.
If we were to place the "garage" paragraph back where I placed it, then we could remove the red-letter bands (they do undermine the importance of this paragraph). Some of the famous bands in the "laundry list" paragraph were hard-rocking garage rock. So we could transfer their names into the garage paragraph, thus justifying its priority location. Then, we could create an interesting discussion of many of the bands and artists listed. Rather than merely list them, we could create an interesting and compelling narrative, replete with historical facts and anecdotes about the bands and their music. Tell me what you think. Garagepunk66 (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you so much for all of your tireless work in sourcing the Australian rock article. Garagepunk66 (talk) 20:58, 10 July 2014 (UTC) |
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Thank you for helping me resolve the edit problem at my talk page and for archiving it. Another barnstar for you!!! Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:12, 11 July 2014 (UTC) |
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I LOVE what you're doing with the Geoff Bullock article. Just wanted to thank you personally for your research and edits there. If you want, I can help you with information for a discography section for that article. Just let me know. Jair Crawford (talk) 16:34, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
I'd love to but I've never edited an article that extensively before. I'm not familiar enough with the syntax to start a discography section. I can do some research on albums though. Jair Crawford (talk) 05:47, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
The Little River Band article appears to be a place that you never visit; and, boy, does it show. Unlike the articles that you have edited, you could fire a shotty at this article, and not hit a citation. Could be bad for your monitor! Maybe you really hate that band, or you are just too (edit) busy. Anyway, they really need you, even if you don't need them.
I intend to re-write the second half of the lead, and your input will be requested at a couple of points in the process. Feezo is on board, as you already know, so rest assured the resulting content will be impressive by the end of the process. My continued respect to you for your (many) good points. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 20:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Been busy lately. I'll still help out with the Geoff Bullock discography though when I can. I haven't forgotten. Jair Crawford (talk) 05:38, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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Listen, mate, your entry at Feezo's talk page contains a nasty typo. You might want to fix that. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 23:59, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
If you want to write a DYK for this, I could request an early close as keep of the AfD. Looks like you could still get it in on time and you did plenty of work on the expansion. Gaff (talk) 04:24, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
I was hoping that I might get some of your expert assistance in a musical matter. Recently an editor has been placing notability tags on almost all the releases by Jebediah and End of Fashion (as well as some of The Vines), together with Soulparadox we have removed them, as they weren't really justified however having a look at the articles they are fairly brief and could do with some expanding/referencing. Was wanting to know whether you were interested in dropping by and giving a hand (like old times). Dan arndt (talk) 02:42, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
hi, I've started a Facebook group to see if others would like to edit WP articles for female artists and musicians. just wondering if you'd be interested in joining it or OK if I asked some questions to clarify answers that may arise. a few people have expressed interest already. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403867353243376/ is the group page. thanks (I can ask in one of the WP women pages if you're busy, so no worries if you don't have the time/bandwidth. cheers. Kathodonnell (talk) 04:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello. I hope this makes sense:
I've just researched and written about this record here: http://www.poparchives.com.au/2665/johnny-farnham-allison-durbin/softly-whispering-i-love-you
(My website also hosts Barry Mackay's Go-set chart pages at http://www.poparchives.com.au/gosetcharts)
The first feedback I got about it was from an Allison Durbin fanatic and collector who couldn't recall or find the record.
Strange thing is that now I can't find any trace of this record either, apart from (1) the Go-set charts (2) the "Together" album page (also mentioned under the entry for the song). It doesn't appear on any other Australian charts or discographies that I have access to.
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There's a claim on PK's talk page that the lead has been plagiarised from another website. My thoughts are that it is the otherwise around but thought you might want to check, otherwise it could affect the article's GA status.... Dan arndt (talk) 12:21, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Ok, In answer to your questions (to the best of my ability):
Dan arndt (talk) 12:21, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
That's an interesting question. As far as I can see there doesn't seem to be any apparent connection between Reg Presley and Jebediah. The Troggs or Presley don't appear to have been in Australia in early 1997 (when "Invader" was likely to have been written). He would have been around 56 and the band members would have been only around 20. My only other thoughts are that maybe they used some of Presley's lyrics in the song and that it was away of acknowledging his input (unfortunately I can't find any songs by Presley called "Invader") or that there is simply no connection whatsoever.Dan arndt (talk) 03:27, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Made the executive decision - this was released as an EP not a single. Must have missed the move in May 2009. Just checked and the disambiguation page for Harpoon didn't even make mention of it ('shame'), so we'll just need to fix all the links everywhere to the new title.Dan arndt (talk) 05:10, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
According to this blog site "Buff Boy" reached #62 on the ARIA singles charts. Need to get this verified for inclusion. Dan arndt (talk) 04:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Just a quick comment - a rhythm guitar actually refers to a guitar playing technique as opposed to it being an actual instrument (i.e. an electric guitar can and often is played rhythmically). Dan arndt (talk) 07:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Have started the motion to rename the article back to Kevin... BTW I think that Familar Stranger should be titled Familar Stranger (Bob Evans album), which I know is confusing but it does relate to the name of the artist on the album title. Dan arndt (talk) 05:39, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm guessing that you feel that editor should have provided their sources for all that personal information. My guess is that the editor found all that information on the internet but was just too slack to cite their sources...but that's just a guess. Dan arndt (talk) 08:53, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
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hi, I've updated Mary Cecil Allen article. she's an Australian painter (though as it turns out, spent most of her adult life in America). not a music artist. are you able to give it a quick check. I think it can move from stub -> start now? but I've forgotten how to do this. is it just a matter of changing the tag on the talk page? (or let me know if there's somewhere else I should ask this) thanks. Kathodonnell (talk) 07:26, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Right now I'm spinning my wheels on the gyroscope - Mr Foley is keeping me busy. Dan arndt (talk) 01:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
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So which article do we start with first before Mr Foley decides to delete them all? Dan arndt (talk) 00:03, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
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I agree it is most likely that "Doctor Doctor" came from the EP Driving for the Storm / Doctor Doctor rather than Sound Shattering Sound. The indication is that the song didn't chart but did poll on the Hottest 100. I'm satisfied if you want to change the discography to reflect that. Looking at the article on Sound Shattering Sound its not indicated as being a single from that album. BTW I'm feeling conflicted as to whether to concentrate working on Gyroscope or Grinspoon (which do you want to collaborate on?). Dan arndt (talk) 05:47, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Where to start? There are so many related articles that need work - any suggestions... Dan arndt (talk) 04:37, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Thankyou for your edits at Jimmy Doyle, which were mostly very helpful. There is just one slightly delicate issue that I hope we can work through. Since Doyle had liver cancer in his final months, many have assumed that he died of liver cancer. He didn't. He suffered a haemorrhage in his esophagus, and was flown by air ambulance to hospital, but died four days later. I know this is completely OR, however I was hoping we could find a slightly different wording. At Jimmy Doyle article, I chose to avoid stating a cause of death deliberately to avoid this issue. We could change it back as one solution. Another is to state that Doyle "died of complications from liver cancer" which would be more accurate. Your discretion and cooperation in this matter would be appreciated. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 18:30, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
thanks, yes it seems like the photo is from Ivy's personal collection. I think someone blogged about it and used the pic, which was then used on her WP page. another editor added it (I noticed she adds pics to other articles too). I wasn't sure about the copyright permissions for the copy held by the NLA (Ivy's), so hadn't used it. I ordered her books but haven't read them yet (was offline for a while after having my appendix out unexpectedly). I saw that Anne Rees (who wrote one paper about MCA in the refs) is now studying her PhD on Australian artists in America at this period so I think she may write about MCA at some point in future. https://anu-au.academia.edu/AnneRees also, I'd be interested to see if TarraWarra have any info/works as they collected modern art at that time, I tried a quick search but couldn't find anything. I was thinking of contacting them to see if they can send me any links/info they might have. I've been adding some MCA info to my evernote, not sure if you can see this: https://www.evernote.com/pub/aliak77/marycecilallen Kathodonnell (talk) 07:07, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Sir, I have posted a complaint about your disruptive editing at Feezo's talk page, and I have requested his or another admin's attendance at that article. CaesarsPalaceDude 06:41, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
According to Richard Wilkins autobiography, Black Ties, Red Carpets, Green Rooms, he was responsible for signing the group to Sony Music. Dan arndt (talk) 05:29, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
You could use this [7] or [8] or [9]. None of which are particular great but you might be able to use something out of them.Dan arndt (talk) 03:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
I just noticed that the OHB have released a new album, their first in over 14 years. The article however is fairly poor and unreferenced. Dan arndt (talk) 07:16, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
His birth name is Stephen not Steven, according to school records (ORS) and any of the numerous dance programs, as well as book and magazine references. Dan arndt (talk) 01:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Are you aware that the Spectrum article is essentially an edited version of the Milesago entry. Even if we assume that Kimball, himself, is responsible for both versions, that still would be self-plagiarism and still a problem. Should I raise it at WikiProject: Australian music? I think it is about time someone tackled this, but I'm involved with other projects at the moment. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 02:57, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Did you note that Crowded House's List of Awards is being delisted, thought you & I might see what we can do to rectify this matter. Dan arndt (talk) 09:50, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Is having the appearance of CH's songs in the respective Hottest 100s really necessary or appropriate in this list? I think that there is already an overwhelming number of awards and award nominations without their inclusion. Your thoughts? Dan arndt (talk) 07:07, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
The infobox is missing both the Helpmann and EG Awards both of which were included in the overall total. Dan arndt (talk) 22:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm struggling to see what else we can do.... Dan arndt (talk) 13:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
All this research got me thinking - there was one other Aussie band that had a FL delisted and given the passage of time was it worth resurrecting the list back to its former status - what are your thoughts? Dan arndt (talk) 02:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
I definitely would include Canada, particularly given the 'Gold' record status As far as I can determine he prepared artwork for "Heavy Weight" but wasn't the video director. As New Crown was released digitally on Wolfmother's Bandcamp site, it is unlikely that it was ever released separately as a single. The only conclusive fact I can find is that they released a 'lo-fi' video for the song. Dan arndt (talk) 07:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Is there any other work that needs addressing? If not then I guess we wait for the GoCE to review and undertake any c/e before we lodge...? Dan arndt (talk) 02:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
I have nominated Ayers Rock (band) for GA review, and entered a note re your co-nomination. Thanks for expressing our gratitude to Minneapolis. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 23:34, 11 July 2015 (UTC)