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User:Zero0000 is trying to push his WP:POV and WP:OR to slur the group in a non wikipedian fashion. Amoruso 05:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
The recently created article Eric Szulczewski doesn't seem to have enough information to be useful to the Wikipedia community, and it seems that such a person doesn't exist. I'm not sure what to do about this, as I know it's not vandalism, but it's not helpful either. Do you think you could deal with this? (by the way, the reason I'm asking you is because I believe you are a sysop) Thanks, Ruff Bark away!
Thank you for the help. I'm not quite sure what you mean by saying I should stop clearing my talk page. If you really want to, you can look at my archive, but I sure wouldn't if I were you . Ruff Bark away! 22:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Do you have any idea of how I can clear my browser cache? I keep trying to sign stuff and it ends up with my IP on it instead. AAARRRGGG! Ruff Bark away!
Ctrl-F5 Iorek85 04:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry! I didn't see your comment (the guy below you posted at a similar time, so when I woke up, I say his comment instead of checking the diff. I wasn't ignoring you, I swear! Yes, downers comments make it somewhat notable, but he only got his info from the zombietime (and yeah, it scares the shit out of me that the foreign minister of my country gets his information from a conspiracy blog). The problem is, if we add it, then we add the refutation as well, and we end up with "a blog claimed the ambualnce attacks were hoaxed, but the red cross and the media involved refuted this." which doesn't say, anything at all, really. Not to mention that zombietime, I don't think, can be considered a reliable source. Again, sorry for taking so long to reply. Iorek85 04:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, can you please help changing/removing the pie chart from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict (if it will be returned after my edit) Also check out the discussion there. 83.130.97.111 17:10, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Deleting well-referenced and relevant information does not make an article "more neutral". In the diff I quoted in the 2006 Israel Lebanon war talk page you deleted the info that Israel attacked civilian cars fleeing the south. This is a well known fact (see here). It's also highly relevant addition to the Target in civilian areas section in the paragraph that speaks about Israel's leaflets warning the civilian population to flee the area. Finally the wording I use is taken from a letter sent by a well-respected Israeli organization, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, to the PM of Israel so one can't allege that it displays an anti-Israeli bias, as sometimes happens when an editor contributes info that is critical of Israel government action.
As for having my email address in plaintext in my userpage I don't care - it's already in the open; but thanks for the warning anyway. Dianelos 08:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Tewfik, thank you for your welcome. I've decided to stay ;) To stay better, I'll check the suggested links.
Regards
Lquiroga 22:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Casualties of the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.
Carbonate 11:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I didn't know that this page (the israeli-lebanese conflict) is your personal property. Anyway, it is a job well-done. Keep the property in good shape and good luck.
Azizi Tewfik, If I may clarify, I would like to say that the Israeli-Lebanese coflict page is very neutral in my opinion and I thank you for this. Good job and keep up the good work.
Marwan123
Thank you, Tewfik, for voting on my RFA, which passed 95 to 1. Now that I have the mop, I hope I can live up to the standard, and be a good administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. —this is messedrocker
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21:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the Hebrew translation tweaks --Cat out 14:36, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Tewfik, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful last Wednesday with a unanimous support of (47/0/0). I will do my best to help keep Wikipedia clean, green and vandal free. Once again, thank you! --Konstable 14:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC) |
Thank you for participating in my RfA. Consensus to promote was reached, and I am now an administrator. I'll be using the tools cautiously at first, and everyone should feel welcome to peer over my shoulder and make sure I'm not doing anything foolish. --RobthTalk 04:12, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello. You may or may not remember this, but some time ago you signed up for a Hangman Tournament hosted here on Wikipedia. The next tournament is about to start, and I was just wondering if you were still interested in participating. If you are, please go to the page (linked above) and bold your name in the sign-up list. This will confirm your registration. If you are not interested any more, please feel free to remove your name from the list. If you haven't responded within 7 days, I will assume you are not interested, and remove you from the list.
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What's the problem with this quote? -- Kendrick7 16:00, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
I never mentioned wanting avoid any ideas. The long version we could probably agree on, for a reader who has no idea about the topic is, I would suppose would go:
That would hit all the high notes in sumarizing the background sections of the article and all relevant immigrations from 1948-1975, but way too much is occuring before the "ultimately" which is the more important part of the sentence. -- Kendrick7 19:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Then the article on the Lebanonese Civil war is internally inconsistant. It implies LNM was calling for a new census in 1969, which was a year or two before the Jordanian explulsion, a new census which they believe would cause the constitution of Lebanon to be rewritten. It implies that ongoing birthrate demographic trends would have eventually resulted in a majority Muslim, minority Maronite nation, which perhaps would have caused a war ultimately anyway. And there is certaintly the implication that the Druze and the Lebanese Arabs regarded the PLO's defacto state in the south of the country with jealousy while they themselves were being ruled by Maronites.
This article in no way purports to be a survey of the causes of the Lebanese Civil war, and this part of the lead is merely trying summarize the background section and to suggest how things got to the point where, further on in the lead, Israel found itself with "a troublesome border with various forces calling for the destruction of their nation, and coordinating attacks against it" -- Kendrick7 21:01, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Because Palestians fled to Lebanon as early as 1948, as detailed in Israel-Lebanon conflict under the section "1948 Arab-Israeli and aftermath". -- Kendrick7 18:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for participating in my RFA, which closed successfully today with a result of (50/3/0). If you have any further questions or suggestions, feel free to write me. I hope I will live up to your trust. Michael 01:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC) |
I just meant to revert the changes made by "Ender higgins" and not any subsequent changes. I will be grateful if you fix my damage. --Gabi S. 20:27, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey Tewfik, thank you for supporting my recent RfA. It finished with an amazing final tally of 160/4/1. I really appreciate your support. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 07:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
In case you did not notice, I posed some questions for you over at Talk:2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict, in addition to those you still refuse to answer. Don't you think it would be appropriate to cooperate and comment on these instead of just undoing all of my edits in one of your usual revert orgies? Thanks. Kosmopolis 02:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
why are you so Israeli-sided? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nielswik (talk • contribs)
Hi, Tewfik, and thanks for supporting me in my recent request for adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of 70/4/4. I hope I can live up to your expectations, and if there's ever anything you need, you know where to find me! --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 00:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC) |
We're still talking past eachother on the lead sentence Tewfik -- it vaguely looks like you want a citation that the Palestinian exodus occured in 1948, and I'm nearly positive that's not what you want. Maybe you want to just put a "disputed" tag at the end of the sentence, and we can discuss it on the Talk:Israel-Lebanon conflict. -- Kendrick7
Tewfik - thanks for your comments at my talk page. They were reassuring! Valtam 16:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Couldn't agree more. I was planning on shortening the 'attacks in civilian areas' as it's huge, and it already has a subarticle. I haven't got around to it yet since I'm writing a Uni essay over the next few days. I might have some time to look at it in more detail and maybe clean it up tonight. The 'post-ceasefire' section should be at the bottom of the article, and safely can be called 'post conflict' now, since it is well and truly over. Good luck - I've no doubt any edits you make will be branded pro-Israeli by someone, though. :(
Hey. I thought you might be interested in this article. Also, it says 850 Lebanese have been killed in the war, which contradicts the numbers on the site. [1]
You noticed that I tried to get rid of the sub-subs. Instead of sabotaging my attempts again, maybe you'd like to propose a better idea how to make them manageable? Kosmopolis (talk) 20:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Tewfik, I guess it is about time to work out a resolution for our recurring differences. I have edited our article again. Please look at the talk page before reverting. I also introduced some new and non-controversial tweaks and refs. I have done my best to carefully balance the targeting section; all I ever intended was to untangle the spaghetti quoting. The background issue is solved, now, and the rest are only isolated issues, which we should be able to work out somehow. Given these circumstances, maybe I can convince you that retracting the 3RR report is in both our interests. Obviously, we are both very persistent, so this might seem difficult, but I do hope that we can get to a reasonable solution or compromise, making this more fun and less tedious for both of us. Cheers. Kosmopolis (talk) 14:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I think I immediately understood your meaning. I didn't get the impression many Israeli soldiers died between 2000 and 2006, but then I haven't been paying much attention. Anyway, I kept looking at it and decided you spelt it wrong. Then I was shocked to discover it isn't even a word. m-w.com would suggest you meant attritional, and I imagine you combined this with attrocious? -- Kendrick7 07:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Could you clarify whether your reversion was meant to remove the vandalism or to reinstate the Al-Manar report? Thanks, TewfikTalk 04:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
If you want to mention the PLO, then you need to mention the refugee situation to provide complete context. Otherwise it paints an incomplete picture of the reality on the ground. My last edit is the only compromise I can imagine us making -- Kendrick7 07:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking of some alternative backgrounds: "In 2006, the Hezbollah Shi'ite were a peaceful, goat and fireworks loving people, dwelling south of the slopes of Mount Lebanon, and enjoying the bloom of the June cedars. But little did they know, Iran had secretly and slowly been replacing their bottle rockets with Katyushas." No? Too POV? -- Kendrick7 07:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
As for the background for Israel-Lebanon conflict, as much of the troubles involved Palestinians, to not mention in the lead somehow, even in passing, what the Palestians were fighting for would be POV, a sin by ommision. There is no cabal. -- Kendrick7 07:43, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
you wrote : Please review the policy about reliable sources: Widely acknowledged extremist or even terrorist groups, whether of a political, religious, racist, or other character, should never be used as sources for Wikipedia, except as primary sources, that is to say they may be used in articles discussing the opinions of that organization. Even then they should be used with great caution, and should be supported by other sources.
Even if some country considered Haaretz or Yediot to be terrorist organisations (and none do as far as I know), they would still not be widely acknowledged as such. Hezbollah and Al-Manar are. TewfikTalk 15:21, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Please consider reverting these back. As for Siniora, I did not fight any mention of his speech, where is it ? I think the crying is an indication that Lebanon might not have won... I didn't find any mention of this speech. As for the stones, the violation is the fact that it was right on the fence on Israeli jeeps. Amoruso 05:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Also why were these dropped ? [2] . It's misleading to think that Hezbollah simply fought for the end of "occupation in lebanon" and these are significant events, the terrorist acts. Amoruso 05:14, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi! I noticed your entry on the "Requested Moves" page, and thought I should point out to you the bias in the title 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict. Firstly, the conflict was between Israel and the Islamofascist group Hezbollah, not between Israel and Lebanon. Secondly, the Islamofascists were the ones who started the whole thing by kidnapping innocent Israelis, so the word "Hezbollah" should come before "Israel". I propose the title be changed to "2006 Hezbollah-Israel conflict". Kindly do the needful. Thanks. Cerebral Warrior 10:59, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Tewfik. Thanks for your additions to the Jisr Al-Zarqa article. One thing though ... on the issue of transliteration of the name in Arabic. Standard transliteration uses the literal form of the word, which when written appears as Al-Zarqa. It is true that it is pronounced az-Zarqa, but that is not the correct transliteration of the word into English. Would you mind moving the page back to its original title? I would appreciate you doing it since I don't know how to. Thanks. Tiamut 20:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed on the page David Weiss Halivni that the last edit was you who "rescued fair use image". Firstly, the image is gone, but I was wondering how I (the uploader of the image) could have declared it a fair use image. He was a professor of mine and I got it originally from an article about him. I uploaded the picture on two occasions. The first was actually my very first contribution to wikipedia with a username and I therefore didn't know about wiki copyrights. The second time I uploaded it, I couldn't find a proper category for the copyright. How would I be able to classify this as a fair use image? Thanks, Valley2city 18:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC).
You can shorten it up then why you decided to delet it all together? --- ابراهيم 21:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your support in my RfA, which passed on October 17, 2006 with a tally of 53/6/0. I am equally elated and humbled by my new capacity as administrator of Wikipedia, and I send my heartfelt thanks for your unflinching support. If you need me for anything, just ask me! With gratitude, 210physicq (c) 04:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC) |
I found a source, hopefully i can get more. [3] I wanted to see if we could incorporate it into the 2006 Israel-Lebanon article. When the conflict first started i read on yahoo! and other sites (of course i cant find it now) how christian areas had been almost untouched, that hezbollah fighters and rocket launchers had been hiding in muslim (predominantly shi'a) neighborhoods. This site says "Shiite Muslims have been streaming into the town and other Christian areas seeking safe haven". Also, there has been much christian opposition to hezbollah [4], im sure you know but i havent seen much of it in the article if at all. --Shamir1 05:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Tewfik! Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which succeeded with a final tally of 75/0/1! I hope I can live up to the standards of adminship, and I will try my best to make Wikipedia a better place. Feel free to send me a message if you need any assistance. :) |
--Coredesat 16:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
My administratorship candidacy succeeded with a final tally of 81/0/1. I appreciate your support. Results are at Wikipedia:Recently_created_admins#Durova. Warmly, Durova 21:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Tewfik, thanks for your support on my request for adminship.
The final outcome was a robust 62/1/1, so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any questions about my actions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Hi, I see you get into trouble[5]. Do you know today is International Day of Quds.--Sa.vakilian 05:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to know your attitude about Islam exactly. So please help me if you would like. As I know this two religions have the most similarities among the others. You may think that Rasool Allah/Muhammad has derivated Islam from Judaism and we think some of you know him as the real prophet as written in the real Torat but don't confess. I wanted to know if there is any Jew who beleive that Muhammad is the massanger of The God like Moses but don't accept Islam. For example because he or she believe that Judaism hasn't been abrogated by God.--Sa.vakilian 11:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
"العقل ما عبد به الرحمن و اكتسب به الجنان" Please read this:[7] and [8]--Sa.vakilian 19:34, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Tewfik/Archive 5. You may or may not remember signing up for the Wikipedia Hangman Tournament, but the time has finally arrived for you to start your game! You have until 12:41, 33 August 2024 (UTC) to begin your game by typing ((Wikipedia:WikiHangman Tournament/New|~~~~)) on the corresponding round page. You should also visit your match page, as you will be able to see various aspects of your match.
I would also suggest:
If you have any questions at all regarding the procedures and rules of this tournament, please feel free to contact me at my talk page. Thanks again, and good luck!
In case you are wondering why it took so long to begin this tournament, my computer was not operating correctly, and my Internet usage was limited to public computers. My opportunities to use public computers were limited, so needless to say, I didn't have a lot of time to commit to Wikipedia. So, sorry if this has caused you any inconvience. Good luck! If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 02:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget to edit your Hangman game so that you have the correct amount of letter blanks. Edit the "word =" part, adding "."s for letters. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 16:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
WP:WHMT I am the person you playing in the first round so i started my game i already a word pick so anytime you want pick yours so we can start guessing each other words ok just leave a meassage on my talk page when you want to start ok —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oo7565 (talk • contribs)
i started my game i been waiting for you to start yours so please doOo7565 08:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I blocked him for 10 days per WP:AN/I. RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 20:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, but the abstract says "was described by the UN human rights chief Wednesday as having the potential to result in charges of "war crimes"", which I think has to be a violation of the convention. However, I've just realised the person making the statement is from the U.N, not Lebanon. I'm sure he's right, but I was waiting for him to give the reference. I notice he's blocked for a while, so I might have a go at finding a more accurate reference in a little while for him. Iorek85 06:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm glad I was able to interest you! That's part of my mission on this planet, to provide interesting ideas. Anyway, I have two responses to this:
So what's to be done? Keep in mind that 1) the Hamas article does have a category "Designated Terrorist Organizations", 2) the word "neighbourhood" has political connotations just like "settlement", and 3) the dispute over the word "settlement" (itself a compromise neutral term) is not anywhere is intense as that over "terrorist". I would much rather keep "terrorist" in other articles if it means keeping "settlement" here, instead of having them both removed. This, despite the fact that the two situations are not comparable. Ramallite (talk) 14:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Kendrick7 & Nielswik are back adding Al-Manar as a source. I thought we wer through this before... Isarig 04:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for participating in my recent RfA. Unfortunately consensus was not reached, and the nomination was not successful. However, I appreciate that you took the time to comment, and I did pay close attention to your thoughts, as I find it a valuable thing to understand how I am perceived by others in the Wikipedia community. Though the RfA was unsuccessful, I intend to continue contributing in a positive manner to Wikipedia, and if there is anything that I can do in the future to help further address your concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me. --Elonka 10:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Take a look at the section and the talk page and offer comments if you want. --Daniel575 | (talk) 20:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Tewfik! Long time no see! Hope you're doing well.
What i don't fathom is that everytime such an issue is being debated a huge fuss is being made out of it. Mostly, there are political arguments that are contrasted w/ reason. Let's have a look at Category:Palestine. What's in there? I am afraid that the category covers and goes beyond the Palestinian Authority. So what's the diff between the cat and its related stub? -- Szvest 09:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing my attention to the discussion. I did comment there. Is n't there any way to create lists as lists but not as articles? --Thameen 09:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Tewfik, your opponent is waiting for you to play.
First, you need to go here and place periods between the "word=" and the "|", in order to let your opponent know how many letters your word is. For instance, if your word has five letters, you'd edit "word= .....|".
Next, you need to go here and make your move. To make your move, you want to type #((subst:guess|GUESSED LETTER|~~~~)) in the game log. Then you guys can get to playing. Good luck! └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 14:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
hey i been waiting for you to look at the letter i guess on your hangman and waiting for you to pick another for yours ok hopefully soon Oo7565 16:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Please accept my thanks for your support in my successful RfA, which I was gratified to learn passed without opposition on October 25, 2006. I am looking forward to serving as an administrator and hope that I prove worthy of your trust. With my best wishes, --MCB 16:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC) |
Thank you for supporting my RfA that I have passed with 73/2/1.--Jusjih 10:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there Tewfik. Would you mind coming to the Nazareth page to discuss your reversions at the Nazareth page. While you may have engaged in this kind of discussion before, I have not and would like to hear more of your reasoning for your reverts. In answer to your editing note, the name of the template is Palestinians (as in the a people known as Palestinians) and not the Palestinian territories (as you would have preferred). Therefore, appending it to the Nazareth article is perfectly legitimate. The entire town is Palestinian Arab, even if they live in the geographical entity known as Israel. Why should we deny readers an acquaintance with the history, culture and politics of the people who live there? To give you another example: let's say there is an article on the name of a native reservation in Canada. The template Canada would be there because that is the geographical location. The template Aboriginal Peoples or First Nations however, could also be placed there if it existed because the people there are of that national/cultural community. Would we fail to append the First Nations template because it might be viewed as making a claim to Canadian land? No. That would be quite ridiculous now wouldn't it? I await your comments on the talk page. Tiamut 20:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I very much appreciate your response to my withdrawal. I will take the time to read up more on the issues and Wikipedia's policies before I make any further moves.
Regards, Ariedartin JECJY Talk 16:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
It's really misleading for Muslims on Wikipedia and no, I'm not saying that it was intentional. BhaiSaab talk 04:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Could you put your comments on the new lead on this page? What do you think? Elizmr 13:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)