Nadia Abu El Haj redux[edit]
You need to see the article in today's New York Times. It's rich with details about Abu El-Haj, her background, and the tenure battle — and the fact that Paula Stern (who started the campaign against her tenure) lives in a Jewish colony on the West Bank. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 19:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Attempts to reduce the Arabic language status[edit]
A user known for his/her Anti-Arab agenda made it his/her mission to claim that all Arabic dialects are independent languages, starting with Egyptian Arabic dialect. Egyptian Arabic (Maṣrī مصري) is an Arabic dialect. has to be clearly emphasized in the Egyptian Arabic article
- The only language to branch out of Arabic is Maltese. Can you please help me organize these articles?.
Arabic dialect has to be clearly added in the infobox an openning sentence so it dont get confused as a language!--Skatewalk 20:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you[edit]
Dear Tiamut,
I had a look at your personal page, and I do really admire your work. I am planning to start translating the articles that u already prepared on Wikipedia English into arabic and to publish them on Wikipedia arabic, I might be needing your help every once in a while, and I even might need some references from you, can we work together to enrich Wikipedia Arabic with the kind of articles u usually write?
Thank you very much in advance
--Yamanam 09:11, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Jerusalem maps.[edit]
I have been compiling some external links to Jerusalem maps here: *Positions_on_Jerusalem#Jerusalem_maps
See also:
They may be useful in various discussions on article talk pages, etc.. I believe also that UN maps are in the public domain, and can be uploaded to the commons. I believe User:ChrisO negotiated that with the UN people. --Timeshifter 15:58, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, Tiamut, for the barnstar! There is more info on map resources, UN maps, copyright tags, etc. on my user page at User:Timeshifter#Map resources, and in the resources section at commons:Category:Maps.--Timeshifter 00:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I am also doing more researh about this subject, so it can be referenced. As of now the article is very vague reffering to the Egyptians as natives to the Nile valley, when its known that EGypt was settled by Syrian Semites (Hyksos~closely related to the Edomites), Nubians, Libyans, Greeks and pre-islamic Arabs (Ghassanids in Alexanderia, Banu Judham and Sacasik (Zaqaziq-Sharqiya) before Islam. Then the major influx of Muslim Arabs into Egypt 7th and 8th century.--Skatewalk 20:14, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
So we speak 22 languages?[edit]
Can you please help Zerida (and her sock-puppets) understand that Egyptian Arabic is a dialect (because now she is claiming that its a language!), I think she is already taking it personal! (Egyptian Arabic)I mean once they declare every dialect a Language I will have a beautiful resume with 22 languages on it, but as of now unfortunately the constituition of Egypt and every Arab nation only recognizes one Arabic language as the only Arabic language!--Skatewalk 18:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Allegations of Israeli apartheid[edit]
Hi Tiamut,
Thank you for your kind response, and yeah I am celebrating Ramdan; w enta bkhair ;-) Ramadan Kareem to u if u r celebrating Ramadan too... Sir, I have a small question, r u aware of the changes that have been made to the article Allegations of Israeli apartheid???
I thought that it is better that u have a look at it.
Thank you --Yamanam 09:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
DYK[edit]
--Carabinieri 12:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Kokua Needed - Again[edit]
Hi, it's me again! I hate to bother you yet again, but a formal Request for Comment has been made (by LarryQ)on the Legal status of Hawaii page surrounding the "Undue" issue, and those who were previously involved are being asked to comment. Since you were part of this discussion (and I feel an important part), could you please take a look? It's getting pretty heated, and I think that your thoughts would be helpful, as they have been fair and calming in the past. I respect that you are busy, but if you are able to look at the discussion, that would be great. Mahalo, & Aloha! --Laualoha 01:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Tegwarrior[edit]
I posted the diffs that led to the 3RR violation on his talk page. That should, hopefully, explain the situation. Also, I chose to block the user because he made the initial 3RR report, so I assumed he knew of the policy. Nishkid64 (talk) 21:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
A slight whisper escapes the not-quite soundproof cell where the truth is kept ...
... but sound engineers are quickly on the case.
Tegwarrior 16:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC) ;-)
Your mediation skills...[edit]
Your mediation skills are great. I originally visited the Hawaii article when I saw you get complimented, I wanted to see what you did and how you did it. At some point, I'd like to talk more about how you handle your placement within the RfC. Regardless of what others there say, I'd urge you to hold to your self-identification as a mediator, not an involved party. Sure, one side or another may try, in effect, to recruit or claim you for their side (or attack you as biased for the other side). I've see that happening subtly or bluntly w/me. But if you're interceding as an uninvolved party, stick to your guns (or the sea god equivalent)! So, I'd still suggest that you refactor your statements (and your direct interlocutors, like me) elsewhere on that RfC. But we can go into this more later, as you wish. Take care. HG | Talk 21:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm, didn't realize you're such a bohemian. LOL. Sure, the distinction is hazy, esp since a mediator can end up suggesting and implementing edits. But the distinction may be a key to your effectiveness, both in how you are perceived by others and your ability to keep an open mind to competing views. I'd guess that your friendship w/Laualoha won't be altered if you play a neutral role, as you define it, but it's up to you. (Alternatively, you can serve as an advocate for her cause, I can't read your mind.) Anyway, given what's happened, I don't feel comfortable refactoring your comments unless Laualoha chimes in here w/her ok. BTW, it's a good sign that Jere is back, because he exemplifies more clearly what it means to be an involved party. Ciao. HG | Talk 21:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have said all of the above were I not confident in your ability to set aside (compartmentalize) your sympathies when choosing a neutral role. One trick would be to focus on the dissimilarities between the Hawaiian and Palestinian "nations" (I'm glad our relationship has weathered that stormy little argument) and their situations, and to find ways to sympathize w/Jere's view. Don't get lead poisoning or too much particulate dust during your rehab breaks... Adieu. HG Talk 22:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Aloha. Thank you so much for all of your hard hard work. It has meant a lot to me, and I think it will mean a lot to the page no matter what happens. I have to be honest with you (and I feel terrible saying this after asking for your mediation help, and getting so much more than I ever could have asked for!)in saying that I don't know if I can stay on WP. Re-doing this article would take a huge investment of time on my part, and I'm willing to invest that time, but being forced to fight this hard to justify even starting the article is taking the energy that I need for real-world struggles. I am a native healing person in a community with lots of struggles(not quite the paradise people see on tv) and front-line warrior (not to mention mom & band member/organizer); I just cannot justify to all those to whom I'm responsible, spending my mana on this kind of forced theoretical discussion without being able to even get to the article itself. It also looks like there may just be too many others who do not think WP policy allows for equal representation, and while I can do some fixes to problematic pages, I just can't keep fighting them or be part of creating something that is not pono. I believe in consensus, but I can't facilitate more bias, and that's truly what I feel less-than-equal representation on this subject would be. I never thought so many people would see it the other way, I guess. I don't know, I will try to hang on, but I have to ask myself, how much is this page (that I may never get to) worth in real-world hours? I'm sure you must ask yourself the same question while you work on your house (congratulations on that, btw, sounds awesome!!). I'll stay on if I can, and I can for sure do this for a little while longer --specifically because of your inspiring peace efforts and research approach (!!!) -- but I wanted to let you know honestly where I'm at. My 3-yr old boss may have the last say. One way or another, I've learned so much...
Again, mahalo nui for everything!!!! Aloha, --Laualoha 13:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, scratch all my whining above...Sorry! Another editing angel just convinced me to stay. What was I thinking? I've just gotta take my own advice and jump in the ocean. Mahalo nui for your patience in putting up with me! Aloha, --Laualoha 22:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laualoha (talk • contribs)
Tegwarrior 05:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Dear Tiamut,
I have written a section in Music of Israel#Palestinian Arab music which contains material you might want to add to your article on Palestinian music.
In researching the subject, I came across some more interesting stuff, which doesn't really apply too much to Israeli Palestinians, but is certainly relevant to Palestinians living in the diaspora. I wrote it up at User:Ravpapa/My Drafts.
Read it over and feel free to use it as you see fit.
Regards, --Ravpapa 21:17, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
--Carabinieri 13:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Good to have you back. how are things? noticed your comment re your house and tonsilitis (at HG's page). hope you feel better. Nice to have your input again, (even if we do disagee occasionally on a few things here and there). hope things are well. --Steve, Sm8900 15:59, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Salamtak FayssalF. You are in my thoughts. Tiamut 00:01, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Just to clarify, do you actually agree with the version you changed the Israel article to, or are you just trying to make changes based on what you have seen on the talk page? -- tariqabjotu 12:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
A request for comments has been filed concerning the conduct of Shamir1 (talk · contribs). You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Shamir1. -- -- tariqabjotu 03:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
--Royalbroil 13:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Noticed you are reverting without providing an explnation. please use talk and explain why you have added this POV information and removed material which was NPOVing the article: [2] . Thanks. Zeq 08:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I su8ggest you read the talk page and recent history. I have explained what I removed (way too much unrelated info in terminilogy section) you have added charateriztion of occupied" - which is not NPOV and as for the "since 2000 section" - the material I have added is relevant and natural extension to what already mentioned there but give a broader context and NPOV. In the future should you want to revert - please explain yourself first. Zeq 08:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
se replay on article talk page. Zeq 08:48, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
PS I have also read your user page and there are parts there I find offesnsive. Please don't use your user page to sterotype other races and/or religions/ cultures or to make fun of people from such cultures. Thank you. Zeq 08:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Your user page include Racial and ethnic charteriztions that creates a very negative and hostile environment to people who view your user page. Please remove that. You can not make fun on people just because they are Jewish and/or you despise the reason they come to your town. You have no idea what releigion is a person just by hearing a recording of his voice or what makes them come to visit "your town" - together this is offensive as it realtes to a whole group (the jews from tel-Aviv). Zeq 09:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
NB: To the drive-by reader. I've responded to Zeq on his talk page. The passage in question is part of a poem I wrote called "sounds of my city". It reads:
hebrew - the voices of the jewish tourists from tel aviv getting their "authentic arab experience"
Tiamut 09:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
. If you find this offensive, I think you are being just a little oversensitive. Tiamut 09:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)hebrew - the voices of the jewish tourists from tel aviv getting their "authentic arab experience"
I expect that you will:
Zeq 09:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tiamut - do you know at what point the Arab citizens article attained it's most encyclopedic form? I ask, because it was clearly well written at one point and it could be valuable to save a snapshot of it in that condition. There may be other examples of articles that are deteriorating with time, and it would be worth saving a "best copy" of each before we forget what they were like. PRtalk 16:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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I don't know if you're familiar with this wiki, but it has a timeline of the positions he's held. http://orthodoxwiki.org/Theodosios_%28Hanna%29_of_Sebastia Also, here's an article from arabs48.com that has a timeline: http://ajras.org/?page=show_details&Id=188&CatId=&table=news I have an objection to using Archbishop in the title, but I'll discuss that later. Good work. --Fjmustak 18:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
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