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Speedy deletion nomination of Sandra Navidi[edit]

A tag has been placed on Sandra Navidi requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Talkback[edit]

Hello, Whytestone. You have new messages at Ser talk:Sphilbrick's talk page.
Message added SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:29, 17 August 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the ((Talkback)) or ((Tb)) template.[reply]

I fixed the name for you[edit]

 Done --SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:57, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Sandra Navidi for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Sandra Navidi is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sandra Navidi until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. bender235 (talk) 11:24, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Whytestone. You have new messages at Bluerasberry's talk page.
Message added 00:56, 1 April 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the ((Talkback)) or ((Tb)) template.[reply]

Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:56, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I replied again! Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:22, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
More! Blue Rasberry (talk) 11:19, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Recommendations/review[edit]

Hi Whytestone, I would normally reply at my talk page, since you left a message there (I presume you have your preferences set up to automatically watch any pages you edit). However, I have some general points to make (and links to add) that you may find helpful; so I am putting them here so that you can decide when to archive them (my talk page is set up to be archived automatically at regular intervals). My advice is intended to "get you up to speed" as a Wikipedia editor and help you better understand how Wikipedia works (not just the official policies). To a newcomer, the "anyone can edit" slogan may be a little misleading, since there a quite a few policies and guidelines. The main problem is "notability", as defined by Wikipedia policies and guideline, because it is this which mainly decides if an article belongs in Wikipedia at all and is pretty much "non-negotiable". Other things, like the Wikipedia style guide are not usually a problem, since someone else will usually correct any mistakes, especially if you are seen to be editing constructively.

Here are the requested comments on the article Sandra Navidi:

The article probably attracted the attention of new-page patrollers because it looked like a promotional article by someone with a conflict of interest. As a disinterested newbie, you will probably be "cut more slack", but special attention is given to biographies of living persons. If the article contained text copied from another Web site, it may also have attracted the attention of patrollers looking out for copyright violations, which are treated very seriously and are different from plagiarism. It is usually better to express things in one's own words. Direct quotes should normally be put in quotation marks and attribution should be provided in the text (not just in a footnote as when citing the source of information). For academic work, it is probably a good idea to get used to a very strict interpretation of quotation rules (particularly in a German context - you may have heard about various German politicians being stripped of their doctorates).

The above opinions are mine, of course, though based on my understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines and my experience of contributing here. Sorry for the wall of text, but hope it helps. --Boson (talk) 16:31, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Boson, I considered your comments carefully on a point by point basis. Your detailed explanations were helpful, and spot on. There were statements in there that were not properly sourced, or did not add any substance to the subject of the article. There were also statements that were non-neutral and promotional. I removed all of them, as well as having made the other minor adjustments that you brought to my attention. I can sense a sincere willingness to help on your part and also on the part of other experienced Wikipedia editors. I believe that you and your colleagues would not have taken the time & energy to provide the comments that you did if you felt that this subject was not deserving of a Wikipedia article.
This is certainly not the same article that it was a couple weeks ago. But I feel that the downhill slope is becoming steeper. Before I made this recent batch of changes, another editor placed a vote for deletion. This individual felt that the subject "appeared sometimes on TV". In the article, I mention specifically 12 different media outlets (there are actually many more than that). Do you think it would be helpful if I would have provided individual references to any or all of those 12? Or do you think that excessive references might be frowned upon in this case. Those references would mostly point to videos at the respective media sites.
I removed the sentence that began "She regularly attends meetings like those of the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank ..." because I had no sources for them. These venues typically don't publish a list of attendees, only the attending Heads of State of the participating countries. Yet it is very difficult for people to get in to them, and I think that the fact that she is invited regularly to these global policy meetings does elevate her notability.
If this article ultimately does get deleted, it will not have been for lack of effort. Thanks again for your time. Whytestone (talk) 15:31, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]