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The result was keep. I'm going to withdraw the nomination, as it appears as though there is enough material out there to keep it, but it likely exists in other languages. (non-admin closure) Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:24, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1582 Cagayan battles

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I received a ticket today on OTRS (#2015041610032721) where the person requested that it be deleted. I decided to do some background research on Google, and other than a few mirror sites and one YouTube video that seems to have been done after this page popped up. Furthermore, there is a lack of any real mentions online, other than brief blips when using Google, so I also have my doubts about whether this even existed or not, especially since the only citations on the article are for the top part, with the "battle" information being completely uncited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep - There are multiple references of this conflict in reliable sources:

Dennis Owen Flynn; Arturo Giráldez; James Sobredo (January 2001). European Entry Into the Pacific: Spain and the Acapulco-Manila Galleons. Ashgate. p. 141. ISBN 978-0-7546-0152-4.

Gregorio F. Zaide (1957). The Philippines since pre-Spanish times.-v. 2. The Philippines since the British invasion. Philippine Education Company. p. 288.

Contemporary Japan: A Review of Japanese Affairs. Foreign affairs association of Japan. 1942. p. 425.

Therefore this is not a hoax. There are surely more sources off line that give significant coverage to the subject of this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- I can't see any reason to think this is unsupported by sources, but they are likely to be in Spanish or Japanese, and probably not online. "Not finding anything on Google" is not a reason for deletion! Imaginatorium (talk) 11:01, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious keep unless there is an appropriate merge target. It is a pity that RightCowLeftCoast dod not add his discoveries to the article. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:45, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, those are only snippet views, and don't have access to the books, to see how much coverage are in those books on the subject of this AfD. If I had preview views, I might add them, but at this point I do not unfortunately.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:47, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- The battle details are made-up and do not match e.g. Robert J. Antony (2010). Elusive Pirates, Pervasive Smugglers: Violence and Clandestine Trade in the Greater China Seas. Hong Kong University Press. p. 82-83.. According to the book Carrion intimidated the pirate leader and the pirates left without a fight.

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