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The result was keep. Sandstein 07:39, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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After removing a couple of claims which have failed verification the article no longer indicates notability. Launchballer 10:44, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 14:02, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 14:02, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 14:02, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment: As a long-time ghost producer Mr. Wallbridge is probably responsible for some notable dance tracks... there's articles here from Billboard [1] and DJ Mag [2] about his involvement in ghost production but it means we'll never know what those songs were, and never have any RS to prove his role in them. None of his own records have ever charted, so it's likely that this article will be deleted due to lack of credible sources. This BBC clip [3] is only 20 seconds long and tells you nothing more than what's in the paragraph of text alongside it. Otherwise there are various EDM websites like YourEDM [4] and EDM Sauce [5], and I don't think we've ever really established whether these pass RS or not.

If Mr. Wallbridge's article gets deleted, the article for his album The Inner Me should be deleted as well. Richard3120 (talk) 16:50, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think "probably" is the most important word in that sentence. Wikipedia requires that all material be attributable to reliable, published sources. If he has genuinely produced that many hit records, then having another should be a Wikipedia article for old rope, but for now it's too soon.--Launchballer 17:06, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep, Wallbridge does have some sources mentioning him in their pages, at Dancing Astronaut, YourEDM, and Billboard which I would generally cite as reliable. Page looks very sparse at the moment and would require a complete rewrite if it were to stay in the mainspace. Perhaps move it to draft for someone to rewrite it? (Note to the editor above, EDM Sauce is not a reliable source since it's a blog) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ANode (talk • contribs) 14:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clearing up the status of EDM Sauce, I appreciate it. The problem I see is that although the sources mentioned above are reliable, the content is weak or primary source material. The Billboard, DJ Mag and YourEDM sources are essentially the same thing, and are reporting on a video made by Mr. Wallbridge in which he talks about how he supposedly produced ten no. 1 records on Beatport and why he isn't going to be a ghost producer any more – that's a primary source, and there is no means of verifying his claims in the video. The Dancing Astronaut hits are mostly passing mentions of the "Ashley Wallbridge has a new record out" type. My concern is that even if the article is rewritten, we don't really have anything much more than "Ashley Wallbridge is a DJ and producer who has made lots of records, some of them in collaboration with other producers, and none of them have ever charted on any national chart. He also claims to have made ten records that made number one on a non-notable chart, although his claims cannot be verified." Richard3120 (talk) 16:03, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

True, I agree that we cannot get very far with the content available as of now. Recently, I wrote a section here on Gareth Emery's page that discussed about CVNT5, a satire project that Wallbridge and him decided to do together in 2016. It's not much, but still counts as content for the Wallbridge page. Is it notable enough to save this page? aNode (discuss) 05:21, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Apart from the other sources, he has been a featured artist in DJ Mag (the reliable and authoritative source on DJs, I believe) at least twice[6][7], plus once in their Japanese edition[8]. Fram (talk) 14:24, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This is a close call, but I do think that the sources Richard3120 provided, as well as the information that Fram provided, together are enough to meet the notability guidelines. We do need to add these sources to the article, though, as the current sourcing is rather poor.--SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 01:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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