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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brandon Saad

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Disputed prod. Non-notable junior hockey player who has yet to play professionally. Fails to meet WP:NSPORTS. Can be recreated when/if he plays professionally or otherwise achieves notability. DJSasso (talk) 22:34, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per norm--Mo Rock...Monstrous (talk) 23:07, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Don't think being on the the All-Star team of the 2009 World U-17 Hockey Challenge would suffice, as that is rather minor tournament. Can be re-created once subject meets NHOCKEY. Patken4 (talk) 01:20, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Undrafted 17 year old who fails to meet WP:NHOCKEY. Ravenswing 13:24, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Meets requirement of WP:NHOCKEY in that he has "Achieved preeminent honours in a major junior league". Saad was named Rookie of the Year and was a First Team All-Star in the NAHL, which is a Junior A major junior ice hockey league. He was also the feature of this Hockey News article which is a reliable and independent source and may be enough, taken with all of the hockey sites that mention Saad, to justify inclusion under WP:GNP. Moorsmur (talk) 03:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The NAHL isn't a major junior hockey league. The major junior hockey leagues are the Ontario Hockey League, Western Hockey League, and the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. The NAHL is a Tier 2 Junior A hockey league with is two levels below the major junior leagues. -DJSasso (talk) 14:34, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, one level below. The American system doesn't have a major-junior rank. The USHL is Tier-I Jr A, so their equivalent to the CHL, while the NAHL is Tier-II, or their equivalent of the CJHL in Canada. Since it is not a perfect analogue, I'm not inclined to !vote delete on this, especially since I have a good feeling that it would be re-created before the 2011 Draft if he keeps his ranking in the top ten. Reso lute 14:43, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Right but the USHL is not on the level of the major junior leagues which is why we specifically say major junior in the requirements and not not top junior league. -DJSasso (talk) 14:53, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails notability for the time being. Jmlk 1 7 08:27, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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